Roma - Inter (29 Sep 07)

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i absolutely agree, unfortunately it seems mancini has the same brain capacity as lenny and carl above.


Someone on here has a good quote in their signature. It reads "Fighting on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even if you win, your still retarded"

You disagree with what I think, thats fine, but if you think I'm going to be drawn into a slanging match with some cumstain from TWGF, you've got another thing coming. But, by all means, keep it up. It makes you seem tough and important...
 

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Inter will be dead, if Mancini continues to use the flat four in the midfield. Totti must be marked better what Dacourt can do. And after that there still would be just Cambiasso roaming everywhere with Perrotta, De Rossi and Pizarro. (Aquilani is injured). Inter definitely needs the 3-back midfield. Too bad Vieira can't make it to this game.
 

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lol
seeing how much trouble trezeguet and iaquinta gave mexes and juan, i say we start with the big boys up front, ibra and adri....

Well there's a ****ing surprise.:howler: God, you're so biased it's not even funny.
 
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If we dont concede early our chances will be great as they usually are the more the game goes on. Usually they get tired and we get stronger and wear them out physically.


Excellent point, Roma has been conceding a lot later in the game, and since we are superior physically we must drag the match for about an hour, after all, even if we draw it's still a more positive result for us!

Roma played with 1 player on the left flank against Viola, who went up and down all by himself, I don't know if they play like that all the time, if they do we must certainly play 4-4-2. too bad Maicon is missing...

I would go for Cesar and Stankovic on the flanks, we can create huge problems for them on the wings, and would opt for Chivu as LB.

-------------Julio Cesar----------

Zanetti--Cordoba---Samuel---Chivu

Stan----Dacourt---Cambiasso--Cesar

-------Adriano--Ibrahimovic------


Adriano as someone already said before me should start and run all over the place, Roma will get exhausted running after him and Ibrahimovic, then Crespo can go in, in the last 30 minutes along with Figo, and snatch the winning goal...

Forza Ragazzi...
 

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Well there's a ****ing surprise.:howler: God, you're so biased it's not even funny.

biased??

you r a fvckin idiot

did you see how tired juan was after having to run down and deal with iaquinta's size all day long??
did you see how mexes was struggling to cope with trezeguet?

lol

whatever
football is about proper tactics...which is why mancini has been so incompetent...
 

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biased??

you r a fvckin idiot

did you see how tired juan was after having to run down and deal with iaquinta's size all day long??
did you see how mexes was struggling to cope with trezeguet?

lol

whatever
football is about proper tactics...which is why mancini has been so incompetent...


To you all of our forwards are shit except Adriano. Cruz is garbage, Crespo is poor, Suazo should go to Serie B, and you give Ibra 3/10 rating when virtually everyone else give MOM. Bout a month ago you said you didn't think Adri deserved to start but to atleast be in the squad, you added that he had to prove himself to be a starter. So obviously now that he has had some avarage-decent performances without scoring he has proven himself. :rolleyes: Let's just forget all that Crespo and Cruz did for us last season, because Adrinao has learned to dribble the ball again.

We all have our biases but you're ****ing ridiculous.

And, btw. I wouldn't be surprised if Mancini starts Adriano, because he changes the starting lineup as often as I change my underwear.
 

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-----Ibrahimovic-Crespo----------
--------------Figo---------------
---Cesar-Cambiasso-Stankovic----
-Maxwell-Samuel-Cordoba-Zanetti-
-------------J.Cesar--------------
 

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lol

do you guys watch inter play or just watch ibra??

knowing how roma plays with their midfield, there's no way in hell we can start figo and stankovic as wide players....both have been piss poor on covering and following their mark since the season has begun....

figo cannot start unless we're playing the diamond midfield
if stan has to play, he has to play in a restricted role in centre/defensive mid where he doesn't have much running to do..if he plays wide, he usually runs out of position and causes our wing backs to be exposed..

cesar has to start...he compliments maxwell in both attack and defense..without maicon, our main width has to come from that side..

and please, stop making reference to the game against roma LAST YEAR.....against a crappy sampdoria team today, crespo looked below par...suazo has been shit because he is only looking to play for himself and trying to score...cruz......don't even bother...

seeing how much trouble trezeguet and iaquinta gave mexes and juan, i say we start with the big boys up front, ibra and adri....even if they don't score, they can physically wear down the roma defense....
roma usualy tires at the end of games too, so then, we can bring on suazo and hope he gets lucky with a quick run...

tbh, the best way to play roma is to play hard defense in the first half, then bring on you counter-attack/fast weapons in the second...
bring on stan and suazo around 65min....stan can launch those long balls from the back and suazo can run on to it...

my 2cents

If your idea with the big boys is to test roma in the air from crosses and set pieces then crespo should start. Adri even in his best form didn't really score much from headers and the same goes for Ibra.

