Zlatan Ibrahimovic

[1919]

Official bitches, unless its a hoax. wow did not see that coming.

Ceduto Ibrahimovic

L’attaccante svedese passa all’Inter a titolo definitivo per 24,8 milioni

http://www.juventus.it/


It has cost us 24.8 million Euros! Juve for him for about 10.

he cost juve 11.5m pounds and he cost us 17m pounds. dont get confused between diff currencies.

 

[Stefan]

Inter was a cricket club founded by british expats before Milan was, it became an athletic club after that, but I dont believe it became a full football club until afterwards


Note:
I take this back, have just looked into it again...
Last time i researched it was years ago, so it seems my memory fails me.
Apologies.



Note 2:

But i'm happy to throw htis in your face.


As of 2006, Inter's 98-year run in the top flight is one of the longest of any club in the world


Note 3:

And this!


The rivalry is especially heated since Inter broke off from A.C. Milan. Inter was seen as the middle-class club (nicknamed "baüscia", a Milanese term meaning "braggart"), whereas A.C. Milan was the working-class team (nicknamed "casciavit", meaning in the Milanese dialect both "screwdriver", with reference to the working-class, and "awkward")


How many Milan fans does it take to screw in a light bulb?
10.... 8 have to spend a year working to earn the money, one has to call Moggi to ask permission, and the other one has to run the Italian mafia.

Milan was the football/cricket club. inter was formed after we broke away from the cause of their policy to only allow italians.

 

[1919]

With players we have any coach can win. Only idioy will not be able to win Scudetto with these players

lets not be too cocky. we still hv got Cesar, who will be playing LW more often than the likes of Solari.

so we r down to 10 every match that dickhead plays in.

 

[Mustafa]

lets not be too cocky. we still hv got Cesar, who will be playing LW more often than the likes of Solari.

so we r down to 10 every match that dickhead plays in.

I think Cesar is the worst player in Inter history. Why we signed 31 year old player when we have Solari and Stankovic who can play on LW :frustrat:

I never understood this transfer. How Moratti allowed it?

 

[Stefan]

:howler:

Whilst you're at it why don't you go ask Hitler for an apology for mass murder.

Tbh I felt exactly the same way as Han

I have no problem with how he or anybody else felt/feels about the deal. The problem is flaming/attacking fellow memebers. As we know thats against the rules.

 

[M.Adnan]

------------------Crespo------------------
-----Adriano--------------------Ibrahimovic


Think about this people before you cry over Martins, Recoba or Cruz.

Seriously, why do you prefer Martins over Ibrahimovic? :|

Always remember this before you say that Zlatan can't score: We bought him to break defence lines not for scoring! We bought to help to score!

Take a second look on his record last season, he helped Juve ALOT to score. He was a pain for our defenders in every derby when Materazzi wasn't playing.

In order to stop Ibrahimovic, you'll need to field a defender to watch him, and sometimes you can't.

I think Ibrahimovic didn't score last season, because.. well simply because his team is crap.

How can you score when you have Nedved and Camoranesi on the wings? How can you score when your coach ( Capello ) fields a DM with a CM instead of fielding two CM, or one DM with an AM? How can you score when your partner ( Trezeguet ) can't dribble, can't pass, can't create better chances to you, and all what he does is scoring. And about the RB, Juve had Zebina for crossing, which is worse than Cordoba crossing as a RB.

Yes he missed alot of good chances to score, but who doesn't? and.. do our strikers score better?



Simple:

( EXCELLENT, VERY GOOD, GOOD, POOR )



Martins:

Passes: Poor.
Shots: Poor.
Dribble: Poor.
Scoring: Poor.
Heading: Poor.
Speed: Excellent.
Creativity: Poor.
Team Work: Poor.


Ibrahimovic:

Passes: Very Good.
Shots: Very Good.
Dribble: Excellent.
Scoring: Poor.
Heading: Very Good.
Speed: Very Good.
Creativity: Excellent.
Team Work: Good.


Nice stats for a striker if you asked me.

Now what Martins needs to practice on in order to improve? Almost everything.

Ibrahimovic? Scoring, and to be less selfish.


But something important should be mentioned here about Ibrahimovic's scoring abilities:

Who cares if he scores or not while we have someone for that job.. Hernan Crespo.

 

[Adam]

Simple:

( EXCELLENT, VERY GOOD, GOOD, POOR )



Martins:

Passes: Poor.
Shots: Poor.
Dribble: Poor.
Scoring: Poor.
Heading: Poor.
Speed: Excellent.
Creativity: Poor.
Team Work: Poor.


