2018/2019 Defenders Rumours Thread

[Bluenine]

Pavard is also playing out of position, he is a CB

Never seen him play before the WC. He is a CB? Fucker looks weak at defending even for a FB. Pass.

 

[Trininerazzuri]

Never seen him play before the WC. He is a CB? Fucker looks weak at defending even for a FB. Pass.

He scored a great goal vs Argentina today, probably the best of the world cup so far!

 

[K.I.]

To me that is one of my fav goals ever, along with Maicon's against Juventus & Bergkamp in the 98 WC.

 

[CafeCordoba]

http://www.fcinternews.it/focus/sky...vvicinano-il-club-disposto-a-blindarlo-281306

Florenzi is closing to a renewal

 

[ElDuccio]

look how a good mercato turns too shit

http://www.fcinternews.it/focus/sky...ce-di-matteo-darmian-c-e-anche-la-juve-281312

 

[Universe]

With juve swiping Cancelo like that, there is a sick, sick joke being played on us. If we go out and buy fucking Darmian, the piece of trash who began this fucking nightmare, we're just going to pull the punchline on ourselves.

 

[chipschups]

Joke is if we took a risk buy Cancelo and Rafinha then get FFP banned and restriction for next 5 years as the expense.

 

[Universe]

Joke is if we took a risk buy Cancelo and Rafinha then get FFP banned and restriction for next 5 years as the expense.

1. who said anything about Rafinha?

2. how many times do I need to prove we could have bought Cancelo if we wanted to?

3. this isn't even about Cancelo as much as it is about Darmian. Have you even watched Darmian play? Do you actually fucking want Darmian in our team?

 

[Palatiga]

Dude we have money now,
we could get cancelo if we want it, but we didnt even say proper goodbye to him,
I mean we didnt even “please wait after july 1 so we can settle the ffp first”, in which cancelo MIGHT wait for us

Looks like its either a) spallo doesnt want him/ want another RB who can defence, or b) we think 40 millions is too much for him so we move on

Its not like he’s choosing juve over us, we didnt even try for him

 

[K.I.]

Apparently Valencia had to sell him for FFP before July 1st.

There is also the possibility that Spalletti didn't really want him and he agreed with Ausilio that 40 may be too much for him [which is a rumor]

 

[Kramerica Industries]

Apparently Valencia had to sell him for FFP before July 1st.

To which Cancelo could've been an asshole and refused a move if he wanted to anyway because it's not like Valencia owed anything to him, but Cancelo didn't owe anything to Inter either so if he felt making the move to Juve when he did was the best thing he could do at this point of his career, I can't hold that against him. But it sure would've been nice if he had opted to wait until after June 30 not only because it would've given us a better chance at keeping him (if Spalletti wanted him anyway) but also because it would've put Valencia in a tough spot and, frankly, that would've been a wonderful development independent of anything involving Inter.

 

[monster09]

Never seen him play before the WC. He is a CB? Fucker looks weak at defending even for a FB. Pass.

CB looking weak defensively at FB position is not a surprise though. Haven't watched him play as a CB but he was highly rated even before the world cup started.

He is very good passer it seems and looking at his goal and also in France friendly games, he looked very good technically.

https://twitter.com/vertikalpass/status/887054105578831872

 

[chipschups]

1. who said anything about Rafinha?

2. how many times do I need to prove we could have bought Cancelo if we wanted to?

3. this isn't even about Cancelo as much as it is about Darmian. Have you even watched Darmian play? Do you actually fucking want Darmian in our team?

1.2.. Latest GDS report says we only gathering 51.5mil and only 6.5mil from FFP number. Thar just show the deal is impossible to begin with when Valencia rejecting our request to delay the deadline till July. Show me how you fund thia fkn deal????????? we even barely dodge the FFP thx to Ausilio hardwork, did you wanna him to lose his both leg need pull another miracle gathering 20mil more outtanowhere???? Easier said than done!!!

3. We all been rumouring with Florenzi, Vrsaljko, Kaderebek, Bereszynski, Darmian etc the defender in OUR RANGE which 15-20mil from start our mercato. And now you act like teenage girls screaming for other recycling darmian rumour??? For what??? Even if we sign one of team or any other right back in OUR RANGE you probanly still crying and whining like girls on her period.
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4. I TRUST 100% to Spalletti and Ausilio about anyone we sign on this mercato since both work in line and on the right track. Spalletti will make it work and put the player fit his system even if he decide to not sign anyone and choose 3 at back with Candreva as our RWB. I FULLY GIVE MY TRUST to Spalletti and co. They did great job so far and this is my time to give my support to them!!.

