Andrea Stramaccioni

[NeonBlade]

NEW BLOOD!?

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT! PRACTICALLY THE ONLY PLAYERS FROM THE TREBLE TEAM THAT STILL PLAY IS ZANETTI, CAMBIASSO AND CHIVU!!!!

WE PLAY WITH AN ENTIRELY NEW SQUAD! GURAIN, CASSANO, RANO, JUAN, PALACIO, HANDA etc. etc.

GET OUT OF HERE WITH THIS SHIT! DEFENDING MEDIOCRITY!

 

[.h.]

Well said. That, in a nutshell, is our biggest weakness as a club. We just don't have patience. The first time Moratti showed enough patience in a manager, he delivered us 3 Scudetti and started one of our most glorious era's.

This Siena defeat is probably our worst in Strama's time here. Hopefully he will now change some things. But I have no doubt that the road ahead is full of such bumps, whether its Strama or anyone else leading us. Our spending power is nothing like it used to be, so the rebuilding process will be that much slower and more painful.

We need patience. More than anything else.

over the last 15 years or so, i'd agree in a fucking heartbeat

Now, though, this is a case where I do not believe patience will assist.

 

[snake]

All we need is a formation change?

What am I reading. This isn't a computer game. Our problems are much more underlying. We have zero structure, zero movement and zero forward progression.

 

[.h.]

my fuck..
did snake just criticize the management?

he's been hacked, needs a password reset ASAP

 

[snake]

my fuck..
did snake just criticize the management?

he's been hacked, needs a password reset ASAP

No mate, I criticised the coach.

I have been against Strama all this season. He was close to perfect end of last year with what he was trying to achieve...but this year. It's just Raineri all over again.

 

[.h.]

i agree. he's completely different. this man in charge of the club now is not the same manager who we appointed.

 

[snake]

i agree. he's completely different. this man in charge of the club now is not the same manager who we appointed.

Yep, when he came in as the youthful coach who wanted to play attacking football, it was all sunshine and lollipops.

However now you can say he's Rainieri'd on our parade.


:troll:

 

[.h.]

we didnt exactly do brilliantly under him last season, but we had good expressive football, and clear defensive issues as well as sproblems with the ball in the midfield. we've, in the last few months, addressed those issues. dont see why he cant go back to those formations.

what i would like to see is an attempt back to the 4-2-3-1... losing to the worst side in the league gives you a hint that maybe something needs to change

 

[Cal]

All we need is a formation change?

What am I reading. This isn't a computer game. Our problems are much more underlying. We have zero structure, zero movement and zero forward progression.

No mate, I criticised the coach.

I have been against Strama all this season. He was close to perfect end of last year with what he was trying to achieve...but this year. It's just Raineri all over again.

:thumbsup:

 

[.:42:.]

Well said. That, in a nutshell, is our biggest weakness as a club. We just don't have patience. The first time Moratti showed enough patience in a manager, he delivered us 3 Scudetti and started one of our most glorious era's.

This Siena defeat is probably our worst in Strama's time here. Hopefully he will now change some things. But I have no doubt that the road ahead is full of such bumps, whether its Strama or anyone else leading us. Our spending power is nothing like it used to be, so the rebuilding process will be that much slower and more painful.

We need patience. More than anything else.

To be honest I feel where you are coming from. I get your arguments and you are right.

Yet I want to say patience isn't everything. You can have patience when in general the trend goes up. I am too against early fire, but it would be also fatal to stick with the wrong person too long. Just time alone isn't the answer when the man at the stearing is the wrong one.

I don't say that Stram may be the wrong one I just want to say that just giving somebody time isn't right either. And cause you mentioned Mancini. He got time, yet do you remember why he isn't our coach anymore?

I think there was no reason for this 352 even before the transfers, now it is pretty much obsolete. We have players and can play various formations which suits us way more. I hope he doesn't stick with this 352, cause that would mean he is very stubborn. And the club is bigger. A coach should try to get the best out of his team, not force everyone to play roles where they doesn't fit only so he can make a name of himself.

Mourinho got it quite soon yet everyone who followed had one idea and tried everything to make it work at all costs, as if their ego would be bigger as the club himself. As if no coach has any flexibility.

