Frank de Boer

[Bluenine]

Bull fucking shit. No one in the world getd a couple of seasons. Inter is the only club where we demand patience with a new manaher. Everyone else has a fucking honey moon period. Frank has until november to impress then fuck off if not.

I don't know dude, its quite the opposite. Inter is one of the few clubs with very little patience, from the management and (most of) the fans - as evident by the fact that we have our 9th coach in 6 years. The "honeymoon period" shite is one of the main reasons why we are so fucked up in the last 6 years. If you hire a new coach with a time frame of 6 months, you are asking for systematic failure.

The other problem of this fucking "honeymoon period" style of management is that Inter end up picking the wrong coaches. If you pick a coach with the idea that we will give him 2-3 years to build a team, you are more likely to select the right coach.

SAF would have never won anything at Man Utd if this rule had been applied to him - he finished 11th in his first season, and won his first EPL title after 6 years. Man Utd gave LVG also 2 years, inspite of all the poor results and all the money in the world to spend.

So IMO we should give FDB at least 2 years, with exception of extraordinary circumstances. And if extraordinary circumstances do occur, and we sack FDB before 2 years, then the people who selected FDB should also be sacked. No more of "Top 3 or else" bullshit in the first season - it is getting ridiculous, and it won't get us anywhere.

 

[JJM]

This isn't even FDB's team tbh
He is here a month with players he had no idea about how good they are,14 days before the Campionato with no preseason and he is under fire from the media and some fans
Are people for real?!
I've seen improvements from the first squad in the Campionato and this guys that played yesterday played first time under FDB and are not even good enough to start for a Chievo or Empoli tbh
Hapoel are not amateurs ffs
And our reserves are just not good enough for this level,and a bunch of them put together is a receipt for disaster

 

[Inter7]

So we are officially the laughing stock of the world. I dont mind it lowers expectations which removes pressure which is fine, at least from outsiders (fans of other teams thing we are total shit) Now the problems. I dont know what in the flying fuck is going on but since mourinho offensive movement has been in the shitter. Conte went to Juventus and have half a season players were dummying the ball to other players thats how well they knew where their teammates were. NO ONE ON OUR TEAM OPENS UP OR LOOKS FOR THE BALL. It is still so individualistic when we play, De Boer has a tough job ahead to preach about defending as a team and attacking as a team you have to truly believe in your teammates and have a great motivator as a coach. This team is far from where it needs to be. I hope De Boer can luck out against Juve get a draw that would help greatly.

 

[Pharaoh]

Bull fucking shit. No one in the world getd a couple of seasons. Inter is the only club where we demand patience with a new manaher. Everyone else has a fucking honey moon period. Frank has until november to impress then fuck off if not.

November, sure. 4 fixtures? No way dude.

 

[.h.]

You think he will still be here of we look shit in those 4 games?

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I don't know dude, its quite the opposite. Inter is one of the few clubs with very little patience, from the management and (most of) the fans - as evident by the fact that we have our 9th coach in 6 years. The "honeymoon period" shite is one of the main reasons why we are so fucked up in the last 6 years. If you hire a new coach with a time frame of 6 months, you are asking for systematic failure.

The other problem of this fucking "honeymoon period" style of management is that Inter end up picking the wrong coaches. If you pick a coach with the idea that we will give him 2-3 years to build a team, you are more likely to select the right coach.

SAF would have never won anything at Man Utd if this rule had been applied to him - he finished 11th in his first season, and won his first EPL title after 6 years. Man Utd gave LVG also 2 years, inspite of all the poor results and all the money in the world to spend.

So IMO we should give FDB at least 2 years, with exception of extraordinary circumstances. And if extraordinary circumstances do occur, and we sack FDB before 2 years, then the people who selected FDB should also be sacked. No more of "Top 3 or else" bullshit in the first season - it is getting ridiculous, and it won't get us anywhere.

Lol
Theres simply no way a manager who has done well but not incredibly is getting 2 years. Dont be so ridiculous.

Years was the legacy of the 80s. No one is getting that in this era anymore.

The world os delivery focused now. The closest anyone will get to 2 years is if someone like mourinho came in. Even then at most hed get 6 months. You have to show continuous signs pf improvement. If we lose or draw all 4 pf the next fiztures he will be deservedly sacked. Simple as that



And yes. They should be savked. Someone has an fdb ferish. I have no idea why we picked him as coach. Very little track record, experience in one league only, doesnt even speak Italian? No one haa tet satisfactorily explaones why we picked him.

 

[JJM]

Too much pressure on Inter coaches always,from Rube loyal papers and media and then the fans get edgy and then the mgmt feels it too...
If you lose like we did yesterday you get a GdS headline:
"Inter shit,FDB under pressure, next game decisive,Capello ready to replace him bla bla bla

Fuck the papers!

Mancini can fuck off with bringing in Melo,Biabiashit,loving Medel so much
Renewing Nagatomo,Palacio
Insisting on paying so much for Kondo
Shaqiri,Kova,Telles,Ljajic all decent players
Eder
ET is also at fault for getting discount players,we were never getting to the next level with discount players tbh...
Ofc he made our finances more clean so there is that,which lead to a gigant like Suning to come in...Thank fucking god
Grande Zhang Jindong!

