Giampaolo "Il Pazzo" Pazzini

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You guys who said he was useless yesterday are blind or you think you need to score in order to have a good performance. Pazzo was key yesterday. Held up the ball very well and did his job as a target man. He ran hard for 90 minutes and shut down many Milan attacks by coming back and getting into passing lanes.

Not his best performance, but probably the best performance he could have had without scoring a goal. I have never seen a big target man forward run all over the pitch like he did...at least he didn't give up and just sit up top like many of these type of players do.
I agree with that. The only moment when he really pissed me off, is when he got unfairly angry against Nagatomo who shot after a great run in the 2nd HT...Pazzo wasn't even that well-placed and I was like "Pazzo, WTF??", when he almost kicked his feet on the post out of rage :D
 

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As I said, I highly appreciate his efforts in defence but other than that he was really useless.
Yeah but with this thinking everyone can be considered useless... Is just like saying 'Lucio did well in defence but other than that he was really useless'... Orly :palm:

He wasn't bad or useless, he just used a different (more defensive) tactic, one we haven't seen from him before... Made him look poor in attack but he was good at what he did.
 

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Yeah but with this thinking everyone can be considered useless... Is just like saying 'Lucio did well in defence but other than that he was really useless'... Orly :palm:

He wasn't bad or useless, he just used a different (more defensive) tactic, one we haven't seen from him before... Made him look poor in attack but he was good at what he did.

lol, your point was hilarious. Seriously, that was laughable. :lol:

Please go back to your subscribed Fuck Barca thread.
 

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No, you are bashing someone who just doesn't deserve to be bashed like that because he wasn't nearly as bad as you make him to be.
 

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Bes, you sound very ignorant with these posts. In my opinion, we would have not won without Pazzini's effort against Milan. Maybe you will broaden the way you watch a match when you get older, but as of right now, it seems like you are only impressed with a forward when they score or do some flashy moves.

You have to understand the type of match we were playing before you critique the players. This was not a high octane offensive match where Pazzini was blowing our attacks. This was a slow-paced dogfight and Pazzini did the dirty work he needed to in order to seal the win. You make it sound like he had clear scoring chances that he missed. The only three chances we had was Motta's GOAL, Alvarez's head-scratching miss and Milito's goal.

Was it a 8/10, no, it was not even a 7/10, but to call the player useless just shows that you are not to good at judging player performances. You would be great for Gazzetta though, because they seem to judge performances just like you do! :p

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I agree with that. The only moment when he really pissed me off, is when he got unfairly angry against Nagatomo who shot after a great run in the 2nd HT...Pazzo wasn't even that well-placed and I was like "Pazzo, WTF??", when he almost kicked his feet on the post out of rage :D

That is just a striker who is hungry for the ball. he wants to get the ball on every attack and when he doesn't and the attack does not end in a goal, he is angry. As long as he is not insulting his teammates, I think this is a good thing...at least he is showing some desire!
 

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No, you are bashing someone who just doesn't deserve to be bashed like that because he wasn't nearly as bad as you make him to be.

Oh for the love of God. I'm bashing no one. I am only commenting/criticizing his crap performance in the derby, which it seems might've offended someone. I give up with delusional people though.

Bes, you sound very ignorant with these posts. In my opinion, we would have not won without Pazzini's effort against Milan. Maybe you will broaden the way you watch a match when you get older, but as of right now, it seems like you are only impressed with a forward when they score or do some flashy moves.

You have to understand the type of match we were playing before you critique the players. This was not a high octane offensive match where Pazzini was blowing our attacks. This was a slow-paced dogfight and Pazzini did the dirty work he needed to in order to seal the win. You make it sound like he had clear scoring chances that he missed. The only three chances we had was Motta's GOAL, Alvarez's head-scratching miss and Milito's goal.

Was it a 8/10, no, it was not even a 7/10, but to call the player useless just shows that you are not to good at judging player performances. You would be great for Gazzetta though, because they seem to judge performances just like you do!
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lol vito, I absolutely do not rate only players when score/assist. Though I am myself a football amateur league player and seriously I watch every little detail about the game. To be honest, even my non-Interisti friends all kept criticizing Pazzo for being useless. I have nothing against the dude, but seriously get over it.

As I said, someone might've been offended by my posts towards Pazzo but the truth is the truth even if no one agrees. Said few times but once again, all he has done good was his efforts on defence, clearing balls, headers and so, other than that he is a pure disappointment as usual.

But I understand though, he's an Italian player. :rollani:
 

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Ranieri was completely sure and he knew that Pazzo could take it to the end. He did his duty very well, I liked his movement. We all know he's not an all-running attacker, but a poacher. CR did also well to not put Forlan in earlier, because he didn't want to risk other games as well. He even said that this game won't decide everything, there is a lot more games to play, so we need everyone fit. I was only questioning Chivu's sub, but once I saw Naga in midfield, and Chivu performing like never before, convinced me he had a plan and knew what was doing.

And I doubt anyone expected Pazzini to play the match of his life against Silva and Nesta, with such a midfield behind. He did very well imho, and that's why we succeeded; everyone did their duty.
 

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I think Pazzini did a very commendable job. He was disciplined and selfless. However, that being said, I don't think Forlan or Milito, (or Eto'o) would have done any less in Pazzini's situation and would have added more due to their attributes being more 'complete' than Pazzini's. It was great to see Pazzo tracking back, defending corners, marking players, holding up the ball, passing intelligently, etc. but I think we might be overly impressed because it's not often we see Pazzini playing like this.

Bottom line: Pazzo did a very good job, but in the same situation, Milito or Forlan could have done the same, and arguably more.
 

