2009/2010 Midfielders rumours topic

[Michal]

No one is saying that, we want a balanced midtfield. As of now, we lack the creative am to make it balanced.

So whom would you like to sign and who has to be replaced in our perfectly working midfield?

 

[M.Adnan]

As of now, we lack the creative am to make it balanced.

We already have Figo, but I agree that he's too old to depend on for the whole season.

This is why we signed Jimenez. I'm sure that Inter have followed the guy in the past season, unlike most of us (including me) who probably saw him at most 2 or 3 times (when he played against us).

He's a natural creative attacking midfielder, that's what Lazio fans have told me. He played very well when he faced us last season, and 1 year ago when he was with Fiorentina. Right now he's only 23.

We'll wait and see.

 

[Azzkikr]

Jimenez is not a backup for figo. Figo is already a backup player. It will surely be stankovic in the am if nothing happens.

Jimenez is the new mariano gonzales, a loan backup player to be used in the coppa to see if he has any real potential.

The problem is that stankovic is not good enough to play this very important position, people are letting a few great goals from him blind them from all his obvious lacks. Not a great passer, not alot of creativity and he has alot of up and downs throughout a season, way to too inconsistent.

 

[Pulsar36]

I love it how people like to "dress up" transfers to look nice and well.

Here's what a Lazio fan said about the player (A LAZIO FAN, LAZIO QUALITY)

He doesn't have a starting 11 position, yet. The system that Lazio plays changed from a 4-4-2 to a 4-3-1-2 during the season, so there is only one position available for an attacking midfielder. Mauri normally plays there, with Jimenez coming on as a sub late in the second half. So far he hasn't impressed enough to be considered a starter. I doubt things will change much throughout the remainder of the season. But I expect that if we sign some new names in the defense for next season, the formation can move back to a 4-4-2 again, and then I'm sure he'll see more action.

 

[guest2]

Vieira is midfield, and Cambiasso is midfield. With them we have what Michal calls swat, +Deki is a good all rounder and destructor, striking to goal anything closer than 35m, hitting target every 10th time, but not close to a creator. Our play fwd suffered last year bcs we could not create for attackers but they had to do that for themselves. Ibra managed, Cruz+Recoba managed couple of times. Adri did not, Crespo punished everything, and created a bit.

But, from what I can remember, Vieira was always injured, for more than half a season at Juventus, and Arsenal as well, so was at Inter too; I feel like he played only at the beginning, proved hes WC but from then on we did not have him. Unfortunately that happened to Cambi most of the season too. That's why we fear. As for creativity, we never had it in the years back, strength/powerful midfield yes. The only playmaker we had, that I can think of, was S. Conceicao; sublime one, but it did not work greatly either. (R. Baggio they called a striker)

I see people have problems with a distinction btw mids and fwds, and definitely a drama to define creativity. So, Matrix is creative coz otherwise he wouldnt have scored that overhead, but he wont create our attacks, hein. So, Dinho and Kaka are creators, and they both won CL. Chelsea, ManU, Real dont have a play maker, but depended on i.e. Giggs, or Becks who is an obverse of our Figo. Theyre 7s, we play 442, no central figure. We need one.

 

[M.Adnan]

Well fans may have different opinions. Let's not forget that among Inter fans, there are people who like Stankovic and other don't. Same goes for Materazzi, JC, Adriano, Cambiasso, Cordoba etc etc..

It's good to know what Lazio fans in general think about Jimenez, but we'll have to wait and see how good is Jimenez with Inter before we make any judgements.

There are players who surprised us like Cambiasso and Maicon.

 

[Wittmann]

Seedorf and Pirlo suck. They don't do anything but playing long passes to average strikers like Gilardino and Inzaghi.

Pirlo and Seedorf are overrated and they did NOTHING when they faced Inter last season, in both derbies.

Kaka is everything in Milan. He's better than Ronaldinho. Milan wouldn't beat Celtic without him. His 10 goals in Champions League are why Milan reached the final (plus their defensive players), not because of Pirlo, and not because of Seedorf.

Yes, Kaka is probably the best player in the World at the moment, but that doesn't mean he can do everything alone(ok, sometimes he can.. ) or that other players suck..I've already noticed you don't have a high opinion of Seedorf and Pirlo, but that's your problem..

Kaka was fantastic in CL last year, we all know that, but the moment Seedorf raised his form, Milan started to play much better..Both of them played as AM's and did a great job since we couldn't have counted on our strikers too much..

Pirlo is a type of player some people like and some not, but his creativity and importance for the team in general should never come to a question..I'd just say that Inter did good by selling him to Milan, for us of course..

btw, I don't see Barcelona winning anything last season despite having creative midfielders like Ronaldinho and Deco.

Creative midfielders are not the only way to win.

Of course not, but it seems that Inter miss exactly that kind of players to achieve something more..Stanković and the rest of Inter's midfield are just not good enough for that cause..

 

[Wittmann]

The problem is that stankovic is not good enough to play this very important position, people are letting a few great goals from him blind them from all his obvious lacks. Not a great passer, not alot of creativity and he has alot of up and downs throughout a season, way to too inconsistent.

