Francesco Acerbi

[Nerazzurri00]

Does Juan Jesus have any proof? Can it be interpreted from a video?

No. It cant be proven at all, how are they going to proove that he said "negro", hire a lip reader and zoom onto Acerbi? That's not how it works, Acerbi can deny this so easily by just mentioning another rhyming word. The thing is, he is in trouble of how this "racism movement" got so out of control that an x type of skin person/people no other than white, can have the social power to accuse you of being racist if they wanted to even though you were innocent. Everyone is going to side with them, especially the media and the hungry attention seeking journalists.

I think they will penalize Acerbi and/or suspend him, I dont think JJ would lie about it, but the point i try to make it is that they cant prove it from a video whether he said it or not.

 

[.h.]

No. It cant be proven at all, how are they going to proove that he said "negro", hire a lip reader and zoom onto Acerbi? That's not how it works, Acerbi can deny this so easily by just mentioning another rhyming word. The thing is, he is in trouble of how this "racism movement" got so out of control that an x type of skin person/people no other than white, can have the social power to accuse you of being racist if they wanted to even though you were innocent. Everyone is going to side with them, especially the media and the hungry attention seeking journalists.

I think they will penalize Acerbi and/or suspend him, I dont think JJ would lie about it, but the point i try to make it is that they cant prove it from a video whether he said it or not.

Do you think this is a court of law with "beyond all reasonable doubt"?

They don't need to prove he definitely said it. They just need to prove he probably said it. If he rocks up and says oh I didn't say that I said ummm allegro instead because I wanted him to be faster no one is gonna believe him

 

[Stefan]

Good point. Club should have played this better. Club and agent with the agent, deny media harassing him. Then come out with a statement.

This went completely the opposite. Club has something to learn here aswell.

The club has tried to distance themselves from it as much as possible.
If you read their public statements closely there has been no supportive messages.
They have basically decided they will deal with after FIGC judges it.
They likely felt it was the agents problem to organise.

 

[IM21]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1770205442763026511

 

[Glass box]

No. It cant be proven at all, how are they going to proove that he said "negro", hire a lip reader and zoom onto Acerbi? That's not how it works, Acerbi can deny this so easily by just mentioning another rhyming word. The thing is, he is in trouble of how this "racism movement" got so out of control that an x type of skin person/people no other than white, can have the social power to accuse you of being racist if they wanted to even though you were innocent. Everyone is going to side with them, especially the media and the hungry attention seeking journalists.

I think they will penalize Acerbi and/or suspend him, I dont think JJ would lie about it, but the point i try to make it is that they cant prove it from a video whether he said it or not.

However, Acerbi will answer before a federal prosecutor. Juan Jesus will need to prove his allegations there. Otherwise it's his word against Acerbi's.

 

[brakbrak]

Why don't they call the ref to testify? That should clear out the hearsay

 

[Lyran]

Why don't they call the ref to testify? That should clear out the hearsay

Why make it easy when they can make a soap opera about it?

No. It cant be proven at all, how are they going to proove that he said "negro", hire a lip reader and zoom onto Acerbi? That's not how it works, Acerbi can deny this so easily by just mentioning another rhyming word. The thing is, he is in trouble of how this "racism movement" got so out of control that an x type of skin person/people no other than white, can have the social power to accuse you of being racist if they wanted to even though you were innocent. Everyone is going to side with them, especially the media and the hungry attention seeking journalists.

I think they will penalize Acerbi and/or suspend him, I dont think JJ would lie about it, but the point i try to make it is that they cant prove it from a video whether he said it or not.

This is spot on - there's no more innoncent until proven guilty.
The media will milk this a 1000% if they could, and they will to sell clicks no matter the truth. The sad part about it is that club and national team have to take stance on wether it is true or wrong - and the outcome is hard to predict.

Even if you say something in the heat of the moment on the field and square up the players can still be prosecuted afterwards which is sad.
It's like aruging with your neighbour and laughing about it afterwards, but someone heard it and found it offensive and wanted to press charges.

The sociecty we will in now is so soft that a small thing today will be blown out of proportion, especially if someone famous has done somthing.
There's a reason why all top stars refuse to do any social media stuff - words can be interpreted and media wants to sell nonsense stories.

Nothing will change before media can be prosecuted for wrong doings of their publishing. Then the change will slowly start.

 

[Stefan]

Why don't they call the ref to testify? That should clear out the hearsay

Pretty sure they have the refs report which will include what he observed.

 

[NimAraya]

When our very Curva Nord release an official statement, making it "very clear" that they have a "certain way" of expressing themselves in Italia you know it's not just about the heat of the moment or an individual like Acerbi exposing his inner thoughts, it's a cultural thing. I don't know how this will end, but it won't be good for the player himself, Inter and the Italians. When you try to fight racism with banners and hashtags this is what you get.

 

[Meysam]

Hey, let's keep one group of people as slaves for a long time and ignore anyone who says it's not okay.
And then, let's find racism in every little thing, even when it's not there, and once again, ignore those who disagree.

