Beppe Marotta

Glass box said:

In support of the Juventus fans, like they supported Cagliari's fans when they abused Lukaku in 2019.

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My point exactly, unless they issue a strong statement as well, actions will be taken. Banning them from matches etc. United front.

Ethor said:

What I don't get is why Stevie and the mgmt haven't come out with a blistering statement condemning the racism, the incompetence of the ref. Demanding: Lukaku second yellow removed, Juve fans banned from the 2nd leg. Furthermore, racists taunts may result in game(s) with Inter players walking off. Demand action from the league officials and UEFA body to investigate the incident among others recently highlighted and in 2wks time come up with plan to combat it, that will be enforced immediately. Curva Nord should issue their own statement as well.

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Uh oh!

he should start moving by kicking Ausillio,a bad admin
by all means.

Didn't Inter get banned without supporters for a couple of games, after a similar situation against Fiorentina? The difference was that there were nothing proved, just some claims iirc.
I expcet like 10k fine for jube and that is it.

NimAraya said:

Uh oh!

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Ok, I'll ghost write it for them, get translated in Italian but make them verbally on camera read it.

Mr-Intermilan said:

he should start moving by kicking Ausillio,a bad admin
by all means.

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Release your hatred.

Ethor said:

What I don't get is why Stevie and the mgmt haven't come out with a blistering statement condemning the racism, the incompetence of the ref. Demanding: Lukaku second yellow removed, Juve fans banned from the 2nd leg. Furthermore, racists taunts may result in game(s) with Inter players walking off. Demand action from the league officials and UEFA body to investigate the incident among others recently highlighted and in 2wks time come up with plan to combat it, that will be enforced immediately. Curva Nord should issue their own statement as well.

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I would prefer CN to stay out of this, considering their last effort..

Stefan said:

I would prefer CN to stay out of this, considering their last effort..

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Yeah, I probably over stepped a tad with that last line. Utopian thinking on my part !

It's reported we won't appeal the Lukaku case.

This is absolutely ridiculous and completely against what the club just stated yesterday.

"We stand by you".

No, we do not. We let you unprotected to handle the racist abuse by yourself. The issue is that ref reacts to player reacting to racist abuse. It shouldn't be like that and that's what we should appeal to. Rules say player should be warned with a card if he provokes the audience. Rules also say racism is not allowed in the stadiums.

So basically what we have here is Lukaku needs to fight the racism by himself, on the pitch where the emotions run high by itself already, despite racism being against the rules. But then the ref jumps immediately when Lukaku is fighting against the racism on the pitch and warns him because he provoked" the crowd.

I do not understand why the club does not appeal. It's completely unacceptable stuff.

The way the rules are in place, unless a player is physically harmed (ie projectiles, objects etc) they're supposed to just ignore the fans.

When an entire stadium chanting "figlio di puttana" or "magari muori" you don't tell players to react to it or the refs to tell them to stop. Which I guess kind of applies to an entire series of potential verbal abuse.

So no matter where you stand, the rules are as they are. Appealing doesn't do much more than a PR stunt here. The rules in place agree with the referee. Lukaku was interacting negatively with the fans, doesn't matter why since no objects were thrown at him.

I do want to see if Inter, and anyone else, would move towards changing these rules, but then I think you'll be right that nothing will be done and no one will bother. Till the next case.

And to be clear, there are rules for this, but not when players react to being abused. They're not part of the equation. It happened with Koulibaly against us as well if you recall.

The issue is the ref interprets the player's actions towards the crowd as provocative. They have the power also NOT to do that. They could do that (inaction) in the case of racist abuse as they have themselves let the player down by not interfering to the situation in the first place.

No one would blame the ref. As it's not like Lukaku somehow provoked anyone in the stands, he didn't ran towards them and not a single person in the stands actually here what he says on the pitch.

brehme1989 said:

And to be clear, there are rules for this, but not when players react to being abused. They're not part of the equation. It happened with Koulibaly against us as well if you recall.

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Difference being, they closed down our stadium for two (2!) entire matches on the basis of chants, if they were even ever confirmed, from a clear minority.

We never saw that before, and we've never seen it since. Sure, we've seen a few Curvas or parts of stadiums being closed, but not once has any other team been handed an entire stadium ban, not even for one match.

FIGC saw it fit to strike down in any real sense on purpoted racism only against Inter.

