Stefan de Vrij

[Devious]

A multiple times I thought he's Skriniar with the flawless interceptions, really good game.

They teach each other and learn from their strengths, we're so lucky to have them, just need Cambiasso to complete them.

 

[Ed.]

Just saw his lady's picture on inter.it

Damn.. he has a really good taste.

 

[brehme1989]

It was his fuck up that led to Chievo's goal. Aside from a bad parallel pass at the back, it was his only mistake. Just shows how these things can be costly at the back. Can't complain about his overall performance.

 

[surripere]

Just saw his lady's picture on inter.it

Damn.. he has a really good taste.

Or he can just afford it.

 

[wera]

Was pretty good the whole game except for the collective fuck up.

 

[Guz]

That kind of shit can happen even to the best defenders. The real problem is our chronic inability to put games away. No matter how poor the opponents are, we always find a way to keep them in the game until the last 20 minutes, when we usually sit back, letting them take over the midfield, and start defending with ten men in our last third. And that's what makes the chances of a fuck-up skyrocket.

 

[Ed.]

It was his fuck up that led to Chievo's goal. Aside from a bad parallel pass at the back, it was his only mistake. Just shows how these things can be costly at the back. Can't complain about his overall performance.

Skriniar kept Pellisier onside also though. It was a collective mistake from the defence system.

 

[brehme1989]

Skriniar kept Pellisier onside also though. It was a collective mistake from the defence system.

Well, de Vrij was supposed to be marking Pelissier and he tried to reach a header that was destined for a player 2 meters ahead of him, a player that Skriniar was responsible for, leaving Pelissier exposed to our defence. You can blame lack of communication, but not Skriniar individually. Skriniar failing to reach that header wouldn't be the end of the world if de Vrij was on Pelissier at the time. D'Ambrosio could also be blamed for that move but it wasn't his fault either.

 

[Ed.]

Well, de Vrij was supposed to be marking Pelissier and he tried to reach a header that was destined for a player 2 meters ahead of him, a player that Skriniar was responsible for, leaving Pelissier exposed to our defence. You can blame lack of communication, but not Skriniar individually. Skriniar failing to reach that header wouldn't be the end of the world if de Vrij was on Pelissier at the time. D'Ambrosio could also be blamed for that move but it wasn't his fault either.

If you have read my post properly. I said it is a mistake of the defence system rather than individual mistakes. I didnt blame anyone.

I could have blame Brozovic as well for throwing away the corner in a way worst thab amateur player. But their goal came from a collective mistake of our players rather than an individual one.

 

[brehme1989]

Which is what I disagree with

It was almost exclusively a de Vrij error. You also singled out Skriniar's "mistake", which wasn't really a mistake. It was a standard situation and de Vrij made it happen for Chievo. Shit happens, he'll get over it and perform better next time.

 

[Ed.]

Pellisier was behind DDA when the header was done. Skriniar was the last man. Where was the marker of the header? He was left alone. Yeah ofc its only de vrij fault.

 

[Wobblz]

I wasn't able to watch the rest of the game as I had some friends that are MU fans and we switched to their game against Cardiff, but watching Chievo's goal I can also put some blame on Handa's half-assed attempt to rush out and clear the ball, which not only he didn't manage to pull-off but he opened the goal completely. Anyway, this one goes to Spalletti also, you just can't let Chievo outplay you in the 2nd half and also he should've tried to kill the game with a second goal early on. Pressure is mounting.

 

[brehme1989]

Pellisier was behind DDA when the header was done. Skriniar was the last man. Where was the marker of the header? He was left alone. Yeah ofc its only de vrij fault.

I don't get why you people keep doing this and then call me stubborn

Long ball incoming:

de Vrij chases the ball, Skriniar gets confused, D'Ambrosio who was standing 2 meters away from Pelissier (who was on a sprint) is now forced to make a sprint run on someone who's already accelerating (leaving the age nonsense aside, if he wasn't capable of it, he wouldn't pull it off, it's not like he was running in slow mo) and was someone else's responsibility, so he's lagging in terms of distance and acceleration.

Same applies with Skriniar who doesn't have time to react as he initially set his foot to go for a header but instantly made a backwards step as he saw de Vrij jump for it. By the time the ball came towards his direction it was already under Pelissier's control and at least 3 meters away from him, while the sprinting striker just needed a finish.

And here is the moment right after the long ball was hit by Chievo. Notice that de Vrij is pretty much man marking Pelissier and then decided to become a faulty patriot missile.

So you can see that Pelissier who was happily free from de Vrij started sprinting when he noticed that hiccup and took full advantage of it.


And here's the video:
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P.S: It took a much longer than I anticipated until someone ridiculously blamed Handanovic for the goal

 

[Universe]

I don't give a fuck about the goal or whose fault it was or wasn't. I'm perfectly happy to blame Berni for all I give a shit.

A gripe I have with de Vrij is that he plays backwards to Handanovic way too often.

As we all know, Handanovic (who deserves immense credit for improving dramatically in this regard) is still, pretty unimpressive at playing out from the back. He's gone from perhaps the single worst goalkeeper I've ever seen with his feet, to being "just a bit crap". An improvement from 1/10 to 4/10 is big, but 4/10 is still pretty shit.

Essentially, playing to Handanovic is a risk. Most of the time we end up putting unnecessary pressure on ourselves while stretched, and turn the ball over with a long punt to the halfway line. de Vrij very often will pass backwards to Hnadanovic when he has other options still available. This bothers me tremendously. He must work on his ball retention and the team too, must do better to make themselves available for passes from our CB's.

 

[brehme1989]

Too strict on Handanovic with his feet. We rarely face trouble when he has the ball and he's usually very smart with the distribution. He does look very awkward with the ball though which creates this perceived flaw about his ball playing ability, but that's about it. Obviously it's not one of his strengths, but it's a non-issue. I'm more comfortable with him throwing the ball towards the attack, which for some reason seems like a superstrength skill when it's done by Handa as it covers 2/3 of the pitch. We need more of that

The problem is de Vrij is running out of options to give the ball to, not that it's back to Handa. We sometimes attack on the counter and 3 seconds later the ball ends up between Skriniar and de Vrij in the middle of the pitch.

Our midfield is barely EL material (it will show when we display half of it in the actual tournament) while our attack and defence is of CL level. There's a huge gap, literally and figuratively.

 

[M.Adnan]

Our midfield is barely EL material (...) while our attack and defence is of CL level. There's a huge gap, literally and figuratively.

Hasn't it always been like this with Inter (excluding Mourinho)? It's like a part of the club's philosophy.

 

[brehme1989]

Hasn't it always been like this with Inter (excluding Mourinho)? It's like a part of the club's philosophy.

We used to have some great midfielders but lacked the ability to make them tick. Di Biagio-Seedorf-Jugovic for example should have been elite but we managed to bottle that season because Ronaldo was injured and Vieri missed half the games. We did have lots of average players that started for us like Cauet, Cristiano Zanetti, Farinos, Emre, Dacourt, Muntari etc, while our managers always used players out of position for no reason. Veron starting as right midfielder comes to mind

 

[dax21]

I really find it unfair to throw Emre in with Farinos and Dacourt. It's the injuries that ruined him. He was a fairly reliable player for us and definitely at least a mediocre midfielder compared to atrocious failures listed above.

 

[chipschups]

I will stick blame on Spalletti on this games.

 

[rfU]

We did have lots of average players that started for us like Cauet, Cristiano Zanetti, Farinos, Emre, Dacourt, Muntari etc

Zanetti and Emre were injury prone not average.