Liverpool - Inter (19 Feb 08)

[Edlaut]

Probably the worst performance for us this year. I thought we got the lesson after Fener match, but this game was even worse. I wish for small miracle on Meazza, so we can go ahead. And the game will be just 2 days past our Centenary, I hope our guys won't be that drunk

 

[Ajesh]

This 4-4-2 was actually 10-0-2 if you take a good glimpse. Just take a look at this:

I completely agree it was 9-0-1.Its an Old Italian Mentality that will just mean you will suck bigtime in away matches in Champions League of Today.
Even Milan played like this in England last year against Manchester United but they have Kaka but Inter cannot play like this and hope to be Champions of Europe.

 

[Pravesh]

Come on we are not out yet. I don't see any reason ruling out a 3-0 win to us at Meazza.

:stuckup:

NON MOLLARE MAI. If we play like we have been playing our Serie games (not the recent ones), we can overturn the result in the second leg in our home. I don't think the absence of Materazzi would effect us that much but we will surely miss Cordoba. But thanks to our squad's depth, we still have Rivas or Burdisso to partner Chivu in the heart of the defence.

We should have never changed our tactic, as we had been playing with 4-3-1-2 and Mancini should really change his weirdo habit of changing the tactics in big, especially Champs League games. I have had enough of it now.

We must attack Liverpool from the start and I am very hopeful that we can get past Liverpool, with the form they are in this season. But for that to happen, we might need Figo, Zlatan, Cruz/Suazo/Crespo, STankovic and all at their best.

Too bad we didn't score an away goal.

Btw, we played like shit even when we were playing with 11 and Matrix was having all the difficulties with Torres.



FORZA INTER !!

 

[thomas_inter]

i dont usually post in threads outside ndu no more, but id just like to point out some of you are absolute dicks.

Yes, despite our best defensive showing of the year we probably played our worst game in 2-3 years. And yes you have every right to be pissed off, thats what makes us fans.

but to the idiots who want mancini sacked and say this team is shit, need to have a glass of harden the **** up.

Our team needs an overhaul? please. One game does not make up for years of being the best in italy. We would not have beat european and world champions milan so many times if we werent.

tactics was not at fault today, i wouldnt blame mancini. our team were overwhelmed and just made it harder on themselves. whenever we had the ball we would jsut bomb it foward back to them. we did not even try once to hold some proper posession, passing backwards etc..thats what makes us deadly.


and i just want to clear up somethings.

• a new AM will not of changed an absolute thing. Could of had platini or pele there and they would of done nothing, cause we wouldnt of even got them the ball.
• how the **** can anyone put any blame on ibra, we didnt even give him one chance to do anything.
• matrix was ****ing careless
• 2-0. it isnt over yet.

:thumbsup: Applausi

 

[thomas_inter]

As a ballsy armchair manager I would have inserted Suazo nearly immediately after Matrix's send off or at the very least at the half time. there were several breaks were you just would have wished it was Suazo dribbling the ball and not Cruz or Viera.

The more I think of that the more dissapointed it makes me.

I totally agree with you.
For instance let Ibra play as SS he can take the balls from midfield to Suazo who can use his dribbling ability. Than we have something like a 4-3-1-1.

That would have been defensive enough to do well at the back, (also because we played with a very defensive minded midfield) and we could put some pressure on L'pool on the way I just mentioned. Zlatan taking balls up-front and Suazo making the best of it.

I can't stand those people who are blaming Zlatan, really I don't get you, he's one of the world's best strikers, he isn't God.

You all can shout things like "Sack Mancini" but I don't think you have the right to do until you win Serie A two times and earn 5 million pounds a year.

We can and we must overturn this result.
Forza Inter, Non Mollare Mai (*)
I won't take off my Inter scarf today.

 

[Luka]

Our attitude towards this game was just shamefull. I can't believe there are still people who think it wasn't that bad. If you do, I hope you watched the highlights from yesterdays game to see how Chelsea played, or how Real played away from home.

They were not like scarded rubbits there. The next opportunity to see that will be today in other games.

Us on the other hand, we lost this game before we entered on the field, before the kick-off. You have to have a respect for a team like Liverpool, you have to play more deffensively than at home, but it looked like the liverpool players were gods to our own. It wasn't a respect anymore, it looked like they were afraid of them, and want this game to finish as soon as possible.

I mean, this first 30 minutes were so dreadfull, it should be a shame for every nerazzurro. Mancio again got chicken out and went for the save option, when he fielded that ridiculus 4-4-2 tactic. That should be everybody first clue, that something is wrong.

 

[UhUhOleguer]

the yellow-red card to Matrix was the biggest joke I have ever seen...simply impossible..non of the "fouls" would have deserved even a yellow.
But, Inter from the beginning left too much space between the lines and put too little pressure on Liverpool. You don't have to play defensive, just make sure you don't let them play and your team plays compact, not with huge gaps between the lines.
I'm totally puzzled by what Vieira tried to play...I still don't know what that was supposed to be.
Ibra is the one with the least of fault..