I hope Stram has more than this 352 cause it won't work till his time will end. He practically has no excuse to use this formation anymore. So I hope he will change in the future.
But at least we should give him time till the end of season and than we should make any conclusion. Then we can see where his way is going and if it is worth following it.

 

[David Suazo]

I like Strama, he's one coach I really wanted to see succeed, but come on now. He's been here for nearly a year and he's still changing formation/players every other game. He's still playing with 8 defensive players and we're still leaking goals.

With all that said, he should stay 'til the end of the season and then Moratti and Branca should do what they have failed terribly at, and the whole reason we're in this mess: Find a coach that can use the squad we've got, and then support him with the players he want. I don't want to see a new coach that has no use for Kovacic like what happened to Sneijder with Gasperini, Ranieri and now Stramaccioni.

 

[shingayi]

http://translate.googleusercontent....=73394&usg=ALkJrhifkPnIHBmxVtHS6gMOlF-5HBdP-A

Good article. I do agree with most of the facts the author pointed out.

 

[ZeruTituli]

Agree with Browha. Time for 4-2-3-1.

--------------------Handanovic
Zanetti--Rannocchia--Juan Jesus - Nagatomo
----------Kuzmanovic--Cambiasso
Schelotto---Guarin/Kovacic----------Cassano
---------------------Milito

That is a side with transition and movement. Fullbacks who can attack, Kuz who can get forward, Guarin who will put in a shift, Cassano who will come inside, centrebacks comfortable on the ball. None of this static, sterile nonsense.

Alvarez, Obi and Benassi must be given more game time too. This YOUTH nonsense is getting out of hand. Either play youth or dont and quit pretending.

 

[.h.]

It's stramas favourite formation, we have the players for it... why the hell not...?

 

[Cal]

The idea of Cassano on the wing, and Schelotto starting puts me off of 4231 but needless to say beats this 7-1-2 shit

 

[.h.]

cassano at 'LW' like that isnt far off what he does at the moment, though. He drifts out wide left alot already. Just dont expect the defensive aspect from him that we got out of someone like Pandev.

Schelotto starting there is probably not a disaster, I dunno. I feel like, freed of his defensive duties, he could do the job - but of course thats conjecture at the moment. If not him, we need Palacio to work hard and cover that role - he has the stamina to run the 90 minutes, but given how invisible he can be I'm not sure its a great idea.

 

[shingayi]

Playing three at the back is pointless considering the fact we propably have the worst wings comparing 6 top teams in the league.

Nagatomo - out of form, in normal team should already be benched
Zanetti - well, as RB is ok, his defensive skills were never questioned. As RWB - not so sure, doesn't offer much in attack
Pereira - sucks ass
Schelotto - not Inter material, maybe as sub
Jonathan - sucks ass

The sooner Strama realizes it, sooner we will start collecting points again. Switching to back four should be the first step to bring back some normality.

 

[Cal]

cassano at 'LW' like that isnt far off what he does at the moment, though. He drifts out wide left alot already. Just dont expect the defensive aspect from him that we got out of someone like Pandev.

Schelotto starting there is probably not a disaster, I dunno. I feel like, freed of his defensive duties, he could do the job - but of course thats conjecture at the moment. If not him, we need Palacio to work hard and cover that role - he has the stamina to run the 90 minutes, but given how invisible he can be I'm not sure its a great idea.

He could play there is the same way that Totti was LW with zeman, but in a 4231 as you said he wont defend AT ALL, and if he did he's be finished after 30 mins. Imo 4321 with non troll CMs suits us best.


Would rather Alvarez played than Schelotto personally.

 

[.h.]

dunno how i'd cope with Alvarez on the right wing to be honest. I just dont think he has the mobility as a winger, and his skillset is a bit too inconsistent to deliver as a CM or anything else. The best position arguably is an AMC, but he's not consistent/creative enough to handle it reliably.

4-3-2-1 i can get behind, too, to be honest. Cambiasso Guarin Kudzmanovic. Maybe we play Kovacic as one of the 2, sitting as an inside wing forward?

Thinking Christmas tree formation, tbh.

 

[Cal]

Was thinking

------------Palacio
-----Cassano-----Alvarez/Kova

---Kova/Kuz---Cambiasso----Guarin

Naga----Juan-----Rano--------JZ

--------------Handa


With Cambiasso as pure DM. Too attacking probably but w/e