Ibrahimovic:

Passes: Very Good.
Shots: Very Good.
Dribble: Excellent.
Scoring: Poor.
Heading: Very Good.
Speed: Very Good.
Creativity: Excellent.
Team Work: Good.

I like the way you think but i feel you underrate Martins a bit and overrate Zlatan a liitle.

Martins

Passes Good
Shots: Poor.
Dribble:Good (If he's inform)
Scoring: Good
Heading: Poor.
Speed: Excellent.
Creativity: Poor.
Team Work: Good

Zlatan

Passes: Very Good.
Shots: Good
Dribble: Excellent. ( If he's inform)
Scoring: Good
Heading: Good
Speed: Very Good.
Creativity: Excellent.
Team Work: Good.

That's my view, Ibra is still much better though. Anyways good post man.

 

[catanha]

this is breathtakingly laughable, its getting beyond a joke.

Zlatan is not a good signing, he may turn out to be, but at this current moment he is not a good signing because of form last season. I don't see why people use Adriano as a way of justifying Zlatan's signing, yeah Adri had a bad season, so how does that justify signing another player who had a terrible season??

Also, fark all these constant people making their starting XI's, guess what, its not that easy, there is gonna be so many problems now.

 

[Tanel]

I have my hopes high that we see a great Zlatan this season who scores goals and assists mad. This team is amazing for the upcoming season, only thing we need to do is to create a real team spirit and not even Barcelona or Chelsea could stop us. But with Inter, it's a tough thing to do.

Anyway, Zlatan will in my eyes score around 15 goals this season in leauge.

 

[Alex de Large]

Well, i'am really 50% 50% it's not that bad, and it's not that good, i see good and bad points and i will try to talk of them later.

I love when he say in the interviw: "I want to play in the Champions League, and when you play at the San Siro it is something else." (LOL, DELLE ALPI SUCKS)
Also take a look at the pics, he is smilling, with juve he didn't smile, juve has been a grey and sad team.....

Also guys, Crespo and Ibrahimovic are here obviously for money, they are mercenarys like Vieira, like almost all the players, the difference is that Ibrahimovic said in 2001 that Inter was his favourite team in Italy and in the same time Crespo joined Inter city rivals 2 years ago just 1 or 2 years after go to Chelsea.... i'am not judging Hernan anyway, i don't care.

And please don't cry over Martins, Cruz or Recoba. All of them can leave because we have better strikers. Frankly, neither of them is Inter quality and I'd rather have players better than them.

Hamed don't u think it's a bit cruel to say Cruz/Martins need to go cause we have better strikers? i agree Ibrahimovic is more talented player but who were the players who fight vs corruption all this years? 2 of them are CRUZ AND MARTINS, and i can't agree about selling them out.
Ibrahimovic will be perfect for CL.

I

 

[M.Adnan]

this is breathtakingly laughable, its getting beyond a joke.

Zlatan is not a good signing, he may turn out to be, but at this current moment he is not a good signing because of form last season. I don't see why people use Adriano as a way of justifying Zlatan's signing, yeah Adri had a bad season, so how does that justify signing another player who had a terrible season??

Also, fark all these constant people making their starting XI's, guess what, its not that easy, there is gonna be so many problems now.

We signed players with bad form in the season before, but they still had a good season later, examples:

Samuel: bad season with Real Madrid, good season with Inter.
Cambiasso: he was good with Real Madrid, but he tunred into a hero in Inter.
Crespo: He wasn't that good with Lazio in his last season, but he was good with Inter, and same thing goes to his season with Milan.
Veron: poor season with Chelsea, nice one season with Inter.
Figo: regained his name in Inter, in age 33.

And also many players failed with Inter after a great season with another club, like Davids.

If a player wants to perform well, he will, and it depends to him.

 

[M.Adnan]

Hamed don't u think it's a bit cruel to say Cruz/Martins need to go cause we have better strikers? i agree Ibrahimovic is more talented player but who were the players who fight vs corruption all this years? 2 of them are CRUZ AND MARTINS, and i can't agree about selling them out.
Ibrahimovic will be perfect for CL.

I

Inter is more important than a player says that he loves Inter, if so, why don't they sign me? I love Inter too.

I realy love Cruz and Martins, and I don't want anyone to leave. But Martins doesn't want to be one the bench, like Cruz and Recoba, and there's nothing wrong with that, he has the right to joined a club where he can play more, and I'll always be a fan of Oba Oba.

But Inter is more important, and we need better players.

 

[MasterZen]

I like this signing an d i hope that this season will be start of a beustifull era in Inter.