It seems like some folks just won't listen to anyone else!

 

[.h.]

Hey, let's keep one group of people as slaves for a long time and ignore anyone who says it's not okay.
And then, let's find racism in every little thing, even when it's not there, and once again, ignore those who disagree.

It seems like some folks just won't listen to anyone else!

Dunno, dropping an n bomb is kinda racist though. There are plenty of insults you can throw on the pitch in a sporting moment without dropping an n bomb

 

[brehme1989]

Dunno, dropping an n bomb is kinda racist though. There are plenty of insults you can throw on the pitch in a sporting moment without dropping an n bomb

Yeah you can wish disease or death, but god forbid you talk about someone's skin as long as it's not wishing skin cancer, which I assume is fair game...*

Come on guys, enough with this nonsense.

Just sit and wait for whatever decision is out and then grab your pitchforks accordingly.


*based on true events:
"Se saltelli muore Balotelli", approved.
Remarks about his origin, not approved.

 

[Meysam]

Dunno, dropping an n bomb is kinda racist though. There are plenty of insults you can throw on the pitch in a sporting moment without dropping an n bomb

It's like nobody really wants to tackle the real issues, but they're quick to throw someone like Acerbi under the bus just to grab media attention, especially with movements like BLM. The media eats up that drama.

Look, in 2024, there aren't many outright racists around, just a few weirdos. And come on, calling someone racist for dropping the N-word in the heat of the moment? That's not cool. Acerbi says he's not racist, and I believe him. Real racists stick to their hateful beliefs and never back down.

 

[Stefan]

It's like nobody really wants to tackle the real issues, but they're quick to throw someone like Acerbi under the bus just to grab media attention, especially with movements like BLM. The media eats up that drama.

Look, in 2024, there aren't many outright racists around, just a few weirdos. And come on, calling someone racist for dropping the N-word in the heat of the moment? That's not cool. Acerbi says he's not racist, and I believe him. Real racists stick to their hateful beliefs and never back down.

Racist defence 101 used by every person who has ever been accused of making a racist remark. " I am not a racist"...

There are hundreds of other words he could have used. The fact that he chose to use color in any insult either shows a supreme level of stupidity or a subconscious issue.

 

[Bluenine]

I understand people who feel that the 'n word' abuse is blown out of proportion by the media & everyone else. It is. Players say worse sounding abuses & don't even get reported to the referee, its not even a controversy. But racist abuse will make national headlines & if proven Acerbi risks 10 game ban

IMO rightly so. Rampant racism is a big issue in Italian football & its one of the reasons that make Italian football less attractive for new fans. Nearly every game there are racists chants by crowds, not just one or two people. A large proportion of fans seem to think that making monkey noises at African players is not racist, its just part of the game. Remember Lukaku at Turin? Or Koulibaly at San Siro? Most of the time, the clubs get away with light punishments, sometimes even club officials make excuses or downplay the issue, its all empty gestures.

Making an example of players/fans who racially abuse is one of the ways to stop this. I'm all for harsher punishments here, for the players and even the clubs. The worst thing that can happen is if all this 'due process' is just a PR exercise & the punishment is negligible. Because thats what has been happening so far

 

[brehme1989]

Also on another ironic note, Inter fans did monkey noises on Acerbi (and Immobile) when the CN was banned after the Koulibaly case.

It did not make headlines. Barely anyone even noticed it.

 

[Bluenine]

Also on another ironic note, Inter fans did monkey noises on Acerbi (and Immobile) when the CN was banned after the Koulibaly case.

It did not make headlines. Barely anyone even noticed it.

And rightly so. Context is important, my friend. A white Italian guy calling another white Italian guy a monkey is not the same as a white Italian guy calling an African guy a monkey

 

[Gal]

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[brehme1989]

And rightly so. Context is important, my friend. A white Italian guy calling another white Italian guy a monkey is not the same as a white Italian guy calling an African guy a monkey

It was done by our fans to prove a point. And their point was proven. Nobody cares until someone makes a fuss about it.

Acerbi, Immobile and it was also Parolo. During the PK shootout.

Acerbi even did a gesture with his hands on his ears after that (and Lautaro had his PK saved, lol)

Balotelli never made a fuss about the death wishes and death chants, but complained about people commenting on his un-Italian-ness due to his heritage.

Inter via Moratti asked FIGC to stop the game during those chants but no one cared. The federation said at the time that they only stopped games for racial hatred. This was 15 years ago. And we still allow death chants and cancer wishes but only get appalled if someone says a smartass racial thing...
They added a stipulation but effectively it only involves if a players is in physical danger at that moment. Saying I'm going to kill you or hurt you is a threat, so that's penalized, but saying if we score/jump/sing, player X dies or gets a disease is still cool...


And let's be honest. If Acerbi said to Juan Jesus to rot dead, we wouldn't have had 15 pages of philosophical talk here. 3 snarky comments and that'd be the end of it.

 

[Gal]

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