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I didn't look into this formation lately, but I will eventually. 4-2-1-3 is apparently 2 dm's and a CM playing in front of them, in the opposition to Offensive midfielder playing behind the striker.

I know people like to say it's not so "static" and the field is not like backboard, but the point is, the offensive midfielder is more pushed to the back, while the 2 wingers are more pushed to the front, from what it seems.

Anyways we might see how things will look in the end.
 

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I did'nt understand what's 4-2 fantasia? really...

it's that (simple 4-4-2)?
--------GK--------
RB----CB-CB----LB
RW---CM-CM---LW
------ST-ST------

???
4-2-1-3

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He also won many important games. Brilliant of you to deliberately leave out the Juventus games ( 3-0 both home and away), the Roma games (home win, away draw) and Madrid games (away win, home draw). Milans squad last season wasnt half as strong as it is this season, thats a fact.

Rafa couldnt beat the likes of Lecce, brecia and Chievo so yes, apparently we do need a coach to win these games.


Juventus were playing with Poulsen (OMG Who?) and Melo (if i recall he was a disaster last year) in midfield... How did you expect them to win?

As for Roma, last year was their worst in the last decade arguably... They even got beaten by Panathinaikos FC in europa league home and away...

Real Madrid is the joke of Europe since they last conquered the Champions League...2002 that is... They even managed to be eliminated by Lyon...C'mon...

I do not support Benitez, i'm clear on this... I think he made a lot of mistakes although he is not responsible for the lack of transfer funds (clearly the team needs 2 transfers) nor the many (unusually many...) injuries

what's rafa's record against the big teams so far?

I think i got you covered with my answer to Azzkikr above
 
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I keep reading complains following Leo's appointment to the extent that I'm starting to believe that we were spoilt for choice!

Some of us have to get over it, the big names out there are either unavailable or not interested in taking over the job. I keep reading "why didn't we get Hiddink or Capello?!" What the hell people do you really think it's that easy?!

Hiddink is not interested in going back to being a club coach, he's too old for this. He did it for his pal Abramovic as a "favor" but that was it. As for Capello, the guy wants to retire after Euro 2012 so it's not even worth it to discuss the matter.

Zenit (Gazprom) has more money than what you guys think. Few years back they stopped gas supplies to Ukraine! That's how powerful this company is. We were interested in Spalletti but they said NO.

So what was left for us? It was between hiring Leonardo or Zenga and between those two Leonardo was the more sensible choice despite his well documented Milan past.

His record with Milan is not that bad in my opinion, let's not forget that he didn't have the greatest squad and still managed to threaten Inter occasionally last season. For example when we played the 2nd derby, they were without the injured Nesta and he had to use Favalli as a center back. So let's give the guy a chance before making our judgment.

At this time we need a motivator more than a coach, someone who can talk to the players and be close to them. In my opinion, Leonardo is very good at this. I'm optimistic but not carried away by this change and I hope he manage to succeed with us.

Benvenuto Leo ;)
 

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Juventus were playing with Poulsen (OMG Who?) and Melo (if i recall he was a disaster last year) in midfield... How did you expect them to win?

As for Roma, last year was their worst in the last decade arguably... They even got beaten by Panathinaikos FC in europa league home and away...

Real Madrid is the joke of Europe since they last conquered the Champions League...2002 that is... They even managed to be eliminated by Lyon...C'mon...

You are talking utter nonsense, do you even have a clue what you are talking about here?

That 'shitty' Juventus team beat us 2-1 when we were dominating in the first half of the season.

And Roma having their worst season of the decade??? Is this some sort of joke? :lol: They almost beat us to the scudetto, finishing with 80 points vs our 82. They were leading a few weeks before the end and we had to rely on samp to save our asses.

And yea, beating Madrid at the BB is certainly worth nothing as well:rollani: You are talking like Milan were some sorta super team that should steamroll opponents. They had major issues last season and didnt have the the stars they brought in this season, but Leonardo did reasonably well despite this.

Its been a long time since ive read a more uninformed post tbh.
 