 

[Handoyo]

Stefan, if you are offended by my post, rest assured that it wasn't directed to you. Nor was it directed to all members who welcomed Ibra's transfer, like Hamed nor Adnan.

I'm not going to apoligise for it though. I'd rather be viewed as a villain than a hypocrite. I truly hate those who just judged this transfer blindly without any rationale. And I truly hate the prospect of us Interisti arguing against Zlatan lovers everytime Zlatan has a bad match.

Let's just hope that this guy plays like a God and none of my fear is confirmed.


Hand:stress:yo

 

[Miki]

I can forsee a really tough season on the forums with Zlatan on board. His transfer alone has spawned over a dozen pages worth of discussions, thus far.

Ciao,
Tim

 

[Chris]

With the acquisition of Ibrahimovic, now we have six strikers and it's obvious on who's going to be sold. Cruz & Recoba signed a contract in the summer, Zlatan & Crespo just signed and Adriano is untouchable. This leave us with Martins. Now of course, by the looks of it, most of you guys will be happy because Martins was a walking piece of crap last season. But, while you can easily mention how great Ibrahimovic was in 04/05, how can you simply forget how great Martins was in that same very season? He scored 22 goals despite coming off the bench a lot and has shown tremendous improvement ever since he burst into the first-team scene in 02/03. Whatever you said to defend Ibra's poor outing in 05/06 can be used to defend Martins' as well.

Firstly, that's a much better post.

I agree, it's a shame that Martins is going to be forced out, especially as he has characteristics that our ther strikers don't have.

I am not arguing that the partnership of Adri - Ibra is going to be a bad one but it is much too risky. I admit, wholeheartedly, that if the partnership clicks, Serie A is ours for grab and our attack will be as good as that of Barcelona. But why do we need to take such a risk when we know that Milan are deducted 8 points and there is no Juve in Serie A? The risks of our Serie A campaign imploding doesn't match the possibility that both Adriano & Ibrahimovic will regain their 04/05 form. Remember, both players have been indifferent as of late, not just one. And if it is big risk we are taking, why not take the big risk of trusting Recoba, again?

Recoba is injury prone, that's why you can't take the risk. I'm a Recoba fan, I think that when he's fit he's Adriano's perfect partner. However, he's shown over the years that he's unable to string games together. Every time he looks like the player we know he can be, he gets injured.

Let's move on to another point. It is clear that for the past few years, Inter players have lacked discipline on their behaviour off the pitch. Ronaldo was always in Rio de Janiero for his carnivals, Vieri was a sulk at times, Adriano was partying on the eve of Derby d'Italia and now, Ibrahimovic is another player with erratic behaviour off the pitch. I am pretty sure that he fought with Vieira in one of Juve's last season training session. We also know that he purposely played badly for Ajax in order to smoothen the transfer negotiation between them and Juve.

- Ronaldo was in Rio when he was injured.
- Vieri was a big sook at times, but he always scored. You can't ask for much more than that!
- I'm not familiar with the Adriano story, so i'll take your word for it. It's dissapointing if true.
- I'm pretty sure Ibra was asked to play shit, and the same week he came out and scored a hat-trick for Ajax. Maybe goal.com lied to me? It wouldn't be the first time!

Anyway, i'm not here to defend Zlatan. I'm not totally happy with the transfer either. However, I think everyone deserves a chance. He's done nothing wrong as an Inter player yet, so why do we abuse him? It makes no sense.

 

[Tanel]

Picking on Handoyo atm...

Zlatan - Adriano... they are the most overrated strikers in Football Manager. Scudetto is mine in Fm07!

They can both score +50 with my tactics.

 

[Gaetan]

Stefan, if you are offended by my post, rest assured that it wasn't directed to you. Nor was it directed to all members who welcomed Ibra's transfer, like Hamed nor Adnan.

I'm not going to apoligise for it though. I'd rather be viewed as a villain than a hypocrite. I truly hate those who just judged this transfer blindly without any rationale. And I truly hate the prospect of us Interisti arguing against Zlatan lovers everytime Zlatan has a bad match.

Actually, I felt offended as a fan whom had nothing against Zlatan and was actually pleased about the move. You directly insulted us all by saying that we were the newbie, FM gamer type because we invision that Ibrahimovic will reach his potential here and form a leathal partnership with Adriano.

It was a stereotype and a comment that I thought to be ridiculous and see exactly where Stefan is coming from. Those were furious words one expects from Durai, not you.

At the very end, we all want what's best for us club and as Tim said, all of our opinions are reserved to Zlatan's performances. I am predicting big things by Ibra and you aren't, that is all.

All's well that ends well. Ciao.