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I would have preferred Pazzini to score a hat trick. But under the circumstances, that was not an option. Considering the way our midfield played, where everybody (except Alvarez, although he was less attacking than usual) played defensively, it would be stupid to expect Pazzini to do anything else but what he did do. If we used the same tactic as Bbilan, i.e. playing possession football, it would be right to 'bash' Pazzini.

I think he did what he was told to do. And he did it fairly well, which is why Raineri chose not to substitute him.


@Besnik you are bashing him. You are exaggerating how bad he was, insisting on the claim that he sucked, without regard to what other people have to say. Saying that 'the truth is the truth even if no one agrees' in this context makes it difficult to take you and your posts seriously.
 

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Yeah I think he did a good job, what you guys expecting from him to do in a super-defensive game by us when everyone was defending?? plus we, in general, even didnt got a lot of a chances.. I think he did what CR asked him to do and what he has done have helped us to hold on and win the game.
 

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Oh for the love of God. I'm bashing no one. I am only commenting/criticizing his crap performance in the derby, which it seems might've offended someone. I give up with delusional people though.



lol vito, I absolutely do not rate only players when score/assist. Though I am myself a football amateur league player and seriously I watch every little detail about the game. To be honest, even my non-Interisti friends all kept criticizing Pazzo for being useless. I have nothing against the dude, but seriously get over it.

As I said, someone might've been offended by my posts towards Pazzo but the truth is the truth even if no one agrees. Said few times but once again, all he has done good was his efforts on defence, clearing balls, headers and so, other than that he is a pure disappointment as usual.

But I understand though, he's an Italian player. :rollani:


Lol so now your opinion is TRUTH? Oh wait because your non-Interisti friends agreed with you, it must be a FACT. Well my cat thought Pazzini played great, so that means my opinion is just as true as yours!

Nothing to do with him being Italian. It has everything to do with the fact that I played the game at a pretty high level and I am the same type of player Pazzini is. As a player like that, when you are not getting the ball or helping to build the attack, it is almost impossible to give a shit about working hard and helping out the defence. The fact that he had an off night offensively and still had the integrity to sprint back on defence at around the 90th minute, shows you what kind of performance it was. I do not need an amateur player or his friends to tell me how he played...I saw it with my own eyes.

He has had plenty of games where he was useless, this was not one of them.
 

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To me, Pazzo played a great game and was our most important offensive player in the second half. Held up the ball nicely and ran the most outside of Ricky Alvarez in terms of off the ball pressure due to lack of service.
 

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Lol so now your opinion is TRUTH? Oh wait because your non-Interisti friends agreed with you, it must be a FACT. Well my cat thought Pazzini played great, so that means my opinion is just as true as yours!

Nothing to do with him being Italian. It has everything to do with the fact that I played the game at a pretty high level and I am the same type of player Pazzini is. As a player like that, when you are not getting the ball or helping to build the attack, it is almost impossible to give a shit about working hard and helping out the defence. The fact that he had an off night offensively and still had the integrity to sprint back on defence at around the 90th minute, shows you what kind of performance it was. I do not need an amateur player or his friends to tell me how he played...I saw it with my own eyes.

He has had plenty of games where he was useless, this was not one of them.

Not saying that my opinion is the truth.. but the truth is that he is useless most of time and hardly offers anything in our game. He's nothing but a very limited striker that is only dangerous in the box with his finishing and good heading ability. He's hardly useful with ball when needed to past the opponent or co-operate with teammates with passing, moving and so.

And my first sentence was just about how other people non-Interisti see him. Whatever man! I'm glad most of you guys are satisfied with his performance. Not gonna argue anymore.
 

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Pazzini is just perfect player for us. Average salary, does his job against small teams, scores headers, sitters etc. Holding ball against big teams, trying to will duels in the air etc. He's quiet when Ranieri bench him and when we have injury crises he always respond with class and with his maximum.

It's clear that he will never be top star, marketing magnet or something like that but it's also true that he can always be great second or third option in any team of the world. Inzaghi, Crespo, Higuain, Pazzini ...
 

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Pazzini is just perfect player for us. Average salary, does his job against small teams, scores headers, sitters etc. Holding ball against big teams, trying to will duels in the air etc. He's quiet when Ranieri bench him and when we have injury crises he always respond with class and with his maximum.

It's clear that he will never be top star, marketing magnet or something like that but it's also true that he can always be great second or third option in any team of the world. Inzaghi, Crespo, Higuain, Pazzini ...

Take out Higuain from the list. He is not only a poacher, he is more complete, kind of Milito
 

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Pazzini is better in the air and quicker than Milito, and better at holding the ball up than Forlan.

Thats why he was left on the field. He did his job well and kept fighting till the end.

(although I thought he was a bit harsh on Naga too)
 

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and quicker than Milito

:eek:blivious:

My opinion about his derby performance is rather similar to Besnik's than to people who're trying to defend him. I was really suprised seeing that Milito - not him - was subbed out. Pazzo irritated me beacuse each time he was playing back to goal he fell down on the pitch and pretended to be fouled by Bilan defenders. In the last minutes referee did not take him seriously, and we were unable to keep the ball on the opponent's half.

He is out of form, unfortunately.
 

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In my view, Pazzini should be a certain starter against smaller teams at home. At home against those lower teams we can play him as a poacher and stack him in front of playmakers like Sneijder, Alvarez, Forlan and Coutinho. In those games we will have the majority of posession and a player like him will be perfect.

Against teams like Milan or in the CL....I'm just not seeing it tbh. It can almost be as if we're playing with 10 men. That spot Pazzini takes up can be better utilised by an extra body in the middle or someone who can actually take on opposition in a fast-counter attack. Something we will be heavily relying on.
 
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