2010/2011 Forwards rumors thread

Luka · Dec 27, 2010

Suneet said:
Honestly though we can play a 10-0-0 and as long as the players are happy and we are winning, nobody is going to complain.

Where did it come from ?

I wasn't saying that we should play pretty, or that I will complain if we'll play deffensive.

Black&Blue · Dec 27, 2010

Alcatraz said:
No,just Bartolomucci suggesting that he would go for Dzeko instead of Kaka.
I completly agree with him,Kaka is currently fantasy talk and Tevez(as much as i adore him)is not available this winter-but very possibly Dzeko.Although Wolfsburg are shitty in the leage(no wonder as they are basically having no midfield due to their stupid summertransfer-window) he still scored 10 goals in the leage so far and he had to take the ball from the midfield himself more than once.He is 24,great technique,scores rougly 20 goals each season and is not injury prone at all.If he comes i would even let Milito go and turn my attention to Kun in the summer.Next season we would kill the serie A.

These are just dreams,Dzeko will go to Manchester City,we won't splash 40 million cash for just one player (for this FFP rule),forget all this big names,I think that the politic is buying young talents like Castaingnos or Coutinho is the our way of the future.

Luka · Dec 27, 2010

Do we even need Dzeko ?

If we'll need a first team striker, probably Eto'o will be moved to the center permanently.

It would be really strange to see us signing a striker (probably in Militos place) and leave Eto'o on the wing.

I like Dzeko. I like him a lot, and he is a great target man for a formation like that. But I see simply no room for him here.

Too bad, our problems concern the wings, and not the center forward. But if our problems concern wings, we should focus our search on wingers. (Kaka also ain't ideal here btw)

Alcatraz · Dec 27, 2010

Black&Blue said:
These are just dreams,Dzeko will go to Manchester City,we won't splash 40 million cash for just one player (for this FFP rule),forget all this big names,I think that the politic is buying young talents like Castaingnos or Coutinho is the our way of the future.

Well that is the point,Wolfsburg are quite desperate because of their current bad run and start finally realizing that they kept their grip on Dzeko for too long.They have lowered the price to 30m,maybe we could make a deal with Muntari as they are looking for Dm-s this winter and he could be quite usefull to them.Young talents are good for the long run but if we completly ignore some big signings like Dzeko we will have some big problems in the short-middle one.Getting Dzeko now and Kun in the summer would be expensive,no doubt but would pay of in the long run for sure.

Alcatraz · Dec 27, 2010

Luka said:
Do we even need Dzeko ?

If we'll need a first team striker, probably Eto'o will be moved to the center permanently.

It would be really strange to see us signing a striker (probably in Militos place) and leave Eto'o on the wing.

I like Dzeko. I like him a lot, and he is a great target man for a formation like that. But I see simply no room for him here.

Too bad, our problems concern the wings, and not the center forward. But if our problems concern wings, we should focus our search on wingers. (Kaka also ain't ideal here btw)

Yes but look at the age of Dzeko and Milito-and if Milito gets his musculare problems once again we are fucked for sure.Dzeko is an investment for now AND the future.I would have prefered Cassano anyway for our current situation but for some reason Moratti has a different view.

Black&Blue · Dec 27, 2010

Luka said:
Do we even need Dzeko ?

If we'll need a first team striker, probably Eto'o will be moved to the center permanently.

It would be really strange to see us signing a striker (probably in Militos place) and leave Eto'o on the wing.

I like Dzeko. I like him a lot, and he is a great target man for a formation like that. But I see simply no room for him here.

Too bad, our problems concern the wings, and not the center forward. But if our problems concern wings, we should focus our search on wingers. (Kaka also ain't ideal here btw)

Agreed,sadly in Italy great wingers are a rarity and most of the italian teams doesn't base their game on wingers (only Juventus or Sampdoria comes to my mind)

Black&Blue · Dec 27, 2010

Alcatraz said:
Well that is the point,Wolfsburg are quite desperate because of their cuurent bad run and start finally realizing that they kept their grip on Dzeko for too long.They have lowered the price to 30m,maybe we could make a deal with Muntari as they are looking for Dm-s this winter and he could be quite usefull to them.Young talents are good for the long run but if we completly ignore some big signings like Dzeko we will have some big problems in the short-middle one.Getting Dzeko now and Kun in the summer would be expensive,no doubt but would pay of in the long run for sure.