Our best header is crespo so if you want to use an aerial attack Crespo must start.

I would start with crespo - ibra and then use adri in the second half.
 

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yea crespo ibraand figo should all start, we are always great when they play. Actually when figo and ibra are on the pitch we have great performances as mentioned before by someone. Figo and ibra can create some havoc, along with cesar who has been quite creative this season, and consistent at that. With them three plus some good performances, we mite just be ok for this match. It is away so even a draw would be splendid, but we cant settle for that.

A stankovic blunder of a shot would be nice to open the scoring to this game. Who on their defense can shut down an in form ibra, "that wants to score" haha, who can stop figos set pieces (umm no one cuz their set pieces ;) ), and in the air we have the advantage, due to the fact that crespo is a better finisher then anyone else, and he strives in games against roma.

We have the recipe for a great meal, now whether it tastes good we will have to wait and see.
 

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-----------Ibra--Adriano------------
----Pele------------------Cesar-----
----------Cuchu-----JZ--------------
-Maxwell-Cafe--Samuel-Burdisso-
------------------JC------------------

I would play Chivu but I don't think his fitness level is high enough yet, just returning today from injury.

Adriano for Crespo around mid game and Figo for pele and switch the formation to something like: 4-3-1-2

-----------Ibra---Crespo------------
----------------Figo------------------
--------------------------------------
----------Cuchu----Cesar-----------
------------------JZ------------------
-Maxwell------------------Burdisso-
-----------Cafe----Samuel----------
------------------JC------------------

JZ, Cambi and Cesar hold down the midfield (perhaps dacourt for cesar early as well) while figo is AM and maxwell/burdisso make strong runs up the wings.

Adriano tires the D with some strong combinations with ibra and cesar/pele, while the defense locks down the midfield. Around half time we bring on crespo if we can't find the net, along with figo for some creativity. Once we get a good lead we play conservatively with mainly just ibra/crespo/figo attacking while the rest of the team zones the midfield to death.

Roma 1-2 Inter
Cesar-Figo-De Rossi
 

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Let's just forget all that Crespo and Cruz did for us last season, because Adrinao has learned to dribble the ball again.

this here is exactly why you are a retard...
who the fvck cares about last season???
we are talking about performances RIGHT NOW!

right now, cruz has been shit...are you seriously denying that
right now, suazo has been shit....are you seriously denying that
right now, crespo has been average and adri just a little better because he gets more involved in plays..

wtf is wrong this this assessment??
at least adriano can dribble,
can't say the same for suazo who only knows how to dive on the ground every time a defender is around him..
can't say the same for cruz, who's first touch right now is absolutely horrendous..


unlike everybody else who just bandwagons when a player is good, i call it like i see it....when ibra plays shit, i say ibra plays shit....simple as...
just because he plays damn good 8/10 matches doesn't mean you aren't allowed to say he played shit in the other 2...

i said ibra was 3/10 in champions league because he PLAYED SHITE...even mancini afterwards said he was very disappointed..

suazo has been shit yet you wanna say things like "the midfield ain't helping" and "give him a chance"...well if it ain't helping suazo, it ain't helping ibra, crespo or adriano either and they all are playing miles better than him...

and when i say use the big guys, its not about heading....it's about big guys who use their bodies to create havoc....crespo is tall but hardly uses his body to the same effect as ibra/adri...
 

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Yeah lets start Adriano. ATLEAST HE CAN DRIBBLE!!! hahahaha
 

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this here is exactly why you are a retard...
who the fvck cares about last season???
we are talking about performances RIGHT NOW!

Last season needs to be taken into account. To cut a player that's been performing for a long time, player A would have to be playing very poor and player B would have to be doing great for a certain period of time. You don't cut a player that has performed week in, week out because his competition has done ok the last two matches. Surely even you must understand this basic coaching principle. If Adriano had scored two goals and one assist in the last two matches then you would have a somewhat weak case anyway. Because it doesn't work that way. Players that have performed for a long time has credit, that allows them to be bad to decent for a handfull of matches before being put on the bench. You don't start someone just because he comes on in the sixteith minute and scores a goal.

right now, cruz has been shit...are you seriously denying that
right now, suazo has been shit....are you seriously denying that
right now, crespo has been average and adri just a little better because he gets more involved in plays..

Cruz has done poor, no goals no assist but he's only played 80 minutes or so. He has had one chance to score, it was a sitter and he balooned it.

