Roberto Mancini

[K.I.]

As i Said In the Villarreal thread,before we should blame mancio,the players are to blame,and his words today are golden.

 

[Handoyo]

Mancini get 4 M€/year. Other coaches in Italy:

Capello 3,5M€/year
Ancelotti 2,8M€/year
Prandelli 1,3M€/year
Spalletti 1,2M€/year.

How reliable is the source, Jake?

Certainly worrying, though not surprising...

 

[topdog]

He should get at least one more year to rebiuld the side and challenge. We need to get rid off our old, useless players like Materazzi and Figo and sign young, skilfull, strong, energetic players. Mancini is our most succesful coach in 10+ years, which isn't saying a lot as we've not won much recently but i reckon if he gest the right players and if we get some luck at last we can challenge next year. 5 years ago we would be challenging for the title with our points tally. It's not our fault that Juve have been exceptional.

 

[Hammoudi]

As i Said In the Villarreal thread,before we should blame mancio,the players are to blame,and his words today are golden.

Oh come on! Do you blame the players for having no game plan? Do you blame the players for not making correct subs? Do you blame the players for leaving Solari outside?

Thanks for that Jake, this is a travesty indeed :frustrat:

 

[NimAraya]

He should get at least one more year to rebiuld the side and challenge. We need to get rid off our old, useless players like Materazzi and Figo and sign young, skilfull, strong, energetic players. Mancini is our most succesful coach in 10+ years, which isn't saying a lot as we've not won much recently but i reckon if he gest the right players and if we get some luck at last we can challenge next year. 5 years ago we would be challenging for the title with our points tally. It's not our fault that Juve have been exceptional.

Inter always was famous for following biggest stars all around the world but in the last 10+ years Inter never had a perfect squad like this. We might had some stars in our team in past but other players were really average.

But look at what Mancini has!! It's perfect in every post! Inter had the best squad in this last 2 years, specially due to the Fachetti presidency that gave more ballance and intelligence to our transfer market!

 

[topdog]

We don't have a perfect squad. You call Materazzi and Cordoba ideal? A over the hill Figo ideal? Signing famous players when they are old is not ideal. If we wanted Figo we should have gone for him in 2000 when he was at his peak. Agianst Vilarreal he could barely stay on his feet or pass the ball. Arense Wenger 's Arsenal team is they way we should think about going.

 

[Jake]

How reliable is the source, Jake?

Certainly worrying, though not surprising...

Well I think the magazine Calcio 2000 is quite reliable. They listed our players salaries too.

 

[NimAraya]

We don't have a perfect squad. You call Materazzi and Cordoba ideal? A over the hill Figo ideal? Signing famous players when they are old is not ideal. If we wanted Figo we should have gone for him in 2000 when he was at his peak. Agianst Vilarreal he could barely stay on his feet or pass the ball. Arense Wenger 's Arsenal team is they way we should think about going.

Ask it from The Coach why he did play him after 2 weeks on sidelines! Seems this debacle removed the fact that he was our best midfielder this season and the best player alongside Javier Zanetti the whole season!

 

[CafeCordoba]

Well I think the magazine Calcio 2000 is quite reliable. They listed our players salaries too.

Can you post them to some other topic?

 

[Durai]

Mancini get 4 M€/year. Other coaches in Italy:

Capello 3,5M€/year
Ancelotti 2,8M€/year
Prandelli 1,3M€/year
Spalletti 1,2M€/year.

how the hell can that prick earn more than capello.

 

[Marcello]

Jake where you get that info from mate?

 

[Hammoudi]

Well I think the magazine Calcio 2000 is quite reliable. They listed our players salaries too.

Voila!

 

[K.I.]

Oh come on! Do you blame the players for having no game plan? Do you blame the players for not making correct subs? Do you blame the players for leaving Solari outside?

Thanks for that Jake, this is a travesty indeed :frustrat:

no i dont blame the players for leaving solari out,but i do blame some players for playing a disastorous game and playing with no heart and not even trying,mancio made some mistakes but even with his mistakes,we should have easily won the match.

