2019/2020 Defenders Rumours Thread

[ADRossi]

Eriksen to Inter was also a very funny rumour :rollani:

Don't bother giving him the attention he so desperately craves

 

[DARi0]

Gosens is a bit overrated here.

Care to argue why? On the contrary, I don`t think enough people appreciate his evolution as a player. It`s his 2nd fantastic season and he keeps growing, assisting, scoring! Strong as a tank. What else do you want from him?

Just like all Atalanta players. It's the system that make them look so good.

Aren`t we playing more or less the same for him? He would have the same role here in both 3-5-2 and 3-4-1-2, right? Please correct me if I`m wrong.

Selling Gosens for profit and relying on scouting for an immediate replacement feels like a backhand to Gasperini and the supporters.

I`ve read that the job is already done and they have the replacement in place.

However, I believe Alaba is our "secret" main target :datass: and we are just aiming to upgrade Biraghi loan to Emerson loan as a backup/low-cost plan.

 

[CafeCordoba]

I see Alaba more as LCB acquisition which we are after also. If he doesn't want to play LB, does he want to play LWB? I really doubt it specially after this LCB hunt rumor.

Gosens is said to be wanting to play in Bundesliga. But he may never get out of Atalanta before his contract runs out, I doubt Bundesliga clubs apart from Bayern have funds to buy him for over 30m€.

 

[Pajo]

Alaba would be mediocre signing as LWB. Great LB, good LCB, but hell no as LWB. I honestly think people around here havent seen Alaba in the past 3 years.

Edit: as for Gosens, he has played awesome. Thing with him is, most of Atalanta players are used to that system and mentality, and fail at another club. I would like him, but depends on the money. I wouldnt pay too much for ajy atalanta players as i label them as huge risk.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Yeah. In Atalanta's system it feels the WBs have A LOT OF freedom to just attack and they are not tracking back like mad as in Conte's WBs? But also I think it might not be that hard to replicate what Conte wants. The most important part is anyway good stamina for the running. And Gosens seems to be have the legs and the lungs. What he also has is the anticipation, timing and positioning in when attacking.

The defensive positioning is obviously one big risk for any WB coming to Conte's system as a newbie.

 

[diamen]

First and foremost, Atalanta plays using 3-4-2-1 formation. Small difference, but it changes a lot. They actually have wingers, who are often Papu Gomez and Ilicić. They dribble a lot, they ran past opponents and they create space for wingbacks. Gosens and Hateboer don't dribble too much. They usually just run with full speed and cross, because the wingers create them free space.
Another difference is that they act as forwards many times. The simple pattern is to make cross by one wingback and finish with header by another one. In this season most of the times Hateboer is crosser while Gosens is finisher. In our tactic wingbacks are more stick to the lines (however against Brescia Young finished the cross from Alexis and it was an action similar to Atalanta's).

Due to these facts, I have a concern that Gosens left alone on the left would struggle in attacking phase like Biraghi. He couldn't create too much by his own. On the other side, Hakimi will surely create a lot of opportunities from the right side which could be finished by Gosens who is like another forward in the box and having 3 tall players in the box would be cool.
So it's hard to say. Gosens is perfectly suited to Gasperini's tactics. He is great finisher, he is very aggressive and runs a lot, but he has also drawbacks. I would take him only if Conte asks for him and has clear idea about his role.

I like Kostić, because he has ability to create something from nothing and he acts often as playmaker by making runs to center part of the pitch, but after getting Hakimi I get Conte's point about more defensive minded left wingback. I'm not sure if Emerson Palmieri is the right choice, but I get the pattern. Alaba seems to be perfect.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Okay, good to know, haven't really paid attention THAT much, so thanks. :thumbsup:

Yeah it could be Gosens might be too offensive. On the other hand if we can get our midfield to be more fluid and faster to react to counters, it could still work. Lack of space might surely be an issue. Maybe it can be worked with the movement of the forwards and the midfield to create that space. But you are right that it's a bit different with Atalanta with their 1 CF compared to our 2 CFs since Gosens is usually indeed in the box finishing the attacks, we don't have that some room there as usually it's Toro on the left side of the box waiting (where Gosens usually runs). But could be worked still?

Anyway, Gosens is very expensive so it's dubious anyway. Alaba I feel is not LWB at all, but for LCB role if he's signed.

 

[diamen]

Christian Falk about Inter being linked to Alaba: Inter is interested, but Alaba is not

:alone:

 

[qb4ever_2k]

Don't bother giving him the attention he so desperately craves

Has he been proven wrong before?

 

[brehme1989]

Has he been proven wrong before?

He's Nostradamus after all.

 

[varmin]

"Chelsea are reportedly close to agreeing the sale of Emerson Palmieri after Inter Milan lodged a bid worth up to £23million. Both Palmieri and Marcos Alonso face uncertain futures at Stamford Bridge with Frank Lampard not favouring either player this season.
According to Tutto Mercato Web, Chelsea director Marina Granovskaia had initially demanded £27m for Palmieri.
The 25-year-old had attracted interest from a number of Serie A club, but it seems Inter are pressing ahead with the first offer.
It is claimed Inter are offering an initial £18m plus £5m in bonuses.
And the report suggests Chelsea could agree to those terms, with Inter moving ahead of Napoli and Juventus in the race for his signature.
Antonio Conte's side have also reportedly offered higher personal terms than any other interested club."

