Tottenham - Inter (7 Mar 13)

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No, but the point is with Chivu at LB getting beaten easily, you have JJ who is MUCH more dominant in the air at CB. We accept that we're going to concede ground on the wings - its fine. What isnt fine is JJ making too easy for Lennon to get space, and Chivu not being dominant enough in the air to stop the balls in.

Swap them around, Chivu will be tighter to the defensive line and keep higher pressure on Lennon as he tries to cross - giving him less space to accelerate. JJ will be dominant in the air, so when we have less crosses, JJ will win more of them.

If Lennon had already beat Chivu, it's not like he would always send high cross. They are not stupid. He could go to byline or cut into penalty box. When he was already close to goal, he can send high and low cross, both could go to their striker or midfielders.

Just simulate 2nd goal of tottenham and imagine if it was Lennon beat Chivu instead of Juan left his space. The result would be the same, wouldn't it ? It was not about tactical mistake, it is about we had Chivu facing Tottenham. He would be our weakspot wherever he played.
 

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JJ was beaten quite a few times already, and Lennon was still crossing. Whether its JJ or Chivu doesnt matter - but Chivu would have been closer to our goal and given him less space. If you're not as quick as Lennon and you lose him 40 yards out from goal, he's going to have 5 yards of space to do anything he wants.


It might not have been the difference on the second goal, but on the third goal we probably wouldnt have conceded it.
 

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Nice theorycrafting.


I will send your posts to inter.it and recommend you as Stram or Branca replacement. Dont forget me if you manage to bring Inter as sextuple winner for 10 consecutive years.
 

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defeat isnt unexpected
the manner is

Nah, a lot of people here expected a trashing and we got one. Now everyone is shocked all of a sudden. Come on.

Thing is Tottenham just highlighted our weak sides better than most of Italian sides we're playing against. It's the same horrible performance EVERY MATCH.
 

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Nah, a lot of people here expected a trashing and we got one. Now everyone is shocked all of a sudden. Come on.

Thing is Tottenham just highlighted our weak sides better than most of Italian sides we're playing against. It's the same horrible performance EVERY MATCH.

Totally agree with the above.
 

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What shocked me was just the lack of interest in playing the game. I'd accept this loss if Tottenham were the better side in a hard-fought game, but that wasn't the case. The played an okay game and we gave them zero resistance. It's not a matter of quality, it's a matter of effort.

We do this often, which is the most upsetting part.
 

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UAU,yet inter keeps getting worse and worse,fucking moratti,thank you for ruining my super team that mourinho built!
 

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The fact is that every time we meet a team which can hold/pass the ball or play at a higher tempo, we get totally fucked. We were extremely lucky both times against Milan to not be thrashed, same against Juve who could have easily scored 3-4 in first half. Roma, Fiorentina, Catania all raped us.

Its no wonder actually that we start off games extremely poor since we just can't cope up with those teams. Its only in the 2nd half when the opposition tires off a bit, and Strama is able to see where we are getting fucked, that we try to come back in the game.
 

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Maybe i am out of topic but i wanted to give my opinion regarding this game that we shamefully lost.
I am an Inter fan since 1999 and i watch every game they play and re-watch and look to details.
however, according to me, the main reason we lost is Stramacioni's decisions. He made at least 4 fundamental mistakes that even an amateur coach wouldn't do them. First mistake is you cant play Chivu and Juan at the same time. Second, you cant play Cambiasso in such game because Tottenham are a fast team and their game is based on physical strength and speed, which Cambiasso lacks both of them. Third mistake is playing Perreira on left winger? no comment. Fourth mistake was to put Cassano as a lone striker, i just don't know what Strama thought at that moment, even a small boy is able to know that he cant and shouldn't play on that position. These are not the only mistakes he made but the majors one according to my point of view. Thank you :)
 

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i understand the logic, but we got raped very easily for quite a long time. he should have swapped them. chivu wouldnt roam as far forward, and JJ is aerially dominant.

The problem is JJ, as a CB, is used to marking the man. As a full back, you have to mark "the space", and the runs. JJ pushed up 10-20 yards ahead of the defensive line to mark the man - and we played high enough that lennon had space to use his pace to beat JJ, and then he had space to cross and stuff at will.

Agree with all of this, Juan made that mistake throughout ALL first half! Strama shouldn't had waited until half time to swap them at least. Then he correctly moved Pereira to LB, but failed again taking out Juan instead of Chivu :palm:
 

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It was a bad game on so many levels, especially when it comes to our desire and unspoken goals.

What does the management want from the squad and this manager this season for the short and long term goals. To be honest with you, in every week, I still can't figure it out. We refrain from fielding in a young squad to acquire the knowledge and synergy in play for the upcoming seasons for the pretense that we are challenging for something, whether that was the title 2 months ago or the far-fetched Champions League ticket we seem to be wasting our time on.

Don't get me wrong, I do wish to get that 3rd place but the competition on that spot domestically and our aimless run in Europa and in the League is not a good sign at all. Performance wise, I have to be fair that nerazzurri4life did warn us on the signs of the lack of gameplay cohesion months ago regarding the training drills. Result wise, well... when the breathtaking "send the ball to Cassano and wait for it" and my favorite "quick find Palacio" tactics are predicted and figured out, then stopping you won't be difficult for the opposition.

