Antonio Conte

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If we drop points to Atalanta then this thing officially is in a full-blown tailspin. Sackable form. If he scrapes 3 points then maybe we can salvage the season.

I hope we'll all be wearing our seatbelts.
 

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Atalanta surely want to bounce back from the 5-0. They would be licking their paws.
 

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This is true, but hardly likely we will win two in a row.

Unless Gladbach drop points against Shakhtar, we're going to need two wins in the last two matches even if we win against Real. We would need a crazy 3-3 (or higher) draw for one point to be enough against Gladbach.
 

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This is true, but hardly likely we will win two in a row.

This would be the ultimate failure we should be able to get 6 points against Gladbach and Shakhtar, like seriously if ti means we get through wit 6 points from these two games theere is no if s and buts we need to win it and everything else is a huge failure.

(not saying i m confident we will win)
 

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Sacking him at this point doesn't make any sense I'm afraid.

Better to let him finish out the season and let the chips fall where they may. If we don't see a net improvement from last season, let him go and bring in a promising low-cost option:

I think we can manage to offer someone like De Zerbi a 1.5mil contract while paying Conte for a year. It would be a risk, but one with a potentially big upside. I genuinely hope the situation doesn't come to that, but we'll see.

I've been very disappointed in Conte so far this year-- let's see how it plays out.
 

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I am sick of him and his cowardice tactics. You turn the match around, you have the momentum, Real have barely done anything in the second half, and you take off your best player for shitty Gagliardini in order to get the draw?!!! GTFO!!!

Enough is enough. If we don't win at Bergamo i want him gone.

A win away from home against Atalanta is something which is more than difficult. It's not impossible, but it's definitely something between difficult and impossible for us.

Liverpool managed to smash them, but we are far from that level so I would gladly take a point there.
 

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Sacking him at this point doesn't make any sense I'm afraid.

Better to let him finish out the season and let the chips fall where they may. If we don't see a net improvement from last season, let him go and bring in a promising low-cost option:

I think we can manage to offer someone like De Zerbi a 1.5mil contract while paying Conte for a year. It would be a risk, but one with a potentially big upside. I genuinely hope the situation doesn't come to that, but we'll see.

I've been very disappointed in Conte so far this year-- let's see how it plays out.

I wholeheartedly disagree.

I'm not saying that we're the greatest team that has ever walked the face of the earth, but with the investment we've given Conte thus far, the fact that he's had than a year to 'perfect' his gameplan, with Juventus being weaker than they have the last decade, other competitors not really on our level on paper.... there's absolutely no excuse to not win the league. This is now or never. If we win, we destabilize Juventus' iron grip on the league, and make a big statement that will resonate through Europa.

If we don't, Juventus walks it yet again, and strengthen their team even more next year, and we're stuck paying Conte 12 million a year just to get us the same results Spalletti did.

We can't really afford to lose points at the pace we're doing, but with that being said, the league is only six games old. Still, we're almost in total freefall, and we're also about to crash out of the Champions League not having won one single game, which, given our budget and aspirations, is perhaps an even bigger fiasco.

The point is, there's no time to waste. Whatever happens against Atalanta, the only option I see (if the Zhangs are serious about this project), is to get rid of Conte and bring Allegri onboard. He's a much better coach - more adaptable, more flexible, much, much better on the fly during games, and he can deliver in Europe as well. De Zerbi could well turn out to be a De Boer, and now is not the time for experiments. It's either "get one of the best coaches in Europa (certainly the best that's available)" "or falter completely with Conte because of wage issues and face the fact that we got nowhere these last two years".

Paying three wages (Spalletti's almost up AFAIK) shouldn't be a problem when you're a Chinese conglomerate, and the hypothetical sucess we'd get under Allegri would more than offset paying Conte to stay at home.

As of now, we'd be doing more damage keeping a clearly disinterested and unmotivated Gobbo as the head of this club. It's time to strike while the iron is hot, or just wave the white flag after 9 matches.
 
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I'm not much of a Conte fan, but sacking him would be some dumb shit.
 

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A win away from home against Atalanta is something which is more than difficult. It's not impossible, but it's definitely something between difficult and impossible for us.

Liverpool managed to smash them, but we are far from that level so I would gladly take a point there.

They aren't as good as they were last season and we need to make up for the dropped points. All in all, a draw at Bergamo would be a positive result but in our situation we need to win. 3 wins in 10 matches would simply be unacceptable.
 

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I wholeheartedly disagree.

I'm not saying that we're the greatest team that has ever walked the face of the earth, but with the investment we've given Conte thus far, the fact that he's had than a year to 'perfect' his gameplan, with Juventus being weaker than they have the last decade, other competitors not really on our level on paper.... there's absolutely no excuse to not win the league. This is now or never. If we win, we destabilize Juventus' iron grip on the league, and make a big statement that will resonate through Europa.

If we don't, Juventus walks it yet again, and strengthen their team even more next year, and we're stuck paying Conte 12 million a year just to get us the same results Spalletti did.

We can't really afford to lose points at the pace we're doing, but with that being said, the league is only six games old. Still, we're almost in total free fall, and we're also about to crash out of the Champions League not having won one single game, which, given our budget, is perhaps an even bigger fiasco.

The point is, there's no time to waste. Whatever happens against Atalanta, the only option I see (if the Zhangs are serious about this project), is to get rid of Conte and bring Allegri onboard. He's a much better coach - more adaptable, more flexible, much, much better on the fly, and he can deliver in Europe as well. De Zerbi could well turn out to be a De Boer, and now is not the time for experiments. It's either "get one of the best coaches in Europa (certainly the best that's available)" "or falter completely with Conte because of wage issues and face the fact that we got nowhere these last two years".