 

[Interista nr.1]

Our attitude towards this game was just shamefull. I can't believe there are still people who think it wasn't that bad. If you do, I hope you watched the highlights from yesterdays game to see how Chelsea played, or how Real played away from home.

They were not like scarded rubbits there. The next opportunity to see that will be today in other games.

Us on the other hand, we lost this game before we entered on the field, before the kick-off. You have to have a respect for a team like Liverpool, you have to play more deffensively than at home, but it looked like the liverpool players were gods to our own. It wasn't a respect anymore, it looked like they were afraid of them, and want this game to finish as soon as possible.

I mean, this first 30 minutes were so dreadfull, it should be a shame for every nerazzurro. Mancio again got chicken out and went for the save option, when he fielded that ridiculus 4-4-2 tactic. That should be everybody first clue, that something is wrong.

he went for 442 tactic because he knows t Stankovic is not good as am. he can play in the midle, but not as am, he's just too slow for that. And Figo was not ready.

 

[Luka]

he went for 442 tactic because he knows t Stankovic is not good as am. he can play in the midle, but not as am, he's just too slow for that. And Figo was not ready.

The last thing Stankovic is, is slow. What about the milanese derby when we won 4-3. How about that brilliant counter attack. He was running there like a dog. Is he slow?

I agree, and said many times Stankovic is not good as a AM to play, WHEN WE PLAY POSSESION FOOTBALL. What kind of football we played yesteday? We didn't even play deffensively, because when you do, you are playing counter-attack to pose some threat. And we didn't do a bit. We didn't scare them with anything. And after that they became more aggresive, more dominant. After that Benitez thought this is some kind of a joke, but Hey! If they don't want to score a goal what is the point of keeping so many deffensive minded players on the field. So Crouch came.

I'm just tired of it. Every year is the same. We could play with Stankovic with Suazo up front, and Ibra, and play beautifull counter attack. We would counter them once, twice, and they wouldn't step on our toes so much. It was and it should be, a clearly sad day for every Nerazzurro for the way we played.

 

[scutzon]

Very disappointing result. We should have done a lot better. We played very defensively, but I think that's the result of Materazzi's sending off. It was two very unlucky goals, for us. The first goal was a defensive error by leaving Kuyt unmarked, but we couldn't have possibly done anything for the second.

But we should have attacked when we could though, and I didn't see that yesterday. Ibra was left all alone up front, and there was nothing he could do. Could have done a lot better offensively.

Regarding Materazzi's sending off, I think that it was extremely harsh indeed. For his first yellow card, Materazzi didn't even touch Torres, IMO. From all the replays, I didn't see him clipping Torres; heel at all. The second was a bit more difficult to say, but Torres fell down a clean second after the hand on his shoulder. That was a blatant dive, although Materazzi did wrong trying to pull him back.

All in all, I expect a much better performance in the return leg in San Siro. 2-0 is a big deficit, but we can do it. We just need to play with confidence.

 

[Cro Nerazzurro]

Red card to Matrix was disccusting, i hate belgia from now on. He didn tdeserve one yellow at most, not to say 2.

Ok, we need AM who will always look for the ball, but we cant get him now, so lets talk what we can do till the end of season, and Ill tell you i think we have more then good optionsin Patrick and Figo.
They just have to get into fitness for 2nd leg match, and then we can beat Pool. hard-but posibble

 

[shahz_nerazzurri]

You all can shout things like "Sack Mancini" but I don't think you have the right to do until you win Serie A two times and earn 5 million pounds a year.
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Mate I could have won us the SERIEA last year. Even this year, any half a*ss manager could have won it to us, with all the refereeing decisions we are getting. Even this year we dont have any decent competition. SERIEA is becoming shit and shit every year, its not like winning EPL or Laliga.


that 5 mills is also another joke. Mancini just hit the gold mine. Its sad to see Mancnini making so much, when tacticians 10x better than him like Spaletti and Prandelli make so little.
I can bet, that when we sack Mancini, his next job would be at a lowly club like Siena or Fulham. He doesnt deserve better.

 

[M.Adnan]

:yawn::yawn::yawn:

This couldn't be more boring. Same boring story every year.

Anyhow, the only positive thing I can think about is being 0-2 down, might, maybe, possibly, hopefully will force Mancini to play more attacking football in Milano.

I would understand the defending plan if we were facing Barcelona or Arsenal, but Liverpool? couldn't we just burn them like we do every time with Milan?

Our next plan in Milano: start the game slowly, let Liverpool attack and leave some spaces behind them, and then wait and hope that we get lucky and score two goals from 2 half counter attacks in the entire game, so we can reach the penalties.

I'm so disappointed right now. All what I have to do until next year is watch Inter beating Reggina and Atalanta, and then watch another coppa italia final against Roma for the forth time. Can't wait for that!!

 

[Azzkikr]

I don't agree with you Azz, about the midfielders. JZ and Cuchu? They are world class and everybody knows it. But not everybody knows, that you need someone in front of them who can take the ball, pose some threat.