A friend of mine said to me today that Lazio had a worse squad than ours regarding personnel, yet they are better when in comes to their performance. I say this because of the supporters who like to dismiss the Fiorentina argument with Montella in comparison to Inter because of their squad additions and technical players who are familiar with the league. Lazio can't be shunned however you look at it, even their manager is new to Serie A.

On the game, and the numbers don't lie:

Scott Parker, who I should apologize to for that puppy wig pic, was outstanding yesterday. The man was everywhere on the pitch, that is the type of a ball winner you want on your team unlike Gargano despite their differences. Parker had the most touches on the ball yesterday with 97 and a 87% passing accuracy in comparison to our top 56 with Zanetti and his 74% passing accuracy. Like I said, he was everywhere and that is what you expect from a midfielder of his caliber and tactical role. At times you wouldn't notice that Vertonghen pushed forward to crunch away the space for our midfielders or support his team mates with moving the ball out of defence, at that time Parker would slide in as a CB to cover for his boy. He intercepted many balls as well as pressuring and tackling our boys a lot when they had the ball or attempted to counter. On the attacking phase, he dribbled and was vital in initiating the attacks for Spurs, 2 of their great chances were from him.

Let's not forget the roles and freedom Sigurdsson, Vertonghen, Bale, and Defoe had with their shooting training at Handanovic. Thatdude yesterday mentioned the wingers of Tottenham and how they had a a strong pair of wingers with technical and athletic traits as well as pace. The problem is not only with the personnel but how they are implemented, an athletic figure like Bale and a technical one like Lennon function fluidly in a system that adopted the language of triangles, quick passing, positional switch, and one-twos around our backline.

From our side, I agree that Cambiasso was poor yesterday despite his good run of form lately. Between the time we conceded the two goals, Cuchu seemed to move alongside of Gargano to a more advanced position than Kovacic who was driven back either for tactical reasons or the instict of a footballer to defend his half and deny the opposition space. Regardless, his role was wasted between the shifts if not from minute 1 in a game and a competition that I highly doubt everyone knew what did they want from. Kovacic to impress with his Dinamo experience in continental matches? If so then :palm:. Gain an experience with a so called team? Then wrong game, wrong time, and wrong lineup.

We lost the center of the pitch, and at times Spurs formation would change from a 4231/4411 to a 343 to accommodate their attacking play and covering responsibilities since they weren't bothered much with a lone forward. Pereira, Juan, and Chivu were butchered by Lennon & Walker. Bale's free role at the center was supported with crucial passes from Sigurdsson & Dembele as the Welsh had the freedom to move anywhere outside and inside our box. Our habit to bring the best in underperforming/quiet players is annoying and this time it was Sigurdsson's turn. Spurs off the ball movement, a thing we lack, is also remarkable. Lennon is also a hard man to mark and control. :irritate:

Our attack, aside from Alvarez who was trying to bring the team forward with his skills but in a squad that lacks the ABC in group play, there was little to nothing he could do. Cassano was invisible outside that pass to Alvarez, and it was a little surprise that he didn't even try a single shot. Back to what thatdude said about the wingers, do we have any form of logical rhythm in our attacking third? We opted to play Alvarez, a techical man, on the right to break through with his "trickery" to create a pressure. At the same time we used Pereira who, for god knows why, keeps playing his trademark "long cross to Falcao" every single game even though he knows Cassano and the word jump is just :nono:...

A mix of individual mistakes and a lack of a collective system could only withstand little pressure before they combust.
 
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I recall the british commentator saying, which Internazionale team will come on to play the professional or Amateur one, well the latter came on to play and we got Humilitated. Never ever seen INTER to play this Bad it was a Nightmare.
 

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Nagatomo ,Jonathan ,Ranocchia ,Alvarez ,Gargano ,Obi ,Mudingayi ,Rocchi and etc. these people are not football players ,these people are big jokes !

3 Idiots (Moratti ,Branca and Stramaccioni) God save them but keep away from us !
 

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The most depressing thing is despite giving Strama so many chances we can't seem to grab onto any form of consistency. We are fighting against bad signings and injuries, and it's not all his fault, but it's hard to see how it won't take more a few seasons before we can win this league again [Serie A].
 

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Hello inter supporters,

Sorry for the stupid comments from some spurs fans on this site.
Inter have a proud history in the European cup/champions league winners 1964, 1965, 2010
Uefa cup winners 1991, 1994 1998

Keep the faith in your young manager, he will learn and can make inter great again.
Forza inter


Spurs uefa cup winners 1972, 1984

Cup winners cup 1963


Come on you spurs 2013



:)
 

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hello, spurs fan in peace

I do not agree. Strama is nowhere as smart as AVB. Also, we are quite broke comparing to your team. We have no game plan, and no clear plans for the future. We will continue to suck until we struck gold with some player or smth. Anyway, enjoy in real football, and don't watch Inter games this year, because we suck.
 

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hello, spurs fan in peace

I do not agree. Strama is nowhere as smart as AVB. Also, we are quite broke comparing to your team. We have no game plan, and no clear plans for the future. We will continue to suck until we struck gold with some player or smth. Anyway, enjoy in real football, and don't watch Inter games this year, because we suck.

I said the same thing about avb when he took over at spurs! I did not think he was smart but so far he has proved me wrong!


:)
 

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But AVB has at least some titles under his belt. Not really the same, we don't know if Strama is just a n00b or a good coach in the making.
 
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