La Curva Nord

[Luka]

If it was just few idiots, they as a group would shut the idiots down. Because they are not random events, the monkey chants have been there for years.

Group leaders can be idiots too

What I'm saying is that my bet would be that if you did random anonymous poll accross CN huge number would be against it. I can't imagine most would be ok. I was many times in San Sirro and bar 2 cases I was always on Curva Nord and never heard chants or get impression those guys are racist. Also remember Etoo was at CN. I think this is some faction within Irriducibili who are doing those retarded chants.

 

[firmino]

I remember last time I went to the stadium (not San siro) to see an Inter match the "leader" of a group of supporters of the home team entered an area of the stadium and told to leave it to him and his group: the few people who were (rightfully) there had to leave.

Said gentleman also started smoking pot, to which I would not be against if at least he had shared some blivious:

 

[Universe]

Group leaders can be idiots too

What I'm saying is that my bet would be that if you did random anonymous poll accross CN huge number would be against it. I can't imagine most would be ok. I was many times in San Sirro and bar 2 cases I was always on Curva Nord and never heard chants or get impression those guys are racist. Also remember Etoo was at CN. I think this is some faction within Irriducibili who are doing those retarded chants.

I think a lot of people just use racism when it suits them. Even some kids I went to school with I noticed were inherently prejudiced against Asians, especially when viewed as a group. But to them, "I was OK" because I'd grown up in the same school etc and they got to know me.

This kind of selective racism is super common. Eto'o was a star in our squad and 'showed respect' to the CN by going there for one match - so in that instance, he's "one of us/them". Those same people got triggered by Koulibaly's dissent towards the ref after he fouled Politano, and had no problem using racism then to goad him.

Racism is just one of those things. It's hard to imagine that people will ever truly evolve to completely rid ourselves of prejudice towards those different to us, ethnically or culturally. Also consider that much of Europe is pretty backwards in terms of political correctness or sensitivity.

 

[brehme1989]

The fact that race issues that are predominant in the US and mini US (the UK mostly) is how we express outrage towards what the fans are doing or saying seems double standard-ish.

Do we get triggered the same way when Icardi is called an "uomo di merda"?
Do we get triggered the same way when almost every football related person out there is called a "figlio di puttana"?
Or when fans wish death, disease or destruction of cities and regions?

One of the most viral chants in Italian football was with a young kid leading an ultras group (Foggia iirc) how nice it would be if the region that Napoli is in was covered with Vesuvio's lava... Anyone seeing it will probably just laugh it off.

Here's the video:
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Uploaded by a Napoli fansite by the way, twice as many likes than dislikes.

Italians do not have the same sensitivies as the anglosphere. Most of them find the monkey chant as a funny trigger. Even the FA doesn't give a shit. They only banned us for fuck's sake because Koulibaly is quite high profile and so are we and it was just a PR stunt by them. Otherwise they'd do the same to Cagliari, to Fiorentina, to Napoli and to anyone else. Juventus is outside the loop of course as they make the rules and they have a knack of not punishing themselves but instead hand themselves more perks.

 

[firmino]

"uomo di merda" (shitty man, piece of shit or similar) is something you say to someone for the way he acted, regardless of the color of his skin, his nationality or ethnicity. So I would not put that together with racism.

 

[brehme1989]

"uomo di merda" (shitty man, piece of shit or similar) is something you say to someone for the way he acted, regardless of the color of his skin, his nationality or ethnicity. So I would not put that together with racism.

I'm not saying it's part of racism.

Italian Regionalism is not racism either even if they dub it as such. Heck, people call someone a racist for not liking people of a particular religion group or confuse it with sexism these days.


Why is it acceptable to sing that someone's mother is a whore? Don't we agree that this is not something that would not happen outside the stadium? You don't go to a random stranger calling him a figlio di puttana in the middle of the street (granted, almost everyone does it in the safety of his car, another weird social jungle). So why is that not reprimanded? Do people go and make monkey sounds outside as well? Both are confined within the stadium. And it's not because they believe that some people's mothers are whores or that they are racist, it's because it's a fucked up fun group thing when you're in a stadium. That's how the society is. You go to the stadium to vent and get into the nerves of your opponent, you don't care about their feelings. The exact opposite. You try to hit the right nerve with each and everyone, then you go home and you don't even remember doing any of that.

If you want this to stop, fix your society so that people don't go to stadium to vent but just to watch a football game. There's a reason why this occurs mostly in fucked up places such as Greece, Italy and other similar environments.

 

[Linege]

"uomo di merda" (shitty man, piece of shit or similar) is something you say to someone for the way he acted, regardless of the color of his skin, his nationality or ethnicity. So I would not put that together with racism.

did FIGC banning for moneky chants vs white players too when it happens? or other slurs?