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I'm sorry but am I missing something here? Why have some of the response here been positive about the capturing of Leonardo. Are we forgetting about his background? This is the same guy that played for Milan, ended his playing career for Milan and after that he served in some capacity for Milan. He is 'Mr Milan' !!

Well a man like Walter Zenga who is a Nerazurri through and throughout, he is a Pure Blood, he would of been the perfect choice 2 lead us 2 glory! but instead we choose someone who has a long history and a huge affection with milan.

I for one am not happy about signing this halfblood milanista piece of sh*t
 

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Am I the only one who loves the fact that Leo is "Mr.Milan"???

Inter getting Leo is a knife thrusted into the heart every Milanista! It's great.
 

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You are talking utter nonsense, do you even have a clue what you are talking about here?

And Roma having their worst season of the decade??? Is this some sort of joke? :lol: They almost beat us to the scudetto, finishing with 80 points vs our 82. They were leading a few weeks before the end and we had to rely on samp to save our asses.

And yea, beating Madrid at the BB is certainly worth nothing as well:rollani: You are talking like Milan were some sorta super team that should steamroll opponents. They had major issues last season and didnt have the the stars they brought in this season, but Leonardo did reasonably well despite this.



You have clearly misunderstood what i'm saying... (as i was suspecting)

Last year Panathinaikos was not a super team and yet managed to get 6 goals against Roma. Not such a good year i must say IN EUROPE... where every team shows what they can do. We were winning championships with Mancini but the Champions League cemented Inter in Europe's elite. Am i wrong?

As for Real and Juventus they were a joke last season, but this is football: everyone gets a chance (for Juventus that is...)

"They had major issues last season" as Inter has this season... The solution is hiring Leonardo, getting kicked out of the CL with embarassing 4-0, getting kicked out of CI by Udinese and finish 12 points behind the champion and then we can all be happy...

Last year's success brought Inter into the pantheon of Europe... These kind of choices will get our team out of it...

I'm not saying Leonardo is the worst, i'm saying he is average and unproven, something Inter just can't stand at the moment
 

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How was Real Madrid a joke last season? They broke the La Liga points record, only to have Barca just edge them out.

As for Roma failing in "Europe" it was the Europa Cup, when was the last time an Italian team has given two shits about the UEFA Cup, especially a team that's gunning for the scudetto?
 

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Rijkaard without Johan Cruyff is almost an average coach. I don't think Cruyff will help him, if Frank moves to Inter
 

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now i can say that the transformation process of Milano's clubs has completed.. :palm:
we've become Milan, and they have become Inter..!
Leo won't win us the Serie A, period.
he will make the playing style more attractive, just like he did with Milan few months ago.. that should make us competitive, but not that competitive enough to win a trophy..
i hope i'm over-evaluating the situation, if assuming that Inter as a club for Leo is a better ground than his ex; Milan..

Rafa was motivated to prove his success at Inter.. will Leo be motivated in the same way ?
motivation brought hard working and concentration.. but on the other hand, the players were broken down psychologically and much effected by Rafa's mess at Inter..
maybe now with Leo, things will change.. the players will gain back their high morale as long as the statics are telling there's an improvement.. simply "wins" results..

the situation at Inter is so tough, and Leo should be up to it when he first thought of coming here.. i hope u all the best luck Leonardo, coz u'r gonna need it badly

there's an interesting note that many of u may not take it easy, Rafa is much experienced as a coach than Leo .. and even if Rafa failed to impress in just few months, imo he was more reliable to recover the situation than an unproven young coach or inexperienced..

Leo's qualities:
1- he may have a key solution to the players' fitness..
2- he has an insightful scouting experience..
3- he has experience in Italy more than Rafa and Mourinho

these are the most i can think of by far..
Rafa's sacking was never a bad move.. but sacking Rafa AND hiring Leonardo to replace, is very awkward move.. but we should have some optimism by sticking to those^ Leo's advantages..

Forza Inter!