Yes, they are worlclass, at what they do -being DM's, not at whats needed - better, faster passing and ability to get the ball forward with the team.

None of them are great passers, none of them are particularly fast, none of them are very good at carrying the ball forward at their feet or finding the right teammates to pass.

Throw chivu and stankovic into the equation as well, and you have the least likely midfield in the world to be able to withstand pressure. In europe there is constant pressure, the midfielders needs to be skillfull and quick and to be alot faster with the passes and more accurate than any of midfielders are.

This isnt Serie A where you only get pressure from the opposing players when you get into their half of the pitch, there is pressure all over the pitch in euro games. Its so evident when we play away games, that our midfielders simply arent good enough to withstand pressure, they arent technicaly or quick enough to pass the ball around fast enough and then at the same getting forward on the pitch, its shows in every single away game in europe. You simply cant play 4 midfielders who are so similar in terms of their strenghs and weaknesses and then expect to do well in europe. Our midfield is way to unbalanced in terms of strenghs/weaknesses. And an over-the-hill figo who is slow as a turtle or a finished Vieira wont change anything either, especially because they are supposed to carry the team, they cant anymore.

This is purely mancini's fault, despite 4 years of complete failures in the CL with this away game syndrome occuring every game, he has changed nothing, not requested new midfielders who has the attributes to change this. Instead he has stuck with what works in Serie A, but failed to realise that what works in serie a doesnt nessecarily work in europe. And this is dispite of it being being evident for 4 seasons now, everyone has seen it apart from mancini. If that doesnt prove he isnt a good tactician i dont know what does.

We have a team build for Serie A, but our lack of speed, creativity, passing and ability to move the ball forward quickly as a team makes it completely useless in europe.

And there is no point being angry at mancini for not playing more offensive. When you put a midfield with JZ, cambiasso and chivu who are all defensive minded, doesnt withstand pressure well when they have the ball, and stankovic who is as mediocre as they come in terms of passing and has zero creativity, you cant really expect any offensive flow, we simply dont have the player to do so. Its the way mancini made the team, it works in serie a, but not in the europe.

 

[Zamorano1+8=9]

Just a few things I have to say about the match:
Materazzi's red-card was bullsh!t.
Was very impressed by Chivu, thought he saved us a few goals.(Julio Cesar too)
Maicon did not cover his man, and we all know what happened after that.

We did play a good game for a team with 10-men. But with all the haters we face saying we're "paper champions", we have to do better than this!

 

[minterke]

any half a*ss manager could have won it to us, with all the refereeing decisions we are getting.

What refeering decisions you ****in idiot? Only an idiot from Toronto would say what you said.

Now you're saying we're calciopolizing Serie A? You're like those 14 yr old Juventus fans on goal.com that come up with ridiculous conspiracies because they're so fat and get bullied in the playgrounds by Inter fans like me.

Referee decisions, you fkn judas..

We won because we won on the pitch and played like Champions, and 1 bad game vs. Liverpool and 1 bad penalty called in our favour won't change my mind because I'm not gullable, you can't pull the wool over my eyes.

 

[Adam]

Great post Azz. Right on the money.

You too Mike, but why are you bullyin 14 year olds? Aren't you a little too old for that?

 

[marc]

Still all to play for.Refs make decisions, good and bad, just get on with it.
But even with all 11 players on, Inter didn't play attacking football.Seemed they were happy to play for a draw,but the occasion got to them.
Inter fans who travelled were brilliant, loud and bouncing,and an absolute credit to their club.
I wish you well for the 11th,and good luck for the rest of your league campaign.

 

[alvaro]

But even with all 11 players on, Inter didn't play attacking football.Seemed they were happy to play for a draw,but the occasion got to them.

Yep, but we prolly wouldn't have lost either with 11 players, at least not by 2 goals. Also substitutes could have been introduced that would have been useless with 10 men. But anyways the game is over now and we need a small miracle to go through.

 

[shahz_nerazzurri]

What refeering decisions you ****in idiot? Only an idiot from Toronto would say what you said.

Now you're saying we're calciopolizing Serie A? You're like those 14 yr old Juventus fans on goal.com that come up with ridiculous conspiracies because they're so fat and get bullied in the playgrounds by Inter fans like me.

Referee decisions, you fkn judas..

We won because we won on the pitch and played like Champions, and 1 bad game vs. Liverpool and 1 bad penalty called in our favour won't change my mind because I'm not gullable, you can't pull the wool over my eyes.

Go suck a lemon you dumb f-ck.

I was pointing out the fact, that Mancini's job has been made so easy by the circumstances that have been going on, in the league. MAncini knows how to grind out rsults against smaller teams in SEREIA, but then again, if you think that the last two SERIEA's that we won (I am assuming that we win this one), were as tough as the one in the late 90s or early 2000s, then you are an idiot of the highest order.
We are winning because we are the best team in Italy, but that is because our opponents in Italy are not good enough, its not because we have an amazing team.

I didnt say we are calciopolizing SERIEA, stop trying to be a drama queen.


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