English Premier League 2015/2016

Who will win the league?


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How many times do I need to say Dier was dirty? And I was only talking about the tackles, i.e. Spurs' on-field behavior. Not eye-gouging or pushing.

Hiddink is an older gentleman and people should treat him with respect and be more careful, even though I don't really mind when young people, i.e. players get a bit combative. But the one who did it should be ashamed. And come out and admit it.

Spurs are getting stick for overall package, not just tackles. So it's not a faux outrage.

Hopefully they will be back to where they belong next season.

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Thats what I mean. Toure is gone and hes a rock (less so last few months but in general).... With Laporte coming in who knows what that means for Kompany. Probably still first team starter and Captain, but its potentially quite disruptive...

We'll just have to see. I think City could take a while to settle, to be honest...

With Utd its so open at the moment. Theyre not so far from being able to compete for the league, but is it just a managerial change away? I would argue that you need a new striker, maybe a midfielder and a CB/RB... But things could change if, for example, Depay is sold this summer, even though he hasnt been great lately I do think he's still a good player

IMO managerial change will fix lot of our problems. Darmian started so well and had near perfect games then he was Van Gaaled. Played with 0 confidence.

Hopefully we appoint Jose, he can fix this.
 

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Well done. Grande Ranieri.
 

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Spurs are getting stick for overall package, not just tackles. So it's not a faux outrage.

Hopefully they will be back to where they belong next season.

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IMO managerial change will fix lot of our problems. Darmian started so well and had near perfect games then he was Van Gaaled. Played with 0 confidence.

Hopefully we appoint Jose, he can fix this.

For two years :p
 

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Just seeing the celebrations and Ranieri's interview. What a nice guy.

Probably won't see an upset of this magnitude again for a long long time.
 

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Ramirez got a nasty injury. Ouch.
 

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Good to see Middlesborough back in the Premier League, but damn that Ramirez injury is nasty :yao:

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With a mid-low level team winning the whole thing, the ridiculous top level coaching talent throughout the league, and tons of talented players on mid table teams (like Payet, shaq, e.t.c.), EPL is set to continue to be light years ahead of other leagues revenue-wise.

Don't be surprised with the coaching upgrades that they begin to perform better in CL. Just this season, they got Klopp, Bilic, Sanches-Flores, Guidolin. Pep and Conte next season already confirmed. Already have Van Gaal, Pochettino,Wenger, Koeman. Jose potentially. That's a lot of good coaches concentrated in one league.

More talented players will be drawn to the Stoke's, Southampton's, West Ham's of the world thinking that, with the talented coaching pool and what Leicester just did, they can actually win the league. And because all the clubs have money, the players aren't sacrificing financially either.

The free coverage this Leicester win has got the EPL is ridiculous. EPL has just attracted up tens of millions of new fans. Guarantee that the next round of TV rights will be beyond astronomical and with networks like beIN pushing the envelope with $$, and EPLs 'fairness' in revenue split, means they've effectively left leagues like Serie A in the dust.

Sucks to be Serie A right now tbh.
 

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Good to see Middlesborough back in the Premier League, but damn that Ramirez injury is nasty :yao:

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Ouch!

It reminds me of the injury Ewald Lienen had back in the days.
 

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Don't be surprised with the coaching upgrades that they begin to perform better in CL. Just this season, they got Klopp, Bilic, Sanches-Flores, Guidolin. Pep and Conte next season already confirmed. Already have Van Gaal, Pochettino,Wenger, Koeman. Jose potentially. That's a lot of good coaches concentrated in one league.

More talented players will be drawn to the Stoke's, Southampton's, West Ham's of the world thinking that, with the talented coaching pool and what Leicester just did, they can actually win the league. And because all the clubs have money, the players aren't sacrificing financially either.

I think the fact that teams like Stoke, Southampton, West Ham can buy class players may have a negative effect on the performance of EPL teams in CL because there are no games top teams "can take easy", try things out or give their starters a rest. For exemple: Bayern can start every second game with their "second" team or a new formation and the chance of winning is 90%.

