Luiz Nazario Ronaldo Da Lima

[brehme1989]

Ronaldo never won a Scudetto and he's almost retired now. So great choice Moratti.

You have definetly become an Inter fan in the last 3 years...

 

[Suneet]

Ronaldo was playing by himself, Cuper changed the balance(thankfully), but showed no respect to Ronaldo and even forced him to play when not totally fit, after destroying his knee twice...

Instead of whining why he left, you should be honoured that he was here.:star:

CUPER destroyed Ronaldo's knees?:frustrat::wth:

Really, Yuko this is fanboyism at its best, I cant remember anything like that. Cuper brought him slowly and steadily into the team, Fatty scored his 1st comeback against Cheivo and I wept listening to Scarpini.

Give respect to Cuperman for making us play as a team. With the squad we had we should never have got to the 4th place in the league, but we did much much better than that. We were leading at halftime on the 5th of May.

Ronnie was good in his first season, I completely agree, but for that 1 season we endured his injuries, paid him money and let him go to Real, who didnt pay up for 2 years.:joker::rules:

 

[brehme1989]

First, I said his knee was destroyed twice, not that Cuper destroyed them

Second, even Cuper himself said that a Ronaldo at 70% is better than most players. Well, Ronaldo at 70% with a fragile knee is not a safe bet. Ronaldo was reluctant to play, but because basically we weren't good enough, we needed him. Yeah, go praise Cuper for this... Had Ronaldo hit his knee once more back then, then it would be over at that time.

You calling me a fanboy is really funny. I didn't become an Inter fan because of Ronaldo, I was an Inter fan when Ronaldo was still at PSV and only a portion of the people that know him did back then. Whereas you claim that he's a traitor, despise the guts out of him, and make silly statements like: Ronaldo never won a Scudetto and he's almost retired now. So great choice Moratti.

Are you facking kidding me? Have you watched any Inter games in the past? Do you know why the heck we didn't win a Scudetto with Ronaldo or even before him? Do you know what started happening ever since 1992?

Ronaldo has been more loyal to Inter than your sorry brain can imagine. Ask Dejan Stankovic how it is to play injured. He was doing it two years ago, with back problems.

Ronaldo wanted to leave the Serie A, yes, he was tired of the hardness of the game, especially against him. But he didn't because of Inter, until Cuper said I don't want you, I want Crespo(not that Crespo is not as good, he was the best scorer in Italy) but you cannot say that Ronaldo betrayed Inter or anything. Ronaldo was just pissed that after winning the World Cup Golden Boot, his own team, that invested so much on him, turned its back on him, not the other way round.

 

[Harmonyofdissonance]

Ronaldo never won a Scudetto and he's almost retired now. So great choice Moratti.

Big pain in the right knee, well most of our current squad have and will play through the pain barrier, its normal these days, but just playin with some pain in the knee doesnt compensate for all the "I want to join Real" crying. You make me hate him even more.

Cmon all the Fatnaldo haters, lets unite.:dielaugh:

Once again, I have to quote Sunny....

Im here, ready to unite with all fatnaldo haters in the world. Finally my vodoo has worked out ^^

 

[rockball]

Yes our voodoo has truly worked out!!

I surely remember how Ronaldo whined to get out of Inter.
Fair enough if he felt he had a better chance to win there and if Serie A was too tough for him.

Why the fukk did he come back and to Milan?

Just because he had a bit of a tough time under Capello and had to work harder..he chose to quit and again badmouth the coach, the club and everything else involved.

A similar scene would repeat at Milan..the relationship between him and the club was again not the best recently.

Its amazing how anyone can still support him.

 

[Suneet]

First, I said his knee was destroyed twice, not that Cuper destroyed them

Second, even Cuper himself said that a Ronaldo at 70% is better than most players. Well, Ronaldo at 70% with a fragile knee is not a safe bet. Ronaldo was reluctant to play, but because basically we weren't good enough, we needed him. Yeah, go praise Cuper for this... Had Ronaldo hit his knee once more back then, then it would be over at that time.

