Andrea Stramaccioni

[n4l]

An unmotivated Pazzini is just like an unmotivated Maicon, in that both are on their way out.

Neither of these players features in Strama's plans.

I don't see what was said to Pazzini any different than SAF with Berbatov. If a player is not in your plan you should be honest with him instead of stringing him along only to tell him later that he is not right for the job. At worse we get Quagrialla in place of Pazzini. Which in Strama's formula is better for the team.

How can use Fergie as an example?
He has Rooney, Chicarito, and Welbeck....and worst case scenario, has Bebe and Macheda Furthermore, he has MONEY if he needs to spend, plays in the PL, works for ManU, and his name is fucking alex ferguson.

If you can't see why strama did this too early, then we'll just have to leave it at that. No use beating a dead horse.

 

[MVD]

That´s what I wanted to point out about the Strama-Pazzini-situation...
But you 2 guys (nerazzurri4life+vasilios) did that waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than me.....

 

[Native]

No players whose name start with Qua please... PLEASE

 

[vasilios]

An unmotivated Pazzini is just like an unmotivated Maicon, in that both are on their way out.

Neither of these players features in Strama's plans.

I don't see what was said to Pazzini any different than SAF with Berbatov. If a player is not in your plan you should be honest with him instead of stringing him along only to tell him later that he is not right for the job. At worse we get Quagrialla in place of Pazzini. Which in Strama's formula is better for the team.

And why is he unmotivated? Wanting to replace Pazzini is one thing (I was in favor of that all along), but forcing him out of the squad w/o having a replacement lined up makes no sense. Exchanging him for Quagliarella is laughable. We managed to turn Pazzini from an asset into a burden simply because he's not Strama's 'type'.

As far as Maicon goes, getting rid of him is strictly a financial decision based on the fact that he's aging, makes way too much money and his contract is up after next season. Even in a coma, he's better than Jonathan.

 

[MANTA]

That is what happens when you change coaches, some assets turn into burdens. There is no place for a pure striker in Strama's plan.

Pazzini will not stay for next season. He will be sold or exchanged. That is his wish and the wish of the club.

The only alternative thing that Strama could have done was lie to Pazzini and tell him he still had a shot, and Pazzini would stay in the club (even though we would rather have another attacker instead). Then he would sit on the bench because he doesn't fit our system or, even worse, Milito gets hurt and we are forced to depend on Pazzini and our entire attacking rhythm gets ruined.

As far as I'm concerned there was no better way to handle this. Be honest with the player, even if he will not appreciate it now, all parties will appreciate it tomorrow.

 

[snake]

But Pazzini said what he said AFTER being told by Strama he's not in his plans...

When it comes to the media, Pazzo spoke first. Not Strama.

Sure, behind closed doors, Strama may have told Pazzini that he doesn't see him in his squad. What is wrong with that? At least it sounds like the coach/management were upfront to Pazzini in regards to wanting him. That's better than doing it behind his back and letting him rot in the stands at 2 million a year.

Now as for the media, Pazzo deserves shitty treatment for the way he unprofessionally busted it out during that presentation

See here: 9th July http://forzainterforums.com/showthr...o-quot-Pazzini&p=968425&viewfull=1#post968425

Strama only followed it up with journalistic questions

See here: 14th July http://forzainterforums.com/showthread.php?10440-Andrea-Stramaccioni&p=971294&viewfull=1#post971294

 

[Tanel]

Bit off-topic: If Pazzo was not Italian there'd be no argument about this "situation" and people would be happy to force him out.

 

[vasilios]

Bit off-topic: If Pazzo was not Italian there'd be no argument about this "situation" and people would be happy to force him out.

Personally I could not give a smaller amount of fucks about Italy or about Pazzo. The fact is he remains our only other center forward on the team capable of contributing anything. And I think going out of our way to kick him out of the squad despite there being a seemingly small market for him and us having no sort of replacement just because he's not Strama's ideal type of player isn't the smartest move. If we had a capable replacement, we could ship him off to Siberia for all I care.