I also blame Ausilio for having no balls to standi up to Manshitni and his crazy requests...

We need a leader with balls in the technical part of the mgmt.
Bolingbroke is pfff...I dunno what
Ausilio is a bit of a pussy
JZ is too nice
FDB needs a supervisor to monitor his work and report to the mgmt what he does,someone who understands football and isn't afarid to say what he thinks
We let the coach deal with every shitstorm incoming
Rube have Marmotta
Bbilan have Galliani
Napole have ADL in person
Roma have Sabatini

We have who?! ET? Ausilio? Bolingbroke?JZ?
Who is the media man?

 

[Demenza Senile]

Capello has said many times he does not want to go back to coaching clubs and I do recall him saying once that he would never coach Inter.Capello is just a rumour and we need not worry about him too much.

De Boer said somewhere he wanted to see how those players do who haven't been able to get into the lineup so far.But I wonder why he couldn't see in training that some of these guys simply cannot deliver the goods on the pitch.What is going on in training if he cannot make an estimation of how bad Ranocchia and Nagatomo are?De Boer must take full blame for this pathetic performance and team lineup because it should have been clear to him some of these guys cannot perform unless they play stellar football in training and fail each time on matchday.

But in his defence it should be clear to us all that with the omissions we have made from our EL squad , there is simply no way we can compete in the EL unless we play our starters all the time.There is no way De Boer can afford to do this all the time and hence why I felt yesterday was a chance to play a full team and then later on play some of these noobs whilst resting the starters.It is possible De Boer felt that this game was the best chance to try these guys out and if they fail he won't make this mistake again unless the EL is not a priority at all.If it is important for us to do well in the EL then I will judge De Boer on the lineups he chooses from here onwards.

Infact if we see blokes like Ranocchia,Nagatomo,Biabia again in the next 2 EL games then I feel like the management have told De Boer to forget the EL completely and focus on the league solely.With those FFP omissions I think this is a possibility.We should not be too hard on our coach for our EL performances as long as we do our jobs in the Serie A.If we perform like this in the league then the sooner we say arrivederci to De Boer the better but so far this hasn't been the case since the Chievo game.


In our league matches we have shown consistent improvements in our style of play so far.Against both Palermo and Pescara there were enough positives for us to take away and for that De Boer deserves credit.I believe we will see a much improved performance against Juve and I would be quite content with a draw.

If the results do not improve till mid/end-October then De Boer will sadly have to be sacked.No big club can keep a coach after spending as much as we have this summer and be languishing below 8-10th in the table by the end of October unless there is a massive improvement in the style of play on the pitch and the results are not coming due to bad luck.If we lose to Juve then De Boer simply has to win his next game and might even be living game to game for a few weeks.

 

[achilles]

"ET is also at fault for getting discount players,we were never getting to the next level with discount players tbh..."

This. This is almost our entire problem at the moment. IDK how anyone can think Mancini lobbied for Medel, D'Ambrosio, Biabiany to be brought in. Maybe he was told "No, we won't spend" and he scraped the bottom of the barrel and said "Can we at least get Medel? He will only cost X? How about Biabiany, who will count as a 'Inter-developed youth'?"

Within the constraints put on him, sure, Mancini may have suggested what players he would like.

But it was the constraints that led to us getting these mediocre talents, not Mancio.

 

[Wings]

"ET is also at fault for getting discount players,we were never getting to the next level with discount players tbh..."

This. This is almost our entire problem at the moment. IDK how anyone can think Mancini lobbied for Medel, D'Ambrosio, Biabiany to be brought in. Maybe he was told "No, we won't spend" and he scraped the bottom of the barrel and said "Can we at least get Medel? He will only cost X? How about Biabiany, who will count as a 'Inter-developed youth'?"

Within the constraints put on him, sure, Mancini may have suggested what players he would like.

But it was the constraints that led to us getting these mediocre talents, not Mancio.

Yeah if only we had listened to Mancini and gotten gems like Eder and Podolski...

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And yes. They should be savked. Someone has an fdb ferish. I have no idea why we picked him as coach. Very little track record, experience in one league only, doesnt even speak Italian? No one haa tet satisfactorily explaones why we picked him.

Yuh...and the past few seasons have shown that none of these criteria have much relevance to whether a coach will succeed.

 

[M.Adnan]

Yuh...and the past few seasons have shown that none of these criteria have much relevance to whether a coach will succeed.

:thumbsup:

Interestingly though, the best coach we've had was the one who has never step foot in Italy or even spoken the Italian language which was Mourinho. Another personal favorite of mine was Cuper who also had nothing to do with Italy. So far I'm optimistic about De Boer if things go into the right direction.

In the past 20 years, give me one Italian coach who has done a satisfying job with Inter apart from Luigi Simoni and Mancini's calciopoli local trophies.

 

[Ed.]

"ET is also at fault for getting discount players,we were never getting to the next level with discount players tbh..."