CafeCordoba said:

The issue is the ref interprets the player's actions towards the crowd as provocative. They have the power also NOT to do that. They could do that (inaction) in the case of racist abuse as they have themselves let the player down by not interfering to the situation in the first place.

No one would blame the ref. As it's not like Lukaku somehow provoked anyone in the stands, he didn't ran towards them and not a single person in the stands actually here what he says on the pitch.

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Fair point, but then the refs are judged by other assholes and they're giving them worse grades for such things.
Unless it's against Juventus...

Yeah closing down the stadium should put some pressure to the clubs to deal with the case.

Then clubs should have the right to fine the attendees if they are found guilty.

There are ways to do something about it if the authorities wanted that.

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Fair point, but then the refs are judged by other assholes and they're giving them worse grades for such things.
Unless it's against Juventus...

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Yeah but really, they would get so much shit if someone complain if ref didn't warn a player who reacted to racial abuse.

The racism thing will eventually catch up Italian football authorities. Let's hope it happens sooner than later.

Now Lukaku and Inter suffers from this ridiculous, illogical situation.

CafeCordoba said:

Yeah closing down the stadium should put some pressure to the clubs to deal with the case.

Then clubs should have the right to fine the attendees if they are found guilty.

There are ways to do something about it if the authorities wanted that.

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I don't think they care. Not really a big issue there.

Also applies to Spain. This is a non-issue in these countries You can sing about death threats, making verbal remarks about someone's skin tone is viewed normal in Spain where if your slightly darker than average your lifetime nickname is negrito or if you were an overweight kid you'll be forever known as gordo to your friends.

And these countries hate to cater to other cultures' norms and you're more likely to meet opposition as this is an "American thing" or an "English thing" or god forbid a "French thing", and they'll be even more against taking measures.

Meanwhile Rube are going to appeal Curva Sud closing for one game. What a fucking joke. Not that i would have expected anything else from gobbi.

CafeCordoba said:

It's reported we won't appeal the Lukaku case.

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This is absolutely ridiculous and completely against what the club just stated yesterday.

"We stand by you".

No, we do not. We let you unprotected to handle the racist abuse by yourself. The issue is that ref reacts to player reacting to racist abuse. It shouldn't be like that and that's what we should appeal to. Rules say player should be warned with a card if he provokes the audience. Rules also say racism is not allowed in the stadiums.

So basically what we have here is Lukaku needs to fight the racism by himself, on the pitch where the emotions run high by itself already, despite racism being against the rules. But then the ref jumps immediately when Lukaku is fighting against the racism on the pitch and warns him because he provoked" the crowd.

I do not understand why the club does not appeal. It's completely unacceptable stuff.

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Maybe they don't see anything wrong

Inter Milan CEO to propose VAR changes after Lukaku racism scandal​

Inter CEO Beppe Marotta is set to propose changes that would allow VAR to intervene in racism incidents during matches in Italian football.

This according to Italian news outlet Repubblica.it, who report that the Nerazzurri CEO will propose these changes at the next meeting of the FIGC (Italian FA) council.

As things stand, the only time when a referee will stop a match due to racist chants from fans in the stands is if the referee himself actually notices them or is made aware of them.

At present, there is no protocol in place for the VAR to bring racial abuse within the stadium to the attention of the official.

This became a problem in Tuesday evening’s match between Inter and Juventus in the Coppa Italia semifinals, as the FIGC’s report has stated that there were in fact ongoing “monkey” chants for several minutes aimed at Nerazzurri striker Romelu Lukaku.

Moreover, it was evident that Lukaku had noticed the chants for some time before his late goal from the penalty spot and celebration “silencing” the Bianconeri supporters who were hurling racist chants at him, and that he was upset at what he heard.

Had referee Davide Massa been aware of the chants, he would have been obliged to stop the match.

However, the official evidently did not realize that the chants were happening, as his focus was on the match on the pitch.

Eventually, Massa would send Lukaku off following a goal celebration that was deemed to have been inciting the crowd, but this would never have happened had the referee been alerted to the racist chants earlier.

Accordingly, La Repubblica reports, Inter CEO Marotta is prepared to propose a change to the way that things are done.

The Nerazzurri CEO will propose a change that allows the referee to be notified of any incidents of racism within the stadium on a headset, so that the response can be more prompt and reliable.

Il Drago said:

Meanwhile Rube are going to appeal Curva Sud closing for one game. What a fucking joke. Not that i would have expected anything else from gobbi.

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Whether wrong or right atleast they defend their club and players.
WTF are our cowards in this...