If you want this to stop, fix your society so that people don't go to stadium to vent but just to watch a football game. There's a reason why this occurs mostly in fucked up places such as Greece, Italy and other similar environments.

in italy and greece people got much more freedom, in england and germany you have to obey way more. they didnt fix anything, they just ban all troublesome people from entering a stadium.

its very easy, ban all curva/ultras groups and cheapest tickets and you will have fans like on epl game.


psg bans guys which doesnt like their new owners too but its psg, where they have to separate white psg fans from immigrant fan groups. as far as i remember they banned psg fans from away games because they were fighting each other



and last reminder, inter is the most disliked team in italy and last polling confirms it.
juve the most liked one

 

[firmino]

The reason why we are the most disliked in italy is that Italian press is for the greater part a bunch of brown noses to the agnellis, ready to do and say anything to please them

 

[Demenza Senile]

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[firmino]

for anyone who might be interested, Curva Nord have released a new statement. They have kind of taken back those words about the supporters who watch the matches on the couch, but have even cranked up their words about icardi.

goal.com (https://www.goal.com/en/news/icardi...nord-ultras-demand/1o9rsp3rks35h11twqy7xoq009) offers a translation.


"Awaiting tomorrow's important game, we reiterate the position of the Curva Nord.

We are not ones to dictate what other fans at San Siro ought to do. We are not interested in making lists of who is better or more of an Inter fan.

But we will not backtrack on Icardi. He cannot be the future of Inter. Refusing to wear the jersey on more than one occasion with ridiculous excuses, he dug his own grave.

If Inter officials were too wavering in their behaviour, that cannot be our problem. The basic issue remains. Let's leave the fairy tales to issues of internal survival in a split that, at this stage, looks to be irreparable".

 

[InterFCAustin]

and last reminder, inter is the most disliked team in italy and last polling confirms it.
juve the most liked one

Wait...what?!!! Since when? I find this hard to believe..what did we ever do to anyone in Italy? Is this some official poll or what?
It’s always been juve the one everyone hated...

 

[Mad Biscione]

 

[Sassuolu]

How sad do you have to be if you identify your whole miserable life on the fortunes of a football club?

Don't get me wrong I wouldnt be posting here if I didn't love Inter but who are these morons helping? definitely not the club.

 

[wera]

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAH what the fuck is this

 

[firmino]

How sad do you have to be if you identify your whole miserable life on the fortunes of a football club?

Don't get me wrong I wouldnt be posting here if I didn't love Inter but who are these morons helping? definitely not the club.

well, to be fair, this isn't necessarily the case for all of them. being often close to the club still leaves some room and time for a job, although clearly not every kind of job.

 

[Il Drago]

That's a new low for Curva Nord. Calling the rest of Interisti who go to Meazza gobbi because they disagree with them.

Inter ultras slam Icardi: 'This little man does not deserve Inter'

Inter Milan drew 1-1 with AS Roma yesterday evening, fighting back from a goal down to share the points with Claudio Ranieri's Giallorossi side. Mauro Icardi took to the field for the second half, much to the displeasure of some of the Inter ultras within the Curva Nord. Today, the Curva have published their press release after the game, including some very attacking comments against Icardi.

"Assuming that we are sorry for all the missed hunchbacks that populate the rest of San Siro and whistle against our consistency only because they are hungry for victory, we don't move an inch. That little man who wears "the number 9" does not deserve Inter , because he has not shown even the minimum of professional correctness that any "employee of a company" should demonstrate expressing respect for the shirt, for the public that believes in it or at least for the company he works for.

"It is our certainty that "the number 9" cannot be a figure on which to build a group that can constitute the future we all hope for; a future that in our opinion cannot and must never pass through victory at all costs but through a team and a company that shows respect for the colors they represent and always gives everything for Inter, we ask for nothing else. We can say if in other European league what is happening on our stands could happen but the question we ask ourselves is: “have you ever seen players in other championships pretend to be injured, refuse to play, grin before their team's defeats and leave the group for months then imposing their return through lawyers?"

 

[YoramG]

Imagine if the media just didn't report what these buffoons say. They'd fade into irrelevance immediately.

 

[firmino]

I will never understand why these people even believe they can virtually assign or withdraw "tifo licences".

 

[Mad Biscione]

:chan: CN is full of little men

 

[firmino]

if anyone cares, another curva nord's statement regarding icardi. original and google translation. i have to say, i agree with them on this one.

"Lo abbiamo cercato di spiegare in tutte le lingue, nessuno mette in discussione le qualità tecniche e sportive del numero 9 ma il problema è e sarà sempre quello legato al suo profilo mentale ed all'atteggiamento nei confronti del gruppo che non può e non potrà mai cambiare. Le tante occasioni mancate per riconciliarsi con spogliatoio e curva sono abbondante testimonianza del fatto che, per il bene comune, un giocatore con quel tipo di superficialità caratteriale non può esser parte del futuro dell’Inter".

"We have tried to explain it in all languages, no one questions the technical and sporting qualities of the number 9 but the problem is and will always be the one related to his mental profile and attitude towards the group that cannot and will never change . The many missed opportunities to reconcile with the locker room and curve are abundant evidence of the fact that, for the common good, a player with that kind of superficial character cannot be part of the future of Inter.