This. This is almost our entire problem at the moment. IDK how anyone can think Mancini lobbied for Medel, D'Ambrosio, Biabiany to be brought in. Maybe he was told "No, we won't spend" and he scraped the bottom of the barrel and said "Can we at least get Medel? He will only cost X? How about Biabiany, who will count as a 'Inter-developed youth'?"

Within the constraints put on him, sure, Mancini may have suggested what players he would like.

But it was the constraints that led to us getting these mediocre talents, not Mancio.

How could it be ET's fault? ET had just enough money to buy the club. It is Moratti's fault to sell Inter to someone who can afford to buy a cow but not green grass. However, obviously Moratti was just thinking of his pocket.

It's true we should listened to Mancini and get Reus, Aubameyang and Yaya Toure. Unfortunately, we didn't appoint Mancini to be transfer guru or chief scout. His job was to grind the best out of the players he has in his disposal. Yet, he couldn't deliver. A year and half he spent with the team yet you can't really tell an answer to a simple question.. what was the basic formation of Mancini's Inter?

Everyone has a share of the problem, but the fact that our players cannot even deliver a simple pass or move in the pitch.. It's not ET's fault or anyone else but down right to the coach. For this problem, it's completely Mancini's fault.

 

[tanorini]

DD and medel were brought by mazarri not mancini. Biabiany came on a free transfer but I see your point with us buying random players. Our problem is managment they must seek quality over quantity these players make amateurish mistakes and I think that is their maximum level we changed how many coaches and still same mistakes. Its impossible all these coaches are blind and can't notice.

 

[Ed.]

DD and medel were brought by mazarri not mancini. Biabiany came on a free transfer but I see your point with us buying random players. Our problem is managment they must seek quality over quantity these players make amateurish mistakes and I think that is their maximum level we changed how many coaches and still same mistakes. Its impossible all these coaches are blind and can't notice.

The reason why we still end up with players from Mazzarri's era is because many came during Mancini's era has been returned or sold. Podolski, Shaqiri, Telles, Montoya, Ljajic, Felipe, Erkin.

 

[tanorini]

The reason why we still end up with players from Mazzarri's era is because many came during Mancini's era has been returned or sold. Podolski, Shaqiri, Telles, Montoya, Ljajic, Felipe, Erkin.

Yeah, hence why we should be patient with deboer the man didnt even get the chance to know his squad well. It was too risky to sell and get players the time was also short. Mancini fuck him he should have said earlier that he doesn't want to stay why the fuck did he and our management drag it? We gave mancini so much say in our affairs when a deal doesn't have any sporting or economical sense we should reject it for example getting melo and giving him 25m is a joke.

 

[Ed.]

Yeah, hence why we should be patient with deboer the man didnt even get the chance to know his squad well. It was too risky to sell and get players the time was also short. Mancini fuck him he should have said earlier that he doesn't want to stay why the fuck did he and our management drag it? We gave mancini so much say in our affairs when a deal doesn't have any sporting or economical sense we should reject it for example getting melo and giving him 25m is a joke.

Mancini had the support from Thohir. Then Suning came and everything went into different direction.

 

[tanorini]

but mancini already had problems before the pre tournament they talked together and thohir and suning at this stage should know that he is not the right man for the job at this stage as they have irreconcilable differences.

 

[Ed.]

During the pre-season, Thohir still came out few times to say Mancini would stay. I think what happened was that Thohir tried to bridge Suning and Mancini but he couldn't and Suning eventually pulled the trigger. Should Suning do it earlier? Probably yes. But, it's not really a nice thing first day in office and you sack your manager eh? Also, they obviously needed the time to assess and understand what was happening. They are not Italians and they had no idea at all about this club.

 

[tanorini]

what thohir says in public doesn't matter. They knew the differences were huge since the beginning and they said no to most of his proposals but tried their best by getting him candreva and even after offering him a renewal he said no, the thing is mancini knew what he wanted and he didnt get it and they knew that would make him unhappy, why did our management choose to not to anything until tottenham's match by then we were already doing shit and they knew it our pre season was a mess since mancini didn't coach apparently by the performances and the fitness levels, his mind was somwhere else. I blame the management since they knew all of the above and stalled. Now we have to be patient with deboer and support him and hopefully we appoint someone who is close to the team and lives in italy to liaise with deboer and suning and thohir.

 

[InterFCAustin]

what thohir says in public doesn't matter. They knew the differences were huge since the beginning and they said no to most of his proposals but tried their best by getting him candreva and even after offering him a renewal he said no, the thing is mancini knew what he wanted and he didnt get it and they knew that would make him unhappy, why did our management choose to not to anything until tottenham's match by then we were already doing shit and they knew it our pre season was a mess since mancini didn't coach apparently by the performances and the fitness levels, his mind was somwhere else. I blame the management since they knew all of the above and stalled. Now we have to be patient with deboer and support him and hopefully we appoint someone who is close to the team and lives in italy to liaise with deboer and suning and thohir.

That all can be summed up as, no real fucking leader atm in our management.
Or, better said.......Too many chiefs, not enough indians.

 

[kameru]

He definitely never gonna start those 11 together anymore, it's basically back up player playing together not "B Team". Hopefully Banega & Candreva stay injury free, as I thought they Will Play every match from now.