5. Cancelo can like tons of anti Juve meme and he will still DEAD TO ME!!! Stop that bullshit we didnt choose him and then saying he did have a right to choose Juve. Are you kidding me?? Did people get hacked by Serie A or they just as usual being the hypocrite one accused someone like Serie A a Juventino but deep down still praising every Juve move and desperately want us signing Cancelo like what juve did. Just go supporting Juve then so you all can watch Cancelo 24/7!!!

 

[Wallace]

Jesus christ, take your pills.

We don't need 2 jjms

 

[Universe]

1.2.. Latest GDS report says we only gathering 51.5mil and only 6.5mil from FFP number. Thar just show the deal is impossible to begin with when Valencia rejecting our request to delay the deadline till July. Show me how you fund thia fkn deal????????? we even barely dodge the FFP thx to Ausilio hardwork, did you wanna him to lose his both leg need pull another miracle gathering 20mil more outtanowhere???? Easier said than done!!!

3. We all been rumouring with Florenzi, Vrsaljko, Kaderebek, Bereszynski, Darmian etc the defender in OUR RANGE which 15-20mil from start our mercato. And now you act like teenage girls screaming for other recycling darmian rumour??? For what??? Even if we sign one of team or any other right back in OUR RANGE you probanly still crying and whining like girls on her period.
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4. I TRUST 100% to Spalletti and Ausilio about anyone we sign on this mercato since both work in line and on the right track. Spalletti will make it work and put the player fit his system even if he decide to not sign anyone and choose 3 at back with Candreva as our RWB. I FULLY GIVE MY TRUST to Spalletti and co. They did great job so far and this is my time to give my support to them!!.

5. Cancelo can like tons of anti Juve meme and he will still DEAD TO ME!!! Stop that bullshit we didnt choose him and then saying he did have a right to choose Juve. Are you kidding me?? Did people get hacked by Serie A or they just as usual being the hypocrite one accused someone like Serie A a Juventino but deep down still praising every Juve move and desperately want us signing Cancelo like what juve did. Just go supporting Juve then so you all can watch Cancelo 24/7!!!

I've noticed you've been off your rails recently, taking a ultra hardline, zero-tolerance approach to most of the complaints on the forum. I try to take in a wide view on both the positives and negatives to each and every separate issue and leave my analyses like that, without blanketing it into a general, overall assessment, something you seem incapable of. Viewing something with a blanket logic like "the ends justifies the means" is a naive way of looking at things and it just ensures mistakes are not identified, not corrected and will be repeated. For example, I think Spalletti and Ausilio did a fantastic job this season regarding certain areas, but they deserve criticism for other decisions. I make this distinction, to view individual incidents specifically, whereas you seem to be either incapable or unwilling, and view it from a very broad perspective, but it is what it is I guess.

For example, I am praising Spalletti for his man-management of the team. But at the same time I am criticising him for his inability to develop a tactical plan less dependent on crossing from the wing, and his lack of rotation and poor timing on substitutions which led to many poor results in the December to February period. Do you understand this distinction? Do you understand that it is possible to give credit and constructively criticise at the same time?

1,2. €51.5m gathered is a fantastic number. But just because one studied well for an exam and got a great 90% score doesn't mean with a little bit more effort 95% wasn't attainable. That is my point. Sure, you can be happy with your 90% score but you don't need to start going crazy when others look forward and want 95% for the next exam. That is what elite students or clubs do. At the end of the day, don't we all want to be an elite club? It's been well documented that Valencia wanted Kondogbia very badly and vice versa. Ausilio did not use this to our advantage. He did not structure the Kondogbia deal to provide us with more capital gains for this June 30th deadline. That is a fail on his part.

Ausilio likely only brought Cancelo in as cover for D'Ambrosio and Candreva and agreed to some ludicrous redemption fee for Cancelo assuming he would never intend on paying it anyway. That lack of foresight is a fail on his part too. Eder had interest from Valencia, which we could have used for more capital gains for Cancelo. Joao Mario and Dalbert are clearly viewed as surplus, but we have failed to make any headway selling these players. Despite Ausilio's excellent work in selling primavera players and Santon for example, he has not been successful getting Joao Mario off our books.