I agree with you,bud sadly this is our corrent economic situation. We can't compete for big names with english and spanish teams. We need to repeat great affairs with little cash like we did with Julio Cesar,Maicon,Cambiasso,Maxwell,Sneijder,Stankovic,etc. + young talents.

Alcatraz · Dec 27, 2010

Black&Blue said:
I agree with you,bud sadly this is our corrent economic situation. We can't compete for big names with english and spanish teams. We need to repeat great affairs with little cash like we did with Julio Cesar,Maicon,Cambiasso,Maxwell,Sneijder,Stankovic,etc. + young talents.

In the case of Dzeko we actually could.This guy prefers the serie A over any other league,he mentioned this several times.Milan-his dream team-are gone for good and he knows it so it would be between us and Jube.If he would come i would sell Milito to Real and it would not be that expensive anymore.

Luka · Dec 27, 2010

Alcatraz said:
Yes but look at the age of Dzeko and Milito-and if Milito gets his musculare problems once again we are fucked for sure.Dzeko is an investment for now AND the future.I would have prefered Cassano anyway for our current situation but for some reason Moratti has a different view.

But it ain't the future, and Milito is still considered first team player by us. Plus, he earns 5 mln a year. It's not like we can have bench players like that.

AND, like I've said, there is still Eto'o.

I want to repeat, I like Dzeko very much, but you don't get players for the positions you don't need players, unless we get rid of those players.

I would LOVE to sell milito for Dzeko at the moment, but I doubt that is possible. (and again there is Eto'o...)

dynasty27 · Dec 27, 2010

We should not be forced to play a system based on wingers if we don't even have the adequate type of the players in our squad. Of course it's helpful to look for these players to include more characteristics for our game but if we don't get any of them why should we stick with this system permanently?

Black&Blue · Dec 27, 2010

Alcatraz said:
In the case of Dzeko we actually could.This guy prefers the serie A over any other league,he mentioned this several times.Milan-his dream team-are gone for good and he knows it so it would be between us and Jube.If he would come i would sell Milito to Real and it would not be that expensive anymore.

Money will decide where Dzeko will go,Manchester City is highly interested to the guy: if Mancini will offer 40 million and Juventus will offer 25/30 million,Dzeko will go to Manchester City,that's the rule of the market.
Selling Milito to Real Madrid and buying Dzeko for 30 million it's fantasy market (Real Madrid are looking for young strikers and not old ones like Milito,for Dzeko we can see an auction with Real Madrid,Manchester City and Bayern Munchen)

Alcatraz · Dec 27, 2010

Luka said:
But it ain't the future, and Milito is still considered first team player by us. Plus, he earns 5 mln a year. It's not like we can have bench players like that.

AND, like I've said, there is still Eto'o.

I want to repeat, I like Dzeko very much, but you don't get players for the positions you don't need players, unless we get rid of those players.

I would LOVE to sell milito for Dzeko at the moment, but I doubt that is possible. (and again there is Eto'o...)

Hm,well Mou is quite desperate to bolster his offens,maybe he would be tempted to take back Milito,there were some rumors.And Samu is great on the left too.
i would go for this

------------------Dzeko----------------
Samu------------Sneijder--------Biabiany

Maybe fantasy talk,maybe not but i would love to see it.....and Dzeko could play CL too.But in the end we will get Sanchez-or nothing

Alcatraz · Dec 27, 2010

Black&Blue said:
Money will decide where Dzeko will go,Manchester City is highly interested to the guy: if Mancini will offer 40 million and Juventus will offer 25/30 million,Dzeko will go to Manchester City,that's the rule of the market.
Selling Milito to Real Madrid and buying Dzeko for 30 million it's fantasy market (Real Madrid are looking for young strikers and not old ones like Milito,for Dzeko we can see an auction with Real Madrid,Manchester City and Bayern Munchen)

There were strong rumors last year up and down Wolfsburg that ManCity would of course pay the 40mios and it is just a matter of time,in the end the WAZ reported their offer was 22 mios and not a penny more.I am not that sure,they seem quite afraid of that amount too.

