Beppe Marotta

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This dude.


For all the shit he took for not making a bigger push for Morata and getting Arnau instead he must be feeling pretty great.
 

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Getting Morata probably means no Pavard or no Frattesi, so I think we've been happy with our choice for a while now
 

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I'm not sure what better we would have taken than Arnautivic for that price?
Maybe Zapata, but I think Torino's option is 10 mln, so Atalanta definitely would have asked for at least 15 mln from us.
 

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I'm not sure what better we would have taken than Arnautivic for that price?
Maybe Zapata, but I think Torino's option is 10 mln, so Atalanta definitely would have asked for at least 15 mln from us.
Jovic, Joselu, or simply keep Dzeko with that money.

But if you keep excuses or assumptions like "that wouldn't be the same if Inter", then pointless to discuss. Coz we never approach them irl so man can invent any reasoning to defend for bad transfers.
 

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Jovic, Joselu, or simply keep Dzeko with that money.

But if you keep excuses or assumptions like "that wouldn't be the same if Inter", then pointless to discuss. Coz we never approach them irl so man can invent any reasoning to defend for bad transfers.
Jovic is ain't better especially for our style. Dzeko?! People wanted him to leave, and now want him back? Based on what? Some goals in Turkey?
 

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Jovic is ain't better especially for our style. Dzeko?! People wanted him to leave, and now want him back? Based on what? Some goals in Turkey?
There are many members on a forum, mate. I dunno what ppl preferred 10m Arnau to keeping Dzeko.

See? Whatever names on the dish you gonna reject for reason abc. Style, location, then blame the weather or what?

Your intention is only to defend Arnau. Ignoring the fact that the Bosnian is old af but still contributing ~20 goals the season prior.
 

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There are many members on a forum, mate. I dunno what ppl preferred 10m Arnau to keeping Dzeko.

See? Whatever names on the dish you gonna reject for reason abc. Style, location, then blame the weather or what?

Your intention is only to defend Arnau. Ignoring the fact that the Bosnian is old af but still contributing ~20 goals the season prior.
We saw him last season. He was already very slow overall. Touching the ball, passing, everything, and i'm not a Dzeko hater at all. I suggested to sell Icardi and get him instead, after his abyssal first season at Roma. But, he is done for such a high level and he was right to go to a lower league like Turkey. Arnautivic has never never been a better player even in his dreams, but he is better physically right now. He offers good overall contribution, and his biggest weakness so far is the wasting of those sitters.
 

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We saw him last season. He was already very slow overall. Touching the ball, passing, everything, and i'm not a Dzeko hater at all. I suggested to sell Icardi and get him instead, after his abyssal first season at Roma. But, he is done for such a high level and he was right to go to a lower league like Turkey. Arnautivic has never never been a better player even in his dreams, but he is better physically right now. He offers good overall contribution, and his biggest weakness so far is the wasting of those sitters.
Dzeko is slow but Arnau is not faster. Dzeko missed sitters too but he could score sublime goals to compensate. While I almost smashed my remote control when Arnau almost missed that empty net. Let's agree to disagree here.
 

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Arnautovic has been better than Dzeko at everything except scoring... which is kinda important for a CF.
 

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Dzeko is slow but Arnau is not faster. Dzeko missed sitters too but he could score sublime goals to compensate. While I almost smashed my remote control when Arnau almost missed that empty net. Let's agree to disagree here.
I mean that he is slow not only as pure speed but in everything. Sometimes when he stopped the ball, he was so slow to handle it that the defender just blocked it. Arnautivic is still not there. Dzeko also missed some clear chances but I'm agree that he is a better finisher.
 

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Jovic, Joselu, or simply keep Dzeko with that money.

Just for context, Joselu on loan to Madrid was confirmed like five minutes after the La Liga season ended last year. He's also a former Madrid academy product. I know you're just naming names and I agree with your broader point...Joselu was never an option.
 

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Arnautovic has been better than Dzeko at everything except scoring... which is kinda important for a CF.
Arna is so much better than prick Dzeko who couldn't run!
If we had Arna instead of turtle Dzeko maybe we would have been won one scudetto
 

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Dzeko was very good for 4 months, he got exchausted because Correa and Lukaku were pathetic and unfit.

When he was rotated more in the last part of the last season he was fine for his role.

Arnautovic isn't the "personality" Dzeko is, nor can he impose himself in that matter. But he's part of the team and we're rooting for him.
 

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Jokes aside i would be interested to see a poll in regard to the perceived influence Marotta has on the Lega/Serie A federation and hence the referees.

Me personally i think it has been a huge factor.
Not admitting that this year all the 50:50 decisions ( even 45:55) for that matter have been pro us it would not be fair. Especially from a fan base that has been accusing Juve for that for decades
 

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Jokes aside i would be interested to see a poll in regard to the perceived influence Marotta has on the Lega/Serie A federation and hence the referees.

Me personally i think it has been a huge factor.
Not admitting that this year all the 50:50 decisions ( even 45:55) for that matter have been pro us it would not be fair. Especially from a fan base that has been accusing Juve for that for decades

No, we were accusing Juventus of getting whistles where the decision called for them should have been 0:100 against them...
 

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No, we were accusing Juventus of getting whistles where the decision called for them should have been 0:100 against them...
Completely unrelated, but I'm curious to hear your current take on Marotta. You used to argue that his Scudetto under Conte wasn't impressive due to the amount of money spent on the likes of Lukaku, Barella, Hakimi, etc. These past couple years he's had a signfiicantly smaller budget and had to make some key sales. He assembled the most dominant Italian team in a decade. Has your opinion on him changed?
 

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Completely unrelated, but I'm curious to hear your current take on Marotta. You used to argue that his Scudetto under Conte wasn't impressive due to the amount of money spent on the likes of Lukaku, Barella, Hakimi, etc. These past couple years he's had a signfiicantly smaller budget and had to make some key sales. He assembled the most dominant Italian team in a decade. Has your opinion on him changed?
My opinion on him was that he was always a strong director but people overrated him and it infuriated me because they pretended as if the gobbi weren't cheating for 10 years running after they moved to the new stadium (and couldn't clinch in their final year of cheating).

Marotta didn't win those Scudetti. Agnelli and FIGC did and the collapse of Inter and Milan helped a lot.

What Marotta did was build on that and helped create a strong team in Europe that reached the CL final twice.

At Inter what's been done is of course commendable but I still don't like his ways.

Inter has always been a "family" for players. There's a reason why Adani, a born and raised Milanista, had become and still is a token Inter fan after spending 2 years as a backup center back.

The club is beyond people and that's why this still happens a lot, but with the Chinese and Marotta we're losing this and treat them all like commodities.

I'm not against the guy, I'm just sometimes against his management style. It works to a large degree, but just like someone will complain that Darmian starts over Dumfries, I can complain that he's not extending the contracts of players that needed it (Brozovic earlier, De Vrij, Skriniar) and then pretends that it's all good.


He's part of the club and a very important piece, that's undeniable. But I'm not sure to the extent of the merit he's receiving. He's been bailed by Ausilio (who he wanted to sack), bailed by Simone Inzaghi (who he also considered sacking end of last season and bailed by Hakan and Lautaro who stepped up big time - we can give credit that they believed in them of course - but on a pragmatic level what we've seen from these two, without a proper backup, is just insane.

But sure, working with limited resources and so many people to deal with isn't easy and he's manning the ship to win another Scudetto and hopefully another deep CL run.
 
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