 

[MVD]

I don´t care about Pazzini being Italian or from Mars either. For some good reason the club is called 'Internazionale'.
But in my eyes it is exactly like Vasilios said - it´s not very wise from a coach to reject a player in public as long as you don´t have a proper replacement for him or tons of gifted strikers on the bench.

 

[MANTA]

Still nearly a month to go in the market. Pazzini can be offloaded and replaced with a more suitable player. Strama says the only thing he doesn't want is signing players with characteristics they don't need, and he doesn't need a pure striker.

 

[The_Eradicator]

Personally I could not give a smaller amount of fucks about Italy or about Pazzo. The fact is he remains our only other center forward on the team capable of contributing anything. And I think going out of our way to kick him out of the squad despite there being a seemingly small market for him and us having no sort of replacement just because he's not Strama's ideal type of player isn't the smartest move. If we had a capable replacement, we could ship him off to Siberia for all I care.

Exactly, got no problems with Pazzo leaving, it's find a suitable replacement. Selling him for 8-10mil and using that money to sign some nuffy like Osvaldo is stupid IMO. Not one name we have been linked with as a "vice-Milito" has impressed besides Destro and of course we blew that transfer anyway. Also the whole idea of a "vice-Milito" is stupid, people have short memories: yes he had a good 6 months the 2nd half of the season but that was preceded by 18 months when he was absolute garbage. We really shouldn't be pegging all our eggs in one basket with Milito given his age, consistency and injuries. If we sell Pazzo we need another 20+ goal striker who can step in when needed. Not a youngster or a journeyman.

 

[MVD]

Time is running fast. There are only about 3 weeks left until the end of this transfer window.
I really don´t see to which club exactly Inter can offload Pazzini.
And I don´t see a suitable replacement that fits into Strama´s plans either.

On the other hand - do we really know what kind of player Strama is looking for? Or do we only know the type of player he wouldn´t want to sign?
Fact is that Strama can´t put the burden of the whole season mainly on Milito´s and/or Palacio´s shoulders - let alone Longo and Livaja.
Somebody should tell him that Milito is not a Duracell bunny...

 

[Bill]

What is Pazzini's wage? We overpaid for him, so if he was sold we would take a loss no matter what. If his wage isn't ridiculous some team in Italy will pay for him, right? At the very least a loan so we don't have to pay ALL of his wage.

 

[vasilios]

2.5mil according to GDS. A bit high for teams like Lazio, Napoli, etc. If the best we can do is a loan w/ us paying a portion of his wages, then no way should we get rid of him.

 

[MANTA]

We already have a deal with Juve to swap for Quagliarella at the end of the transfer market if we can't find another deal earlier. So that is the safety net.

We have had several offers for Pazzini but he said no to all of them. Now Napoli seem to be interested, rumor has it he could be Cavani's replacement if the latter is sold.

Finding suitors for Pazzini is not the problem, its that his mind is set on only a few clubs.

 

[vasilios]

We already have a deal? According to who? Nothing more than speculation. And regardless, that's not a good deal for us. Quagliarella is not the player he was a couple years ago.

 

[necrodragon]

instead of pursuing this lucas, we should have got damio for 20-25 million, now with his olympic perfomances it is not possible, seriously we dont need a vice milito, we need milito to become the vice milito, seriously you guys expect him to deliver another 20 goal season. I mean we are seriously fucked if milito gets injured and we dont have pazzini or some reliable striker

 

[snake]

we dont need a vice milito,

:fffuuu:

we need milito to become the vice milito,

:chan:

 

[MANTA]

We already have a deal? According to who? Nothing more than speculation. And regardless, that's not a good deal for us. Quagliarella is not the player he was a couple years ago.

Neither is Pazzini

 

[vasilios]

Bullshit. Pazzini's the same player he's always been. Put him out there w/ Cassano or Eto'o, he does well. Put him out there with Forlan or Zarate, not so much. He's always needed others to be the main threat and create for him, difference is last year we didn't have anyone doing it. Ideal? No, but for a backup/alternative for Milito, especially if Milito reverts back to La Principessa mode he's fine. Swapping him with Quagliarella is a horrible move, but I suppose it's par for the course.