For me one of the main reasons EPL was so strong some years ago was that they had 4 top teams pushing each other and then a solid but not really competitive "foundation" in the league.
 

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With a mid-low level team winning the whole thing, the ridiculous top level coaching talent throughout the league, and tons of talented players on mid table teams (like Payet, shaq, e.t.c.), EPL is set to continue to be light years ahead of other leagues revenue-wise.

Don't be surprised with the coaching upgrades that they begin to perform better in CL. Just this season, they got Klopp, Bilic, Sanches-Flores, Guidolin. Pep and Conte next season already confirmed. Already have Van Gaal, Pochettino,Wenger, Koeman. Jose potentially. That's a lot of good coaches concentrated in one league.

More talented players will be drawn to the Stoke's, Southampton's, West Ham's of the world thinking that, with the talented coaching pool and what Leicester just did, they can actually win the league. And because all the clubs have money, the players aren't sacrificing financially either.

The free coverage this Leicester win has got the EPL is ridiculous. EPL has just attracted up tens of millions of new fans. Guarantee that the next round of TV rights will be beyond astronomical and with networks like beIN pushing the envelope with $$, and EPLs 'fairness' in revenue split, means they've effectively left leagues like Serie A in the dust.

Sucks to be Serie A right now tbh.
Nah, Leicester winning the league is a good story, but it's really an embarrassment. You would be saying the exact opposite about how serie a is the worst league in Europe if capri won it. Don't try twist leicester winning the pl is some how a Sign of its strength.
 

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What's the seeding for the English teams next season in UCL?
 

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With a mid-low level team winning the whole thing, the ridiculous top level coaching talent throughout the league, and tons of talented players on mid table teams (like Payet, shaq, e.t.c.), EPL is set to continue to be light years ahead of other leagues revenue-wise.

Don't be surprised with the coaching upgrades that they begin to perform better in CL. Just this season, they got Klopp, Bilic, Sanches-Flores, Guidolin. Pep and Conte next season already confirmed. Already have Van Gaal, Pochettino,Wenger, Koeman. Jose potentially. That's a lot of good coaches concentrated in one league.

More talented players will be drawn to the Stoke's, Southampton's, West Ham's of the world thinking that, with the talented coaching pool and what Leicester just did, they can actually win the league. And because all the clubs have money, the players aren't sacrificing financially either.

The free coverage this Leicester win has got the EPL is ridiculous. EPL has just attracted up tens of millions of new fans. Guarantee that the next round of TV rights will be beyond astronomical and with networks like beIN pushing the envelope with $$, and EPLs 'fairness' in revenue split, means they've effectively left leagues like Serie A in the dust.

Sucks to be Serie A right now tbh.

I'm going to agree with this post.

I don't know much about the financial and economical details and changes in the EPL, but looking at them from a business point of view I can see that the EPL has been going to right direction in recent years. I think that the EPL is going through a transition phase. Top teams are no longer top teams and small teams are no longer small ones. This is not pure coincidence; those small teams didn't just become rich and competitive for no reason. Serie A seriously need to head to that direction. I think the German league is going through the same phase.

Serie A has been a complete joke in the past 10 years. It has been dominated solely by Inter and Juve. Both those dominating teams aren't even top clubs in Europe anymore. This speaks alot about Serie A in addition to the financial fall of clubs like Parma, Lazio and Fiorentina. It's also a joke that the top clubs in Serie A can't even build a a stadium. They need to take lessons from the EPL and the German league.

Moreover, most EPL and German clubs buy and attract players that most top-half clubs in Italy can't even dream of. This wasn't the case 15 years ago.

Nah, Leicester winning the league is a good story, but it's really an embarrassment. You would be saying the exact opposite about how serie a is the worst league in Europe if capri won it. Don't try twist leicester winning the pl is some how a Sign of its strength.

If Carpi wins Serie A while getting fair financial resources and rights from the league then yes it's a good sign.

Serie A was by far the best league in the world when teams like Fiorentina, Sampdoria, Napoli, Lazio and Parma were competing and winning the league. It was a competitive league with atleast 7 top quality clubs which was one of the reasons why Serie A had the best players in the world scattered among these clubs. Once these clubs were destroyed financially, Serie A started to fall down.
 

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It's all in the marketing. Just look and compare Inter vs Empoli and Leicester vs Everton.

I'm not talking about the players, or the entertainment, or the plays.

But the commentators that sound like they give a fuck. The stadiums. The crowds. The fans. The music. Everything.

I can go on and on about how EPL has brilliantly succeeded to be marketed as the best league in the world even compared to the much more trophy-laden La Liga. But there is just no fight when it comes to popularity. EPL wins the battle hands down.
 

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Just realized the Man Utd have a serious chance of finishing fourth ahead of City. If they win today against West Ham you would fancy them to get the job done against Bournemouth. Pep in EL would be funny.
 

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Just realized the Man Utd have a serious chance of finishing fourth ahead of City. If they win today against West Ham you would fancy them to get the job done against Bournemouth. Pep in EL would be funny.

When we play him and get our shit fucked.
 

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It's all in the marketing. Just look and compare Inter vs Empoli and Leicester vs Everton.

I'm not talking about the players, or the entertainment, or the plays.

But the commentators that sound like they give a fuck. The stadiums. The crowds. The fans. The music. Everything.

I can go on and on about how EPL has brilliantly succeeded to be marketed as the best league in the world even compared to the much more trophy-laden La Liga. But there is just no fight when it comes to popularity. EPL wins the battle hands down.

Marketing is everything.

Say that you have a restaurant, and you have the best staff and offer the best and highest quality food. How much is it worth without customers? without proper marketing and without making the restaurant more appealing to the customers then you simply have food on the table with no one to eat. You won't get enough income and probably close it down.

It's the same principle in football because it lives entirely on its fans. If you want more income for Italian clubs then you need to fill those stadium the same way in England. Those Italians need to sit down and write down some English notes if they want more money.

I also think that EPL has surpassed La Liga. Without the individual work by Barcelona and Real Madrid then La Liga would be an average league and isn't worth much. EPL is just different. Many English clubs with low history suddenly became European contenders, other than the traditional and historical clubs like Man Utd and Liverpool. Clubs like Chelsea and Man City would never dream of challenging Real Madrid and Barcelona a decade ago. EPL today definitely is not a 2-3 clubs league like other leagues around. All this brings more fans to follow your league (thus more money).
 

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I think the fact that teams like Stoke, Southampton, West Ham can buy class players may have a negative effect on the performance of EPL teams in CL because there are no games top teams "can take easy", try things out or give their starters a rest. For exemple: Bayern can start every second game with their "second" team or a new formation and the chance of winning is 90%.

For me one of the main reasons EPL was so strong some years ago was that they had 4 top teams pushing each other and then a solid but not really competitive "foundation" in the league.

We'll see how much Bayern can do that now that Pep is gone. People really underestimate Pep's influence there but the results going forward will be proof.

Regarding the competitiveness of the EPL, I agree with your sentiment. But I also see the other sides, mainly the more money they have, the deeper their squads can be. And on top of that, fatigue and injuries are mostly cumulative; so the impact will be noticed after mid-season, when teams are already into ko rounds.

Now, I didn't say EPL teams will win CL; just that don't be surprised to see all 4 regularly get into ko rounds. The coaching talent alone is enough to see that in the future.


Nah, Leicester winning the league is a good story, but it's really an embarrassment. You would be saying the exact opposite about how serie a is the worst league in Europe if capri won it. Don't try twist leicester winning the pl is some how a Sign of its strength.

Bro, my major discussion point was around money, not strength of league. However, like I said, the money and coaches there mean in the next few years, you'll start to see the strength of the league improve massively.
 
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