Euro under 21 2013

[javier_zanetti <3]

Yeah good match from our boys. Insigne is superb. Final will be Italy v Spain.. hope I can attend it.

There are no more tickets i think....

 

[Bluenine]

Insigne is class. Was involved in almost every goal threat Italy created.

Donati impressed me more than he ever has... he and Biraghi looked good. Couple of decent young fullbacks coming up for Inter... oh wait, we don't have any need for fullbacks anymore!

Bianchetti looked like the weak link in Inter's defense.. a shaky start by him. Caldirola started a bit nervous, but recovered as the game went on and was his commanding self. Bardi looked confident, but he didn't look 6'2"... he looked littler somehow.

 

[Choppin Onions]

I liked Donati the most out of our players. He's the most experienced of the bunch however so it shouldn't be that great of a surprise. Caldirola was solid as well. Biraghi and Bianchetti perhaps a bit more raw and showing some inexperience at times. Bardi was good but rarely tested. Made that key save at the end though. Insigne and Verratti were unsurprisingly the best players. Both have been called up for the senior team after all.

Borini and England were rubbish.

 

[I4E]

I'm disappointed I missed the game. I'm not surprised that England was rubbish.

 

[monster09]

I'm disappointed I missed the game. I'm not surprised that England was rubbish.

No one would be surprised, at least U21 have some flair players and players who can pass but since they have Pearce as manager you can expect usual rubbish from their U21s too.

Carroll is one of the best passers in the squad (IMO he is the best in the squad) and he was not even in the squad

Insigne was awesome though, at times tried bit too much but he played really well. Does he play regularly for Napoli?

 

[Visca]

Insigne was awesome though, at times tried bit too much but he played really well. Does he play regularly for Napoli?

I think he has played in most games this season, but more as a sub than a starter... but I don't watch Napoli regularly or anything. I like the kid a lot though.

 

[Shaun]

Mazzarri generally preferred Pandev to Insigne

As he values younger players...

 

[Pajo]

He played in 37 games, but started only when Pandev/Cavani/Hamsik were injured or suspended. He never stared infront any of them.Tho being first sub for 3 positions aint bad at all.

 

[monster09]

Never watched him, I mean even when I watched Napoli I never noticed him (maybe he was not playing).

Also heard the RB dude was from Inter, then why the fuck he never played for the first team regularly or even as a sub? I don't know how good he is for the reserves but he looked like a seasoned pro. Tbh whole defense was good and when you hear that whole defense are from Inter and none of them get a chance in the first team, it's so obvious where the problem is.

 

[Visca]

Yeah I agree that if no one else at least Donati could/should be playing for Inter. But all of them could potentially have a future at the club, it's beyond me why they don't get chances & Inter would rather rely on buying mediocre players.

 

[Sassuolu]

You know Napoli is a tough club to play for, there's a lot of pressure on you some young players being tossed in the lion's den immediately does not help their development, I think at Insigne's age having 37 appearance regardless of them being starts or not is a pretty good thing.

Anyway I think England had that headed goal annulled for nothing, I think they were hard done by the referee. But meh shit happened, 5 Inter starters in an Italian national team how weird is that!?

 

[Tanel]

As I said in Mazzarri thread, Insigne was played the right way: balance of what is importnat for future of Insigne and what is important for Napoli now.

Insigne is a great talent, but he showed both sides of his game yesterday. While he can do great stuff with the ball, he also wastes incredible amount of shots. He is definitely better to look at than Pandev, but his effectiveness for the team is not yet of same level, both in terms of what he does with ball in vital positsions as well as what he does defensively and tactically.

 

[interista4]

Never watched him, I mean even when I watched Napoli I never noticed him (maybe he was not playing).

Also heard the RB dude was from Inter, then why the fuck he never played for the first team regularly or even as a sub? I don't know how good he is for the reserves but he looked like a seasoned pro. Tbh whole defense was good and when you hear that whole defense are from Inter and none of them get a chance in the first team, it's so obvious where the problem is.

Yeah whole defense was from Inter and they never ever even gotten a minute there. Doesn't matter how good they will be, as long as they won't be as good as our current players, they will never get a chance. That's quite sad. We have more great talents who are called for the senior team - but they also rarely get chances. Benassi (19 y'o DM) played better the than the likes of Kuz & Deki, yet they were always prefered for the starting line-up. As long as he doesn't score a hatrick coming from the bench in the 85th minute, he ain't gonna start.

Also Duncan who was one of the best DMs in Serie B (promoted with Livorno), will prob be loaned out once again, not that bad considering it might help his career - but I will not be surprised if we screw up on him aswell.

It's not that we don't have great young talents, It's just that we never show enough faith and give them fair chances.

INB4 the experts on here say they don't get enough chances because they're not good enough.....

 

[Visca]

Lack of faith in youth is what really gets me... clubs have a youth system for a reason & I don't necessarily think it's so they can have bargaining chips to buy other players in the future. You can say "hey, we developed these guys on our own, we didn't need to spend an exorbitant amount of money on players to be good". Want to save money, use the youth pool, not try to look for bargains that aren't good enough.

