Lucas Rodrigues Moura da Silva

Status
Not open for further replies.

b4h4mooth

Capitano
Capitano
Joined
Apr 3, 2010
Messages
4,981
Likes
0
Favorite Player
Conte
Sao Paolo Vice President : " Lucas is worth 80 M"





d.jpg
 

DirettaInter

Prima Squadra
Prima Squadra
Joined
Mar 25, 2012
Messages
559
Likes
0
Favorite Player
Mario Balotelli
So his "dream is to play for Madrid" well what a surprise, might as well close this thread pretty clear to me we have about a snowball's chance in hell of getting him now other teams are actually seriously interested in him.:work:

The papers twisted that, he only said that they are a big club and he would happily wear their shirt. Anyway, he said this about Inter a few months ago:

http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/tran...cas-moura-dreams-of-inter-switch-they-are-one

---------- Post added at 07:38 ---------- Previous post was at 07:33 ----------

Anyway, let's just hope that Sao Paolo stand their grounds and keep him until 2014 because at the minute we have got a very little chance of getting him if rich clubs like Chelsea and Real Madrid are interested. My hope is that in 2014, we will have the CRCC (the Chinese company that were interested in helping us build a stadium and also investing in us) backing us up therefore we may have the nearly the same money as those other big clubs which would make us true contenders for his signature! Those few years also give Juan Jesus, Coutinho (and maybe Oscar) time to develop in to great players at Inter which will develop Lucas' wishes of joining Inter due to their Brazilian players.
 

Ronaldo

R9
La Grande Inter
Joined
Oct 11, 2010
Messages
11,376
Likes
20
Favorite Player
Ronaldo
10 years of FIF
I agree that the papers twisted his words.

They asked him about RM and he said it would be a dream to play for a big team like RM. What can he say? He can't say "No I don't want RM".


Look at this from Lucas's point of view. Inter are broke and he can't wait for them for ever. He has to keep his options open.
 

douglasthiago

Prima Squadra
Prima Squadra
Joined
Mar 28, 2012
Messages
513
Likes
0
Favorite Player
Shingo Aoi
he is not 20 yet and our scouts got fooled, and cou failed, LOL

:palm: thats not even funny

Sometimes things are what they are. For instance, it's pretty clear to me that Destro will never be world class, and he's young as well. Coutinho hasn't developed as expected from the ages of 15 to 18, so it's unreasonable to assume that he will now.

I'll compare him to Lucas, to be fair. Lucas was relatively unknown until he was 17-18 but since then he's been constantly developing, which prompted him to gain his current reputation.

Being hyped at 15, it's easier to become another Freddy Adu than another Ronaldo.
 

n4l

Allenatore
Allenatore
Joined
Jul 22, 2007
Messages
9,743
Likes
10
Favorite Player
Mancini
10 years of FIF
Lucas is raw but extremely overrated and overpriced. Right now, imo, coutinho is better than lucas, especially considering they are both practically the same age (b'day within 1 month). And honestly, coutinho has potential to be better than him, especially if cou plays more this year for Inter and lucas stays in brazil.

Lucas price should be more around 15-17mil tbh. And that is factoring in this ridiculous transfer market. I mean, seriously, he is not that good. He has raw speed and good temperament, but that's it. He doesn't have exceptional ball control, passing, dribbling, creativity, shooting, finishing, off-the-ball movement, tactical awareness e.t.c. I really don't get his hype tbh. I mean, when diego, pato, robinho e.t.c. were his age, they were far better than he is right now. I mean, compare him to neymar who's only 6 months older and is imo, MILES better in every facet of the game. Brazil is really struggling for talents if they keep pushing lucas as this hot star.

I mean, real talk. What's the difference between lucas and oxlade-chamberlain? Wouldn't you laugh in wenger's face if he said oxlade was worth 30+mil? I know I would.
 

Suneet

La Grande Inter
La Grande Inter
Joined
Sep 13, 2006
Messages
16,285
Likes
8
Favorite Player
# 3
Forum Supporter
I'd still take the risk on him and throw in a few extra million. I mean who else can we sign right now?
 

KevinB

La Grande Inter
La Grande Inter
Joined
Nov 25, 2010
Messages
12,488
Likes
2,391
Favorite Player
Adriano
10 years of FIF
I'd still take the risk on him and throw in a few extra million. I mean who else can we sign right now?
Sahin
Alejandro Gomez
De Jong
I won't take the risk with him, if you want a huge player and throw a little more millions in it. We should go for Jovetic. IF he wants to leave Firenze..
 

Suneet

La Grande Inter
La Grande Inter
Joined
Sep 13, 2006
Messages
16,285
Likes
8
Favorite Player
# 3
Forum Supporter
Sahin is a forward? There is no place in our midfield right now, we need to really sell 2 players if we get him. Also Sahin wants to stay in Madrid. Also what does De Jong bring that we don't have?

Gomez is less of a risk, I might agree but still not the star signing we are looking for..
 

KevinB

La Grande Inter
La Grande Inter
Joined
Nov 25, 2010
Messages
12,488
Likes
2,391
Favorite Player
Adriano
10 years of FIF
Sahin is a forward? There is no place in our midfield right now, we need to really sell 2 players if we get him. Also Sahin wants to stay in Madrid. Also what does De Jong bring that we don't have?