If this is true, I don't like it. We should try to get him on dry loan only.

 

[DARi0]

Their coach Hans Flick commented on the future of David Alaba and Thiago Alcantara, whose contracts will expire in 2021 and both have been strongly linked to a move away from the German champions:

“They both know what I think of them. We will give them plenty of time to think it over. I will try to give them my support as a coach and as an adviser. But in the end, it is the player who has to make his decision and we have to respect it. Everyone has their own plan on what they want to do in life, it is a legitimate thing to do.”

The chances of David Alaba staying at Bayern Munich continue to collapse with each passing day. So what is his future going to look like? According to transfer market agent and intermediary Ivan Reggiani, the player is probably going to join Inter.

“As far as I know, the player is leaving and I think Inter have already concluded something important. I also think there is a signature between the Nerazzurri and the player’s representatives and I think that Inter can really have him in the team next season.”

CdS: Emerson Palmieri - negotiations are already in an advanced stage. The former Roma player is preferred over Marcos Alonso due to cost (€20M-€25M compared to €35M), wages (€3.5M versus €6M) and age (26 against 30).

 

[CafeCordoba]

Alonso's wage :scared:

 

[SiamoNoi]

Apparently,Alaba only wants to play as a midfielder this days and that's why he wants to go (+ better wage).

 

[vex]

Christian Falk about Inter being linked to Alaba: Inter is interested, but Alaba is not

:alone:

Thats all we need to know. Dude is balls deep into bayerns affairs.

 

[ADRossi]

Thats all we need to know. Dude is balls deep into bayerns affairs.

Agreed. It's not happening.

 

[Bluenine]

"Chelsea are reportedly close to agreeing the sale of Emerson Palmieri after Inter Milan lodged a bid worth up to £23million. Both Palmieri and Marcos Alonso face uncertain futures at Stamford Bridge with Frank Lampard not favouring either player this season.
According to Tutto Mercato Web, Chelsea director Marina Granovskaia had initially demanded £27m for Palmieri.
The 25-year-old had attracted interest from a number of Serie A club, but it seems Inter are pressing ahead with the first offer.
It is claimed Inter are offering an initial £18m plus £5m in bonuses.
And the report suggests Chelsea could agree to those terms, with Inter moving ahead of Napoli and Juventus in the race for his signature.
Antonio Conte's side have also reportedly offered higher personal terms than any other interested club."

If this is true, I don't like it. We should try to get him on dry loan only.

We are going after the wrong one. Emerson is a better fullback, Alonso is a better wingback. Both seem out of favour with Lampard, Alonso has been on the bench for the last 2 games. Alonso might be cheaper as well due to his age, at least in terms of fee. And his wages shouldn't be a problem either, thanks to the new tax law. Around €5m gross salary would give Alonso the same take home as he gets at Chelsea

 

[magnesium]

We are going after the wrong one. Emerson is a better fullback, Alonso is a better wingback. Both seem out of favour with Lampard. Alonso might be cheaper as well, at least in terms of fee. And his wages shouldn't be a problem either, thanks to the new tax law. Around €5m gross salary would give Alonso the same take home as he gets at Chelsea

I almost think like you, but our management have different view of course.

First Emerson is Italian, second he is still 25. Third, He can useful for next Euro.
If succesfull, we get Italian NT starter at 25 years old. In other hand Marcos Alonso already 30.
Trust me, Marotta will not agree to buy player 30 years old for more than 20m. Steven Zhang policy is build Inter from young player.
So basically Alonso already not approved by our management. okerface:
I remember how hard Conte want Emerson at Chelsea. Maybe he think his mission is not compelete. He want change Emerson to one of the best wingbacks in the world now.

 

[Bluenine]

I almost think like you, but our management have different view of course.

First Emerson is Italian, second he is still 25. Third, He can useful for next Euro.
If succesfull, we get Italian NT starter at 25 years old. In other hand Marcos Alonso already 30.
Trust me, Marotta will not agree to buy player 30 years old for more than 20m. Steven Zhang policy is build Inter from young player.
So basically Alonso already not approved by our management. okerface:
I remember how hard Conte want Emerson at Chelsea. Maybe he think his mission is not compelete. He want change Emerson to one of the best wingbacks in the world now.

True, Marotta is trying to build a young and Italian Inter. I understand why its Emerson, just wish it was Alonso. However, perhaps Conte would now prefer a slightly more defensive LWB to balance Hakimi.

 

[magnesium]

True, Marotta is trying to build a young and Italian Inter. I understand why its Emerson, just wish it was Alonso. However, perhaps Conte would now prefer a slightly more defensive LWB to balance Hakimi.

Young attack, Emerson defense. Call me crazy, but I think Emerson will become Young backup next year. Conte trust Young as starter, until he tired or injured, he will play him.
The perfect attacking LWB for Conte is Gervinho blivious: