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Luka, but then we have the luxury of Motta or even Sneijder if we are that desperate to attack(not the whole 90mins but I know what you mean(, just play Countinho/Pandev as AM... 2 DM positions and we will have 2 World Class DM's and more than decent backup in Motta, Mariga then JZ and then Deki as well just in case.
 

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So it looks like we're getting him then. Wonder where this will leave Big Mac..

True and thats the only thing I'm worried about. We need to tell him that you are 1 player out of 4 required for 2 positions...

But then what will Deki do?

Heck we arent even talking about Muntari yet :p
 

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True and thats the only thing I'm worried about. We need to tell him that you are 1 player out of 4 required for 2 positions...

But then what will Deki do?

Heck we arent even talking about Muntari yet :p

Muntari is a dead man walking surely. Well not literally but he has to be heading towards the exit.

It was like he was only here to be Mou's cheerleader anyway :lol:
 

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Luka, but then we have the luxury of Motta or even Sneijder if we are that desperate to attack(not the whole 90mins but I know what you mean(, just play Countinho/Pandev as AM... 2 DM positions and we will have 2 World Class DM's and more than decent backup in Motta, Mariga then JZ and then Deki as well just in case.
Our plan should be evolved around first team players, not the "backup" players that will fit in "what if" case.

The 2 DM's with little "on the ball" abbility kinda scares me, but again... I trust Rafa. For now... :p
 

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whats the point of go back to 4-3-1-2 when we won cl with 4-2-3-1.
I know. but i still agree with him, at least in a way

having this as a backup formation when we need to change tactics/defend a bit more is pretty damm awesome



----------Milito - Eto--------------
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------------Sneijder---------------
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---Motta-Cambiasso-Mascherano---
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Zanetti ---Samuel ---Lucio --Maicon
 

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Today Mourinho compared Mariga to having the potential to be a Essien/Eto'o. If we buy Mascherano that's going to stunt his growth badly.
 

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THAT is why i say we don't need Masch...

He is indeed one of the best DMs in the world, but we are set in that area... We would have Cambi/mascherano/Deki/Motta/Mariga for those 2 spots.. And that is IF we sell Muntari... So unless we offload 2 players no need of mascherano, it is a fact...

plus, as i said before, if we sell maicon and buy masch, who the fuck will creare our play, who will connect the defense with sneijder, when both cambi and mascherano suck at passing and creativity...
 

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I said the same thing, we have plenty of playerS of that profile!!!
I know he's good, 26 years old [best years ahead of him], already Argentine NT Captain [I don't agree with that]... but Liverpool are asking much and we could use that money to land a player we actually need - a 2way midfielder for instance, or a world class versatile winger if we stick to 4-2-3-1.
 

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If Inter buy mascherano and play him in midfield with cambiasso it will allow the like of sneijder, eto'o, pandev, milito and etc to focus more on attact. but on the other side he's expensive and we already have players in that position. it might also take away mariga chance to play.
 

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with thiago motta

<br />
0 0 0 22 0 0 0<br />
0 27 0 10 0 0 0<br />
0 0 0 0 0 9 0<br />
0 0 8 0 0 0 0<br />
0 0 0 0 19 0 13<br />
4 0 0 0 0 0 0<br />
0 0 25 0 6 0 0<br />
12<br />

with mascherano

<br />
0 0 0 22 0 0 0<br />
0 27 0 10 0 0 0 <br />
0 0 0 0 0 9 0 <br />
0 0 0 0 0 0 0<br />
0 0 mascherano 0 19 0 13<br />
4 0 0 0 0 0 0<br />
0 0 25 0 6 0 0<br />
12<br />

can you spot the difference?
 

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yes i can spot the difference

we'll be less likely to concede goals with the 2nd formation if the front 4 are allowed to play that high up

and anyway, Cambiasso will be on the left with mascherano, not right. and Eto will be higher up than pandev. Camb & Masch will give Maicon and Zanetti space to push forward instead of just Maicon

0 0 0 Milito 0 0 0<br />
0 Pandev 0 0 0 Eto 0<br />
0 0 0 Sneijder 0 0 0<br />
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 <br />
0 0 Cambiasso 0 Mascherano 0 0<br />
Zanetti 0 0 0 0 0 Maicon<br />
0 0 Samuel 0 Lucio 0 0<br />
0 0 0 Cesar 0 0 0
 
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except the formation will look more like this

<br />
0 0 0 22 0 0 0<br />
0 27 0 10 0 9 0<br />
0 0 0 0 0 0 0<br />
0 0 0 0 0 0 0<br />
0 0 19 0 mascherano 0 0<br />
4 0 0 0 0 0 13<br />
0 0 25 0 6 0 0 <br />
12<br />

we will have the exact same problem juve had last season, good defense good attack but nothing connecting the two
 

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except the formation will look more like this

<br />
0 0 0 22 0 0 0<br />
0 27 0 10 0 9 0<br />
0 0 0 0 0 0 0<br />
0 0 0 0 0 0 0<br />
0 0 19 0 mascherano 0 0<br />
4 0 0 0 0 0 13<br />
0 0 25 0 6 0 0 <br />
12<br />

we will have the exact same problem juve had last season, good defense good attack but nothing connecting the two

I'd expect the offense to run through the wings a lot more (especially Maicon(like Bayern)). Sneijder would also have to track back more often to retrieve the ball.
 

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I'd expect the offense to run through the wings a lot more (especially Maicon(like Bayern)). Sneijder would also have to track back more often to retrieve the ball.

so it will look like this then

<br />
0 0 0 22 0 0 0 <br />
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 <br />
0 0 0 10 0 0 0<br />
0 27 0 0 0 9 0 <br />
0 0 mascherano 0 19 0 0<br />
4 0 0 0 0 0 13<br />
0 0 25 0 6 0 0<br />
12<br />

it's the same problem, except unlike juve we don't have any player that can hold up the ball other than balotelli and we don't have anyone that can keep possession in midfield other than sneijder
 

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so it will look like this then

<br />
0 0 0 22 0 0 0 <br />
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 <br />
0 0 0 10 0 0 0<br />
0 27 0 0 0 9 0 <br />
0 0 mascherano 0 19 0 0<br />
4 0 0 0 0 0 13<br />
0 0 25 0 6 0 0<br />
12<br />

it's the same problem, except unlike juve we don't have any player that can hold up the ball other than balotelli and we don't have anyone that can keep possession in midfield other than sneijder

Eto'o and Maicon would both be higher.
 

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Great player he is, 35m is far too much!!! But liverpool will just have to come to terms they are now considered a spurs/villa/everton europa team and the very big players will want to get out!
 

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apart from Buffon or Chiellini (just for debates sake) our team will be entirely better than Juve's in every single position on the pitch than theirs was last season. that difference can't be underestimated

you can't compare Sissoko - Melo with Cambiasso - Mascherano. the quality of those partnerships is almost on another level. ours would be completely solid and far less stupid than Juve's. it'd just give way more freedom for other players to be creative. Maicon, Zanetti, Sneijder, Eto, Pandev. these players will all be in or around the midfield area, ready to retrieve a pass, ready to distribute one. our 3 attackers aren't just gonna be standing up in the penalty box waiting for the ball to arrive
 

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except the formation will look more like this

<br />
0 0 0 22 0 0 0<br />
0 27 0 10 0 9 0<br />
0 0 0 0 0 0 0<br />
0 0 0 0 0 0 0<br />
0 0 19 0 mascherano 0 0<br />
4 0 0 0 0 0 13<br />
0 0 25 0 6 0 0 <br />
12<br />

we will have the exact same problem juve had last season, good defense good attack but nothing connecting the two

I just don't see the problem... why does sneijder have to be pushed that far up? isn't pandev, milito and Eto enough of an attack threat up front? Sneijder will be the main link and will sit a fair bit in front of the DMF's, almost on line with pandev and Eto, just a little further back
 

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apart from Buffon or Chiellini (just for debates sake) our team will be entirely better than Juve's in every single position on the pitch than theirs was last season. that difference can't be underestimated

you can't compare Sissoko - Melo with Cambiasso - Mascherano. the quality of those partnerships is almost on another level. ours would be completely solid and far less stupid than Juve's. it'd just give way more freedom for other players to be creative. Maicon, Zanetti, Sneijder, Eto, Pandev. these players will all be in or around the midfield area, ready to retrieve a pass, ready to distribute one. our 3 attackers aren't just gonna be standing up in the penalty box waiting for the ball to arrive

i wasn't comparing the players because inter are clearly miles ahead but juve's squad is top 3 material and they finished SEVENTH

inter's squad already has a problem with creativity so why do you think that giving the players more freedom would mean that the players no longer have to hold back in the creative department?
 
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