Gomez is less of a risk, I might agree but still not the star signing we are looking for..
I just wanted to show that we still can get other options.
A player wants to stay in Madrid desperately, where have I heard this before.. :work:
De Jong is 27. Cuchu is 31. Cuchu can't play all the games as a DM. But anyway it all depends on Strama. If he only wishes to play a 4-2-3-1 , Sahin wouldn't be needed. However if he does want to play a 4-3-3 or 4-3-2-1 , Sahin wouldn't be a bad idea. But anyway wrong thread. Sorry for off-topic.
 

douglasthiago

Prima Squadra
Prima Squadra
Joined
Mar 28, 2012
Messages
513
Likes
0
Favorite Player
Shingo Aoi
Lucas is raw but extremely overrated and overpriced. Right now, imo, coutinho is better than lucas

I think you got the general idea. What I strongly disagree is just that Coutinho isn't better than Lucas and maybe never will be, even if Lucas stays here forever. It's possible but not very likely.

My point is: right now, Coutinho is just as overrated as Lucas is.
 

Fapuccino

La Grande Inter
La Grande Inter
Joined
Apr 3, 2012
Messages
15,129
Likes
919
Favorite Player
Schelotto
Wtf do we need another young attacking midfielder for, we already got cou and ricky, plus sneijder. If u sell alvarez ok,just please dont loan cou out again.
 

n4l

Allenatore
Allenatore
Joined
Jul 22, 2007
Messages
9,743
Likes
10
Favorite Player
Mancini
10 years of FIF
I think you got the general idea. What I strongly disagree is just that Coutinho isn't better than Lucas and maybe never will be, even if Lucas stays here forever. It's possible but not very likely.

My point is: right now, Coutinho is just as overrated as Lucas is.

Truthfully speaking, I really don't get how someone can say Lucas is better than Coutinho. No matter how I break it down, it just cannot be so.

- If I look at actual technical skills, Coutinho wins.
- If I look at creativity, Coutinho wins.
- If I look at tactical ability, Coutinho wins.
- If I look at physical attributes, Lucas wins.
- If I look at composure/quality in front of goal, they both are average.

If I decide to ignore actual personal skills and look at accomplishments, how they play, experience e.t.c., Coutinho STILL WINS. Coutinho has played in europe, in Italy and Spain, in CL and this season in Europa. He has NOT FLOPPED and has shown some games with good quality. And of course, he is coming off an impressive stint with Espanyol.

All Lucas can say is he gets called up for Brazil and he's being super hyped. That's it.

Coutinho cannot be overrated. Maybe overrated by Inter fans but not overrated in general. Lucas is HUGELY OVERRATED. As I said, even Oxlade-Chamberlain is imo, better than him and I can guarantee you nobody is screaming about Oxlade being some world beater, star quality player, or 30mil player. I mean, if Lucas is 30+mil, what the fuck is Goetze then? 60mil?

Lucas is brazilian and that's it. That's why he's hyped. Hopefully he'll end up like Casimiro (remember, the guy who was "worth 25mil" by Sao Paulo cause everybody in Europre wanted him? :lol:) or Ganso (remember, the 40mil player everybody in Europe wanted :lol:). Good players for sure, but clearly not worth anything close to what Sao Paulo and Brazilian media is hyping them to be worth.
 

douglasthiago

Prima Squadra
Prima Squadra
Joined
Mar 28, 2012
Messages
513
Likes
0
Favorite Player
Shingo Aoi
Coutinho has played in europe, in Italy and Spain, in CL and this season in Europa. He has NOT FLOPPED and has shown some games with good quality. And of course, he is coming off an impressive stint with Espanyol.

That's exactly why I disagree. It doesn't mean anything until he comes back and keep playing well. Other than that, I've seen very few games where Coutinho played well for Inter.

Lucas is much more of a match winner than Coutinho will ever be. That doesn't decide who will be better in the end, though, but I bet on Lucas, even if I'm against he coming to Inter right now.

The way I see, Coutinho will be the 4th option in a 4-2-3-1, with Sneijder, Palacio and Alvarez ahead of him.
 

Pimpin

I'm better than Icardi
La Grande Inter
Joined
Jul 13, 2011
Messages
17,064
Likes
1,245
Favorite Player
22IcardiBroHand
Old username
DomesticatedPimp
10 years of FIF
why did you have to mention goetze :cry:

Id sell wes to get Goetze :cry:
 

MANTA

Capitano
Capitano
Joined
Jan 28, 2012
Messages
1,738
Likes
0
10 years of FIF
Coutinho was nominated one of the top 11 young players in La Liga this season. Not only was he the youngest player nominated (most were two years older than him), he is the only player to do so having only played half a season. Add to that the fact that almost all the other nominees have been in the spanish league for years now. To be able to impress after not only joining a new team half way through, but a whole new league when you are only 19 is a very impressive feat. How people can still write him off despite that is beyond me.
 

douglasthiago

Prima Squadra
Prima Squadra
Joined
Mar 28, 2012
Messages
513
Likes
0
Favorite Player
Shingo Aoi
The thing is La Liga is not Serie A. If he can't make that transition we're back to square one.

If Inter had to pay anything for him to come as it's the case with Lucas, I'd be against both. Since Coutinho is already an Inter player, then he'll come back and prove he can make that transition. If he can, then and only then he can be regarded as a good player. So far they're both nothing but good prospects who have shown great talent but achieved close to nothing.
 

MANTA

Capitano
Capitano
Joined
Jan 28, 2012
Messages
1,738
Likes
0
10 years of FIF
If reports are to be believed, Inter is preparing a 25m bid for Lucas. But if we are lucky Juve are going to step in and screw it up.
 

DirettaInter

Prima Squadra
Prima Squadra
Joined
Mar 25, 2012
Messages
559
Likes
0
Favorite Player
Mario Balotelli
Inter want Lucas at all costs.

Inter are preparing a new deal and this time Pirelli could also come forward and pay some of the fee.



http://www.fcinternews.it/?action=read&idnotizia=82036

We should make an offer of 20 million and Pirelli can add in 10 million which would obviously bring the total to 30 million! I would be very happy to get Lucas now because I can see us kicking ourselves in a few years time if we don't!
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top