 

[Alex de Large]

Inter is more important than a player says that he loves Inter, if so, why don't they sign me? I love Inter too.

I realy love Cruz and Martins, and I don't want anyone to leave. But Martins doesn't want to be one the bench, like Cruz and Recoba, and there's nothing wrong with that, he has the right to joined a club where he can play more, and I'll always be a fan of Oba Oba.

But Inter is more important, and we need better players.

Martins said in the interviw for Gazzetta that Frisko translate in the official Oba topic that he DON'T WANTS TO LEAVE AND HE DON'T CARES ABOUT BE A BENCH PLAYER, he is perfect to be sub. when rival defence is tired he comes in... a great revulsive.
I don't mean love for Inter, i mean players who were here in bad moments, i don't want just to leave all of them (i hope Mancini find a system for play 4-3-3....) especially Martins or Cruz, don't ask me why but i will cry if one of this 2 players go. I don't care about other players who don't give anything for Inter like it was Kily Gonzalez or Veron.

Actually we can't say Cruz loves Inter, Cruz is a professional, Ibrahimovic is also a professional + Inter was his favourite team of Italy back in 2001.




by the way i see it this way:

EXCELLENT 10
VERY GOOD 8
GOOD 6
POOR 4


Martins

Passes: 4
Shots: 6
Dribble: 6
Scoring: 6
Heading: 8
Speed: 10
Creativity: 4
Team Work: 6

Zlatan

Passes: 8
Shots: 6
Dribble: 8
Scoring: 4
Heading: 6
Speed: 6
Creativity: 10
Team Work: 6


Martins: 50
Zlatan: 54

 

[Handoyo]

Recoba is injury prone, that's why you can't take the risk. I'm a Recoba fan, I think that when he's fit he's Adriano's perfect partner. However, he's shown over the years that he's unable to string games together. Every time he looks like the player we know he can be, he gets injured.

I personally view Ibrahimovic's petulent behaviour off the pitch and his inconsistencies as the same thing over Recoba. Besides, if you ask me, talent-wise, I believe Recoba has more in his left foot than Ibra in his entire body. I want neither of them to start though...

- Ronaldo was in Rio when he was injured.
- Vieri was a big sook at times, but he always scored. You can't ask for much more than that!
- I'm not familiar with the Adriano story, so i'll take your word for it. It's dissapointing if true.
- I'm pretty sure Ibra was asked to play shit, and the same week he came out and scored a hat-trick for Ajax. Maybe goal.com lied to me? It wouldn't be the first time!

I'm sure there are other Ronaldo off pitch antics I'm not aware of. I wasn't following Inter at that point of time and can't remember all of Ronaldo's acts. But I'm sure that there are others.

As for Vieri, his antics came about when he was in his worst form, in year 2004.

The Adriano story, I am quite sure that it is true. I believe he even had an interview with Gazzetta to apologise or something. Or that he criticised the press for microscoping his private life too much.

Zlatan's circus act doesn't only end there, he had a lot of fights in Ajax with Mido and again in Juve with Vieira.[/quote]

Anyway, i'm not here to defend Zlatan. I'm not totally happy with the transfer either. However, I think everyone deserves a chance. He's done nothing wrong as an Inter player yet, so why do we abuse him? It makes no sense.

Put it this way, will you be happy if Cafu signs? Cafu is a great RB but will be a redundant signing. Or maybe Emerson, another great player but redundant because we already have Pizarro, Cambi & Vieira. Or hey, Toni! Even after we have 6 strikers. And like last year, the absolutely ridiculous transfer of Cesar. Are you really sure that these players should be welcomed to the club? Even if they are given the chances and shine, who are we to say that the players that they replaced won't shine too, had they been given their chances?

Actually, I felt offended as a fan whom had nothing against Zlatan and was actually pleased about the move. You directly insulted us all by saying that we were the newbie, FM gamer type because we invision that Ibrahimovic will reach his potential here and form a leathal partnership with Adriano.

It was a stereotype and a comment that I thought to be ridiculous and see exactly where Stefan is coming from. Those were furious words one expects from Durai, not you.

At the very end, we all want what's best for us club and as Tim said, all of our opinions are reserved to Zlatan's performances. I am predicting big things by Ibra and you aren't, that is all.

All's well that ends well. Ciao.

Maybe you didn't read my post correctly. I didn't name any names, I just criticised those who solely based their judgment on the transfer on game ratings. Or by newspaper articles. Those who based their judgment without analysing Ibra's performances for Juve & Sweden and those who just jump at the bandwagon.

If you think you are a reasonable man, don't ever feel offended because my post wasn't directed at you in the first place.


Handyo