I see people have problems with a distinction btw mids and fwds, and definitely a drama to define creativity. So, Matrix is creative coz otherwise he wouldnt have scored that overhead, but he wont create our attacks, hein. So, Dinho and Kaka are creators, and they both won CL. Chelsea, ManU, Real dont have a play maker, but depended on i.e. Giggs, or Becks who is an obverse of our Figo. Theyre 7s, we play 442, no central figure. We need one.

That's pretty much how I see it too..

 

[Michal]

Of course not, but it seems that Inter miss exactly that kind of players to achieve something more..Stanković and the rest of Inter's midfield are just not good enough for that cause..

Consistency, hard working and sometimes a bit of luck is necessary to achieve something more. Just look at CL 1998/99 season - we saw ManU vs Bayern final.

Manchester's midfield - Giggs, Scholes, Keane, Beckham (Blomqvist and Butt as subs). There wasn't a place for creativity as we know that Ferguson's approach is "my way or the highway" and he preferred hard working midfield.

Bayern's midfield - Babbel, Jeremies, Effenberg, Tarnat and Salihamidzic. Scholl played more like a support striker so hard to find any creative player in midfield, too.

We need just someone willing to be a sub player - it is easy for Figo's position because he won't play that much. To sign a big name only because we want to win CL is irrational because we all know CL is more about a luck and we did not have it last season - Vieira was injured, Cambiasso wasn't completely fit, Burdisso had to play as a midfielder,... Of course I would like to see Inter winning CL but just concentrate only to this competition is unreasonable.

 

[Alex de Large]

for me kaka won CL alone, pirlo and seedorf were bad last season, maybe 1 or 2 good games in all the year.

 

[Stefan]

Mancini believes in Jimenez and thats enough for me.

Who could Inter's advanced midfielder be?
"Let's say that Stankovic is our basic advanced midfielder. Then there's Figo, and we're bringing in Jimenez who is a young player of 22 with great ability. A lot depends on him and what he can do, but I believe in him a lot because he has superior technical qualities to normal players. Like Figo, he can play as a half-striker or as an attacking winger in midfield. This is why I say we can play with three strikers in a different way. We need to wait a bit and get to know them better. One thing is seeing them from the outside, another is seeing them every day and understanding their qualities."

 

[Azzkikr]

What did you expect him to say? That he thought jimenez was a sack of useless shit that most likely wont play anything except a few coppa games?

Ofc he says he "believes" in the players, he praised mariano and several other garbage players the same way over the years, every coach does this...

 

[Suneet]

Mancini believes in Jimenez and thats enough for me.

Mancini very rarely signs players he doesnt need. Lets wait and watch.

 

[Pulsar36]

Apparently it will be Stankovic in the CAM spot next year with Figo and Jiminez as backups. When Jiminez plays, we will do a 4-3-3- with Suazo up front. That is what I got from the press conf

 

[Azzkikr]

lol, how did you get to that out of that press conference :howler:?

Mancio has barely seen suazo in training yet and jimenez havent joined us yet, how can you get to such tactical aspects based on absolutely nothing?

You must be gifted...

 

[uny_arturo]

Azzikikr though I agree with your points, but please at least be a bit more polite to the others on the forum for the sake of others' feelings. FI houses not only you but also plenty of interisti all over the world. Don't make us feel bad please.

 

[David Suazo]

lol, how did you get to that out of that press conference :howler:?

Mancio has barely seen suazo in training yet and jimenez havent joined us yet, how can you get to such tactical aspects based on absolutely nothing?

You must be gifted...

Mancini: could Ibrahimovic become an advanced midfielder?
"I don't think this is likely. Let's say that with Suazo who can sometimes play on the right or the left, three strikers could play with more continuity than in the past. Suazo has characteristics that allow me to field him as a very attacking winger. Of the five I have, none of them can play as an advanced midfielder."

Who could Inter's advanced midfielder be?
"Let's say that Stankovic is our basic advanced midfielder. Then there's Figo, and we're bringing in Jimenez who is a young player of 22 with great ability. A lot depends on him and what he can do, but I believe in him a lot because he has superior technical qualities to normal players. Like Figo, he can play as a half-striker or as an attacking winger in midfield. This is why I say we can play with three strikers in a different way. We need to wait a bit and get to know them better. One thing is seeing them from the outside, another is seeing them every day and understanding their qualities."


Perhaps thats the way he got it.

You e-raged dane =)

Come on insult me more please, too much rage. Perhaps the 3-0 victory for Sweden made u all eggy?

 

[Azzkikr]

Read what pulsar wrote, read what you just wrote and then read my post again. Im refering to the stuff about playing 433 with jimenez and when he plays suazo plays ect ect, loads of bullshit:drunk:.

After that edit your post and shut up.

 

[Azzkikr]

Azzikikr though I agree with your points, but please at least be a bit more polite to the others on the forum for the sake of others' feelings. FI houses not only you but also plenty of interisti all over the world. Don't make us feel bad please.

I have a very direct way of talking/writing, dont consider it insults because its not (in most cases anyways).

 

[rockball]

Mancini very rarely signs players he doesnt need. Lets wait and watch.

We got Cesar back :O