Suazo has done ok. He had a good match vs Empoli, where he was involved a lot and had many good dribbles and efforts on goal. He's only played for 114 minutes. 30 of which was when being down to ten men, and ten when being 3-0 up also without any support from midfield. He hasn't had a single proper chance to score fed to him, the chances he did have were halfchances or chances he created by himself from dribbling, or taking longshots. Another thing that should be taken into account is the preseason where he was our topscorer, and where he showed his individual class vs Napoli and Manchester.

Crespo has scored one goal and given one assist in 171 minutes. He's also had some nice dribbles, and passes. I don't remember if he's missed any clear chances. I don't think so.

Adriano has played for 193 minutes, no goals and no assists. He's had some dribbles, some nice movements and passes and some decent attempts on goal. The forward who has been the most involved in play out of the four, even though there isn't a huge difference between Suazo's and Adriano's performances. He's also the player who has had by far the best and the most chances to score and has failed to do so.

Is that a fair assessment?


wtf is wrong this this assessment??
at least adriano can dribble,
can't say the same for suazo who only knows how to dive on the ground every time a defender is around him..
can't say the same for cruz, who's first touch right now is absolutely horrendous..

Dive to ground. Don't be stupid he get's tripped up because he's so fast. That has earned us lots of freekicks and yellow cards.

i said ibra was 3/10 in champions league because he PLAYED SHITE...even mancini afterwards said he was very disappointed..

I agree that Ibra was very poor in the CL. Mancini also said it's not fair to blame it all on one player, because he can't do everything by himself or something along those lines. But this isn't the match I'm referring to.

I'm talking about the first match Vs Udinese, where Ibra was voted MOM by Gazzetta, by most people on this forum, by the Interfans forum and so on. You said something like -- Wooow, one assist big deal! He kept losing the ball all the time. 3/10.

That's a weird thing to say about a player who was behind damn near every chance we had. Unless infact you give most players even lower ratings then that, which you didn't. And you will say the same, I'm sure, next time Ibra doesn't score.

suazo has been shit yet you wanna say things like "the midfield ain't helping" and "give him a chance"...well if it ain't helping suazo, it ain't helping ibra, crespo or adriano either and they all are playing miles better than him...

No, they're not. There's not much difference between Adriano, Cruz and Suazo. The difference is minimal, where Adriano has been the best, then Suazo and last Cruz.

and when i say use the big guys, its not about heading....it's about big guys who use their bodies to create havoc....crespo is tall but hardly uses his body to the same effect as ibra/adri...

Yeah I got that. I'd rather use Crespo who's a proven goalscorer against them, who has a certain credit with us for what he did last season, and who is our most in form striker after Ibra. But I wouldn't mind seeing Suazo start, not only because his speed would hurt Roma's defence, but also for the fact that he's one of the best overall players we have, and he's being underappreciated at the moment.
 

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when ibra plays shit, i say ibra plays shit....simple as...
just because he plays damn good 8/10 matches doesn't mean you aren't allowed to say he played shit in the other 2...

Please do the same with Adriano.

Adriano was only able to dribble last match, and that was one out of 2 full years of matches. During last season, he couldn't even trap the ball.

If we are to forget about what players did in the past, Adriano would have lost his place a year ago. The performance he showed 3 years ago is whats keeping him here, and the performance Crespo showed last year is what makes people choose him over Adriano.

You cry out to others to be fair, but you seem to be biased more than any others.
 

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I'm hoping for a better result this time against Roma, and with a good coaching job, I think we can do it.
 

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The key is the how is gonna be concetrated the team, if are concetrated all match we can win but is not..............
 

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As usual we have beaten Roma before we can do it again.

(1) Don't give them space in the midfield. Mark closely in the middle, but loosley on their "" forward "" players.

(2) Mexes is a liability and can be exposed at will.

(3) We can exploit them on set-peices. If needed proving any further, they are short and not physically strong. Iaquinta highlighted this point even MORE. Corners free kicks are ours to waste. We must punish them if any chances arise.

If we play correctly we can easily destroy them, and they bleed goals. While or average is one a game, but Romas speed and trickery have undone or strength and solidness, with concentraion I think we'll win.
 

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Zanetti---Samuel----Burdisso----Maxwell
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----------------Deki-------------
-----------Ibra-----Crespo--------

Adriano for Crespo 2nd half and Figo for Deki...
 

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Taddei and Cassetti will miss the match due to injuries. Aquilliani and Mexes are also injured, but they could recover before the match.
 

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But if we were to depend on set pieces Figo better play because he's the only player who can take a decent freekick. Stankovic's freekicks put me to tears...
 
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