Paying three wages (Spalletti's almost up AFAIK) shouldn't be a problem when your a Chinese conglomerate, and the hypothetical sucess we'd get under Allegri would more than offset paying Conte to stay at home.

As of now, we'd be doing more damage keeping a clearly disinterested and unmotivated Gobbo as the head of this club. It's time to strike while the iron is hot, or just wave the white flag after 9 matches.

I fail to see how changing the coach in the beginning of the season will change our fortunes. Going after Allegri right now would just be locking ourselves down to another Gobbo coach on high wages (I was in favor of getting him in the summer btw). It's too impulsive. Too inter.

I don't think the mentality should be "win this year or we'll never win again." Obviously, given the squad we have and the conditions of the other teams, we SHOULD win this year. It will be a failure if Conte doesn't win the league but let's not pretend there's another serie A club that's head and shoulders above the rest right now.

We made a decision to stick with Conte this year (probably the wrong choice as things stand) and we have to see it through. The squad is built for him. He needs to deliver. Could Allegri do better with the same squad? Maybe, but we'll realistically need another window to satisfy the demands of a new coach as we're built rather a-typically.

The only scenario in which we change coaches mid-season is if he completely loses the locker-room, which hasn't quite happened yet.
 

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I'll just summarize that Conte has done many improvements at Inter, but he's done one particular deadly mistake which might single-handedly sink Inter's ship this year. The moment he's decided to get rid of Godin and Skriniar we've instantly gone down hill. We've been leaking goals so bad that our only way to win is score more than our opponent.

Our attacking game has improved drastically over Spalletti and I don't agree with the majority here regarding that. The defense, however, might end Conte's career here and unfortunately I think that it's too late to fix it since we're gonna have to keep leaking goals and points until January's transfer market. In short, Conte is the only person to blame because I believe that he's the one with the silly idea of dropping Godin and Skriniar.
 

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Our attacking game has improved drastically over Spalletti and I don't agree with the majority here regarding that.

We've literally spent almost $200 million in players and salaries on offensive players for Conte. Spalletti's team was so shallow that he had to resort to Ranocchia in attack on multiple occasions. Our attack hasn't improved. We've simply gotten better players.

I swear people here rushing to defend Conte are ignoring the fact that management has spent almost $400 million on players to appease this guy.
 

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This year the squad is better but performances have been worse. Also imo the tactics have changed. Defence is leaking. Attacking play is more diverse but not efficient.

All of this mess and Conte has been weirdly very calm.

I doubt Conte can turn this around and I am eager to see how this will end.
 

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This year the squad is better but performances have been worse. Also imo the tactics have changed. Defence is leaking. Attacking play is more diverse but not efficient.

All of this mess and Conte has been weirdly very calm.

I doubt Conte can turn this around and I am eager to see how this will end.

Our midfield is better, attacking department still same.

The defense are declining, Last year we had Skriniar, Ranocchia, and D'ambrosio as backup.

World class defense with Godin, De Vrij, and Bastoni. We sell starting line up defender for Kolarov and Gambling with Skriniar. The result is clear.

I was remember when Bonucci sold to Milan, Rube defense start to decline. Same as Inter when they sell Godin. Same CEO, Same energy.
 

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I'm not much of a Conte fan, but sacking him would be some dumb shit.

If the club can afford it then we should do it by all means as allegri is a much better coach, dude brought juve to the finals twice on top of the scudetti he won with both Milan and juve; that should speak volume on how much better he is than this fraud whos never brought any team to CL semi finals, let alone final.

I sincerely hope that financial is the only reason holding the management to sack this guy because its obvious he doesn't have what it takes to bring us to the next level.
 

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A win away from home against Atalanta is something which is more than difficult. It's not impossible, but it's definitely something between difficult and impossible for us.

Liverpool managed to smash them, but we are far from that level so I would gladly take a point there.

Like I said in the match thread, biggest issue @ Atalanta is atmosphere. No fans = no atmosphere. Definitely a different proposition now. They're also not as good as last season, particularly with ilicic still out of form.
 

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All true, but the most significant factor is that we can't defend to save our lives. 2 clean sheets in 9 games :awyeah::awyeah::awyeah:
 

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Personally, I feel that Suning have overestimated Conte's coaching ability. I also think this squad does not have a hope in hell in winning anything. Some posters on here keep talking about how our squad has greatly improved from last season. But has it really? Regarding the players that were not here last season, Kolorov arrived ten years too late, Naingollan is totally disinterested and longs for Sardinia, Hakimi has Interitis, Vidal interchanges between being capable and being a liability, Perisic is playing out of position and Pinamonti is just a name on the subs bench in whom our coach has little to no faith. Essentially, Conte and Suning tinkered around the edges of our squad and added a lot of fluff with very little substance.

Defences wins championships. We simply do not know how to defend and Conte has absolutely no inclination to change formation or try something different because he is worried about his pride and how it might look if he has to shelve his beloved 3-5-2 or whatever ineffective variation thereof that we are playing.

Saying that we are obliged to win Serie A because of our squad depth and because every other team is shit is a joke. I do not see things improving to the extent that we can sustain a push for the championship or make our way out of the group stages of the Champions League. Too many things are wrong and our performances are much too disjointed for us to have expectations of anything better than a top four finish.
 
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