I see it happening to Barca too even. One of the reasons I started supporting them was because of their youth policy that you don't see at a lot of other clubs. But now Thiago might get shipped out because "oops, we put a really low buyout clause on him if he didn't play enough, then didn't tell our coach about it". Bartra never played until there was an injury crisis against Bayern, people say he sucks but what do you expect when he sits on the bench all season & then all of a sudden has to play against the best team in the world right now? And out of form Alves is favored over Montoya. I wouldn't be surprised if even Deulofeu gets wasted & sold in a couple years.

 

[Dylan]

I see it happening to Barca too even. One of the reasons I started supporting them was because of their youth policy that you don't see at a lot of other clubs. But now Thiago might get shipped out because "oops, we put a really low buyout clause on him if he didn't play enough, then didn't tell our coach about it". Bartra never played until there was an injury crisis against Bayern, people say he sucks but what do you expect when he sits on the bench all season & then all of a sudden has to play against the best team in the world right now? And out of form Alves is favored over Montoya. I wouldn't be surprised if even Deulofeu gets wasted & sold in a couple years.

On the other hand though, if you're at the top can you really afford to spend time developing Thiago and Deulofeu when you're competition is that close? Doesn't that mean if you want to stay at the top you need to sign your Fabregas's and Sanchez's?

 

[Sassuolu]

Lack of faith in youth is what really gets me... clubs have a youth system for a reason & I don't necessarily think it's so they can have bargaining chips to buy other players in the future. You can say "hey, we developed these guys on our own, we didn't need to spend an exorbitant amount of money on players to be good". Want to save money, use the youth pool, not try to look for bargains that aren't good enough.

I see it happening to Barca too even. One of the reasons I started supporting them was because of their youth policy that you don't see at a lot of other clubs. But now Thiago might get shipped out because "oops, we put a really low buyout clause on him if he didn't play enough, then didn't tell our coach about it". Bartra never played until there was an injury crisis against Bayern, people say he sucks but what do you expect when he sits on the bench all season & then all of a sudden has to play against the best team in the world right now? And out of form Alves is favored over Montoya. I wouldn't be surprised if even Deulofeu gets wasted & sold in a couple years.

You know I think players developed by Barca are leaving because Barca is now one of the best teams in the world and it's tough to break into that team, when Xavi and Iniesta started out Barcelona weren't as good as they were right now so there's that need to keep getting top players in rather than using homegrown players.

 

[Visca]

I agree that buying is necessary (always has been) but I feel there should be a balance. I mean Tito actually said if he can't get his CB target list that he'd rather use Adriano at CB (who has been proven to suck in that position) than Bartra. So it's not even about buying people to replace youth, it's also about forcing other players to play out of position for some reason to keep from playing a young player. Also, re: Thiago, I think he has more potential & fits the system better than Cesc. Just because we have been successful & can/should get some big names doesn't mean we throw the youth project out the window.

PS: to relate to the topic, Thiago had a great game for Spain U21's today.

 

[wicked wizard]

i cant see thiago going tbh, for me hes got a lot more potential than cesc and xavi is getting on a bit now so they will ease him in to the team. if i could pick one young player in the world for inter it would have to be him

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i cant see thiago going tbh, for me hes got a lot more potential than cesc and xavi is getting on a bit now so they will ease him in to the team. if i could pick one young player in the world for inter it would have to be him

 

[Native]

What a wonderful game against Germany. Except for the second half.

 

[Bluenine]

Never watched him, I mean even when I watched Napoli I never noticed him (maybe he was not playing).

Also heard the RB dude was from Inter, then why the fuck he never played for the first team regularly or even as a sub? I don't know how good he is for the reserves but he looked like a seasoned pro. Tbh whole defense was good and when you hear that whole defense are from Inter and none of them get a chance in the first team, it's so obvious where the problem is.

To be fair, what Inter are doing so far with these kids is the right way... all of them were on loan last season, where most of them saw regular action.

- Bardi would be useless at Inter right now, he is better off on loan where he gets to play. This kid could offer us a viable alternative if we sell Handanovic in a year or two.

- Biraghi may not have seen much action at Inter last season, with Nagatomo and Pereira, and his loan move is what developed his game. He is almost ready for a team like Inter. Strama had mentioned him as a potential solution for next season. But unfortunately we don't need a LB of his characteristics now with Mazzarri. Maybe a loan / co-own deal is the best option, I wouldn't sell him coz his value will only increase. IMO he has the potential to become a future Azzurri player.

- Caldirola IMO is now ready for Inter senior team. We should recall him. Again, Serie B experience has proved vital for his development.

- Donati, he never looked anything special - only now he is showing signs of a potential quality player. But again, Mazzarri will probably will go for a more attacking wingback, than him at Inter.

- Bianchetti, he is the weakest of the bunch IMO. Perhaps we can get some money for him now, if he shines at U21, or use him as a deal sweetener for a proper target.

Loaning out kids has its uses, it has helped in other cases as well like Duncan. With the experience they gain at Serie B, they have a better chance to get minutes at Inter. Some of them hopefully will (Duncan & Caldirola), while others will have done no harm to their market potential.

My problem with Inter is what usually happens after such loan moves. If we don't get Duncan & Caldirola back, and use them as deal sweeteners to get other players, than I will be pissed.