I think Leo's biggest challenge will be winning Inter fans over, even though there is an air of optimism around him now his Milanista past won't help him when the team struggles but let's hope everything goes well from this point on and we'll recover our 13 point deficit.

spot on ... i fear the same way that if he messes up sometimes, the fans may not take it easy at all.. let's hope he duzn't mess up

i was more optimistic to recover the 13 points deficit when Rafa was here, i even expected 4 points from the next 2 matches.. now i don't feel any optimism about cutting the deficit..

ps. that was pure statical post..
 

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I'm sorry but am I missing something here? Why have some of the response here been positive about the capturing of Leonardo. Are we forgetting about his background? This is the same guy that played for Milan, ended his playing career for Milan and after that he served in some capacity for Milan. He is 'Mr Milan' !!

Well a man like Walter Zenga who is a Nerazurri through and throughout, he is a Pure Blood, he would of been the perfect choice 2 lead us 2 glory! but instead we choose someone who has a long history and a huge affection with milan.

I for one am not happy about signing this halfblood milanista piece of sh*t

Have you ever heard of Giovanni Trapattoni bro?! :rollani:
 

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none of those names were available...

so, apparently MM took the easy way out.. hired the best available option out there.. as he had no trust in Benitez, moreover he didn't want to trust him in transfers.. tbh, i can't blame MM for anything, he's doing the best he can..

the situation at Inter is very difficult.. when u don't have luck AND a decent coach, u'r totally fucked up.. something president Moratti can't accept.. we should just go with the flow as believers in our critical decisions.. let's hope 2011 will smile back to our changes

Noone ofcourse. But it's the same as if we took Sanchez and say, who is to say he won't be another Ronaldo ?

It's all about percenteges. You can take the coach off the streets, and he will be the next Mourinho. But what chance there is for that ?

Now you take Mourinho, and what chance you have that he will lead to a success ?

So that's the difference. The difference is about the probability, and Leonardo might become a succesfull coach in the end with us, but if we're honest the odds of that weren't too high when we were discussing him before we signed him.

u'r still defending Rafa with ur ideas.. but no one knows what would happen if it was up to Leo since August with the same squad that Rafa had..
just like u, i'm eagerly waiting for his press conference

If our point was to screw wiht Milan, then Rijkaard would be much better option!

think about it, what impressive difference is there when u compare Rijkaard to Benitez ?
at least Leo had the chance to coach in Italy, something Rijkaard hasn't had
 
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Anyways we have to support our new coach he is part of inter now. Time will tell if it was a good or bad desigion.
 

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Last year Panathinaikos was not a super team and yet managed to get 6 goals against Roma. Not such a good year i must say IN EUROPE... where every team shows what they can do. We were winning championships with Mancini but the Champions League cemented Inter in Europe's elite. Am i wrong?

So now its 'IN EUROPE', way to pull a reversal to suit your argument :rollani:. We lost to Pana at home in 08/09 btw.

Fact is that is Roma almost won the scudetto last season and its astonishingly stupid to say that 'that they had the worst season in a decade'. That they went out to Pana in the KO stages of the Uefa cup is hardly a valid measurement to how good they were. They had off days in those KO games, but ran over their group easily, defeated finallist Fullham in the progress.

Roma and Madrid were far better teams last season than Milan were and thats what makes the victories great.

As for beating Juventus, your being silly for devaluing 2 x 3-0 victories, absolutely ridiculous. If beating Juve 3-0 is nothing then losing 2-1 to them like we must have been the biggest disaster of all time :rollani:, please enough with this nonsense. Beating Juve is always a great victory, especially 3-0 at the olimpico.

You are talking about Milan like they had somekinda super squad last season that they should have won everything with, which is hardly the case, they had many issues and werent half the squad they are this year with their new signings.

Everything taken into consideration Leonardo did well with the limited potential he had available, the facts and statistics confirms and you trying to devalue it just makes you look silly.

If you intend to reply to this post, i suggest you actually have some facts to back up your claims rather that just saying 'X were shit last season, so its not a big deal that Leonardo defeated them'.
 
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