 

[1919]

how the hell can that prick earn more than capello.

coz Juve got Moggi to c to the contracts, and we got Branca.

if u hv inefficient people, it will show.

 

[Marcello]

Voila!

thanks

 

[Code]

Sacking Mancini would be nothing but a token gesture of anger. I agree to a point with Moratti that the players let the coach down. Yes, I agree Solari should have replaced Figo, and Yes, Pizarro should have replaced Veron, and Yes, bringing on mihjilovic was a bad call (though i could see the logic to a point). I would say 60% players fault, 40% Mancini's.

Thing is, all coaches have favourites, it's just something you have to accept, and if we sack Mancini, he won't get the chance to learn some very valuable lessons, or he'll learn and use it to benefit another club, same as what's happened over and over again in our history. how about we change things by changing things by not changing things!. what I mean is, lets change our fortunes by changing the way we do things, IE keeping some stability and not booting the Manager out every time he makes a mistake (not changing things) Christ that sounded like Donald Rumsfeldt!! . I knew what I meant though!

Let Manicini learn from his mistakes, gain a bit of brutality towards dropping players if they let him down (it's his job on the line after all) and see how we get on next season.

Changing managers would just continue the depressing neverending cycle of anticipation and depression, Maybe Mancini isn't the one to give us glory, but he at least deserves the chance to make amends, we're only harming ourselves by sacking him and doing the same next season, and the season after ad infinitum...

 

[Harmonyofdissonance]

Mancini doesnt get 4 mln a year, thats shit... see here

http://sport.virgilio.it/it/calcio/calciomercato/all_paperoni.html

 

[Durai]

he does get 4 million that's more than capello or ancelloti

 

[J zanetti]

Sacking Mancini would be nothing but a token gesture of anger. I agree to a point with Moratti that the players let the coach down. Yes, I agree Solari should have replaced Figo, and Yes, Pizarro should have replaced Veron, and Yes, bringing on mihjilovic was a bad call (though i could see the logic to a point). I would say 60% players fault, 40% Mancini's.

Thing is, all coaches have favourites, it's just something you have to accept, and if we sack Mancini, he won't get the chance to learn some very valuable lessons, or he'll learn and use it to benefit another club, same as what's happened over and over again in our history. how about we change things by changing things by not changing things!. what I mean is, lets change our fortunes by changing the way we do things, IE keeping some stability and not booting the Manager out every time he makes a mistake (not changing things) Christ that sounded like Donald Rumsfeldt!! . I knew what I meant though!

Let Manicini learn from his mistakes, gain a bit of brutality towards dropping players if they let him down (it's his job on the line after all) and see how we get on next season.

Changing managers would just continue the depressing neverending cycle of anticipation and depression, Maybe Mancini isn't the one to give us glory, but he at least deserves the chance to make amends, we're only harming ourselves by sacking him and doing the same next season, and the season after ad infinitum...

Good post – I fully agree with you. However I cant and don’t want to see him being our coach if he fails to bring in either of the big 2 trophies next season. I believe three full season when you are given all the players you wish (inc. your friends to keep you happy and warm at night) should be enough to prove a point. If next season he fails again, then he should be shown the exit door. For noe, I agree that there is no point in doing something drastically again. Although he was to blame for our QF exit, yet I believe with the right mentality and grit those players on the pitch should have swept a side like Villareal. No disrespect to them, but you just cant lose against a team currently 8th in LaLiga.

Also one last thing regarding your post is that of course all coaches have their favourite players. However Mancini’s buddies haven’t really provided the quality you would expect. Veron have been just about decent, not a force really. Deki has had MAJOR dips in form lasting 2-3months. Its only in recent months that he has found some sort of consistency and God knows how long that is going to last. Miha has rarely featured, and we all know how good / bad he is. As for Cesar, the less I say the better I think it is

 

[Harmonyofdissonance]

I cant see him in the list...