Ronaldo · Dec 27, 2010

but the thing is where wud u play him? u put eto on the wing and dzeko as CF?
eto is amazing at CF we all know that so why we move him to the wing? why not just buy a winger, eto as CF and milito being his sub? that wud cost less plus eto wud play in his favorite position.

or

we can play with 2 strikers, and either 2 AM, 2 wingers, or diamond formation
2 AM means we need to sign a AM (ganso?)
2 wingers then where wud sneijder play
diamond formation, we need a right and left midfielders

dont get me wrong, i wud love to see dzeko at inter but i dont think it wud happen.

but maaan!! imagine our formation if we sign dzeko and ganso (or kaka) for instace.
4222
our formantion wud look something like this:

eto ------- dzeko
sneider ----------------------- ganso
cambiasso ----- motta
zanetti --- ranocchia --- lucio ---- maicon

SEX on the beach!!!!!!
i wud love to see that happening!!!

Luka · Dec 28, 2010

dynasty27 said:
We should not be forced to play a system based on wingers if we don't even have the adequate type of the players in our squad. Of course it's helpful to look for these players to include more characteristics for our game but if we don't get any of them why should we stick with this system permanently?

The problem here dynasty, is that every team that won CL, or was a force to be reckoned with in Europe in past couple (to say at least) years, played with a system that included wingers.

We, as a team who wants to be succesfull, should go with things that give us best chances for success, not worst. We need to go with what's modern.

Alcatraz said:
Hm,well Mou is quite desperate to bolster his offens,maybe he would be tempted to take back Milito,there were some rumors.And Samu is great on the left too.
i would go for this

------------------Dzeko----------------
Samu------------Sneijder--------Biabiany

Maybe fantasy talk,maybe not but i would love to see it.....

You're not the only one (Dzeko for THIS Milito I mean).

Black&Blue · Dec 28, 2010

Luka said:
The problem here dynasty, is that every team that won CL, or was a force to be reckoned with in Europe in past couple (to say at least) years, played with a system that included wingers.

that's not true at all,barcelona did have wingers?? I never noticed to be honest,they have one winger (Pedro) but he's not their best player or so important into their game,the wingers are really important for english teams (traditionally) not for spanish or italian clubs today.

Luka · Dec 28, 2010

??

Is it not true that Barca plays with 4-3-3 on a normal day ?

Alcatraz · Dec 28, 2010

Seyyedo said:
but the thing is where wud u play him? u put eto on the wing and dzeko as CF?
eto is amazing at CF we all know that so why we move him to the wing? why not just buy a winger, eto as CF and milito being his sub? that wud cost less plus eto wud play in his favorite position.

or

we can play with 2 strikers, and either 2 AM, 2 wingers, or diamond formation
2 AM means we need to sign a AM (ganso?)
2 wingers then where wud sneijder play
diamond formation, we need a right and left midfielders

Well Samu is best as CF for sure but what i have seen this season so far with him on the left wing.....i could live with that very well and with Dzeko scoring some 10-15 goals in the second part of the season(an i assure you he is capable of doing that),we would be in the scudetto race,in the CL-spot-race for sure.

Luka · Dec 28, 2010

Alcatraz said:
Well Samu is best as CF for sure but what i have seen this season so far with him on the left wing.....i could live with that very well[...]

But Alcatraz, the problem is not whether we would live with it. Ofcourse the fans would be ok with Sammy on the wing.

The problem is whether Sammy would live with it.

Black&Blue · Dec 28, 2010

Luka said:
??

Is it not true that Barca plays with 4-3-3 on a normal day ?

So? do you think that Messi is a winger?? their kind of football is not based on wingers like a typical english team.

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