Likewise, with any player swap deal we've made (Nainggolan, Politano) it's possible we could have commanded a higher fee for the outgoing primavera players in order to make more capital gains by June 30th and paid the clubs back in the next financial years. If you assess the deals we've made for these young players, it's just clever accounting to get around FFP. In some of these deals, very little money is actually changing hands, see the Politano loan / Odgaard swap. If you sell me a pair of shoes for $100 and then you buy a $90 jacket from me, only $10 has changed hands. For example, Zaniolo was valued at €4.5m in the Nainggolan deal while the cash paid for Nainggolan himself will be €24m. I refuse to believe it was impossible for us to value Zaniolo at €6m for example, (thereby providing another €1.5m capital gains this financial year) and simply pay Roma back that extra €1.5m on top of the €24m we will pay over the next few years for Nainggolan. Repeat this process for other outgoing players and inch from €51.5m closer to €60m. Sell Eder, loan Dalbert and Joao Mario and you're practically there.

3. I'm sick of repeating myself but at the end of the day, it doesn't matter if we had €1b in surplus, it seems like Spalletti simply doesn't want Cancelo. I am lamenting Spalletti's decision and criticising it because I think the replacement fullbacks on the market are poor, while we had a ready-made, constantly improving, proven performer in Cancelo.

3/4. Peasant mentality. Trust works two ways. After dropping points to Torino, Milan, Atalanta and juve, we lost the clutch match at home to Sassuolo. In that time, Lazio stumbled game after game and finally gifted us our final chance by failing to beat Crotone. We had to rely on blind fucking luck to even come within touching distance of top 4 in the last half of the season. We were 9 minutes away from drawing to Lazio and missing out on CL again. And we would have been completely fucked. Have you forgotten all of this? Your current attitude trend is to ignore that and support the coach blindly, "the end justifies the means". But you should view it more critically. Maybe if we hadn't went 10 games without winning in the middle of the season, we wouldn't have needed an 81st minute goal from Vecino to save us. Maybe if Spalletti hadn't lost us games by repeatedly playing Santon the walking disaster, we wouldn't have needed to sit there suffering heart attacks and praying that Zenga and Crotone could do us a miraculous favor.

Like I said, trust works two ways. Your attitude of 'all in or all out' lacks exactness, and that attitude allows mistakes to go uncorrected and repeated. I hope, not trust, but hope, that Suning, Ausilio and Spalletti have a more refined and discriminating analysis of our season and our future than you do.

5. Not even going to respond to this nonsense.

 

[JJM]

Jesus christ, take your pills.

We don't need 2 jjms

Yeah and also because one Wallace is already too much, for FIF to handle.

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[Il Drago]

Darmian: Juve, Inter, Napoli…
By Football Italia staff

Manchester United and Italy full-back Matteo Darmian claims ‘I could move to Juventus, Inter or Napoli’ this summer.

“United are a top club, but wanting to be a starter is normal,” he told Gazzetta dello Sport.

“I have one more year on my contract and we haven’t talked about a renewal. My agent knows what I want.

“Returning to Italy? It could be to Juve, Inter, Napoli or someone else, it’s not for me to say.

“In any case, I’d only move to the club who offered me the best solution. My doors are open.

“Last year? I was close, but United didn’t want me to go. It was a sign of esteem, plus I wanted to play under Mou for another year.

“Premier League or Serie A? There’s a comparison to be made technically, but we don’t have the stadia and money makes a difference.

“Still, [Serie A clubs] are on the right track. They’re doing well, so we have to trust them.”

 

[DARi0]

Then let`s see if we can loan Šime Vrsaljko..

 

[PHM1605]

Damn the lack of satisfactory rumours on this thread worries me It repeats exactly what I felt last season: "one more CB please, one more only and we can close a great Mercato". It seems ridiculously obvious but at the end...nobody came then we had to get a trash quick fix solution in winter, to satisfy Spalletti.

After letting Cancelo leave, Florenzi extends, atm we are left with the only good choice Vrsaljko. Even for him, why should Athletico sell their starter unless they have an improvement (Sidibe?!?)? The 2nd choice, Zappacosta, is far behind and please, Ausilio, don't even put the shitty Piccini/Darmian to our list

I feel Spalletti is going to convert Candreva to a RB.. because we have sold every other choices, even the Primavera one (Valietti)

 

[Ronaldo]

Watch us pay 20 million + bonuses for fucking Darmian...

Juve getting our player and we get the trash they left out