You calling me a fanboy is really funny. I didn't become an Inter fan because of Ronaldo, I was an Inter fan when Ronaldo was still at PSV and only a portion of the people that know him did back then. Whereas you claim that he's a traitor, despise the guts out of him, and make silly statements like: Ronaldo never won a Scudetto and he's almost retired now. So great choice Moratti.

Ronaldo has been more loyal to Inter than your sorry brain can imagine. Ask Dejan Stankovic how it is to play injured. He was doing it two years ago, with back problems.

Ronaldo wanted to leave the Serie A, yes, he was tired of the hardness of the game, especially against him. But he didn't because of Inter, until Cuper said I don't want you, I want Crespo(not that Crespo is not as good, he was the best scorer in Italy) but you cannot say that Ronaldo betrayed Inter or anything. Ronaldo was just pissed that after winning the World Cup Golden Boot, his own team, that invested so much on him, turned its back on him, not the other way round.

1.Ok Cuper didnt destroy his knees, sorry about that. Blame it on rage. We were leading in the league UNDER CALCIOPOLI, WITHOUT HIM, not because he was our "saviour" a la Pato. I might be wrong here again.

2. FYI, I didnt become an Interista in the last 3 years, I'm here because of CUPER:star: since then.

3. Even this posts shows your blind love for Ronaldo, maybe your not a fanboy but your in love with him.

4. Ronaldo doesnt become loyal to Inter just by you and a couple of other guys keep saying he was, there is hardly any proof of that. The fact that he joined our city rivals shows how much he "loved" Inter. If I'm not wrong he won the Golden ball in the season he was apparently playing injured. Moratti was like his father, correct?

5. First you mention that Cuper said Ronaldo at 70% is better than most and then in the last few lines you mentioned that Cuper told him to leave? Knowing Cuperman of then, I can vouch that he wasnt that moronic.

6. Ronaldo wanted to leave because he was a glory hunter, he cried when he coudnt win on the 5th of May and got fed up and asked to leave. During the 2002 World Cup all we kept hearing was that Real were close to signing him, before he got the Golden Boot.

7. Heres the angry part. How the fark can you say we turned our backs on him? Who was paying for his 2 year rehabilitation? We did every-single-farking thing that we had to.

He coudnt handle strict coaches, the only time he flourished was when he was working according to his whims and fancies. I still dont see any loyalty...

 

[Stefan]

Well, Ronaldo's first season with us was one of the best an Inter player ever had. If I remember correctly, he lost the scoring title that year because Bierhoff was out of this world.

Besides, at the times of Ronaldo, we didn't exactly have a well-balanced team like we have now. Not defending him, but truth has to be told, his first season with us was exceptional, but it takes more than one player to win titles.

Not always a certain player who played for Napoli won titles for them on his own.

As for Yuko and Kova it seems fatboy has been able to brainwash at least two guys into believing cuper wanted him out.

Cuper is his scapegoat. Hector has in the past denied he wanted ronaldo out. And to be perfectly clear I will cuper's word over the ingrato each and every time.

Ronaldo claimed he loved Inter, if that was the case he would have stayed and fought for his spot under cuper and would never have signed for bbilan.

 

[Suneet]

Ronaldo claimed he loved Inter, if that was the case he would have stayed and fought for his spot under cuper and would never have signed for bbilan.

...even when a father-like figure openly came out and said that he woudnt like it.

He woudnt have celebrated in the way he did when he scored against us. His face didnt show respect/loyalty.

I wont be suprised if he returned and played for Argentina

 

[Luka]

oh my god.

OH MY GOD!!!

You don't believe me, you don't believe others? How about "these" guys?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wftrhKT0Mw

 

[VLE]

After Solari didn't agree on his wage with us at that time, RM did not pay us in full. Ronaldo should have returned back to inter at that time, guess who refused to come back.

There is a reason why many interisti hate him so much. Even Materazzi is still angry at him because fatty didn't even say goodbye to any of his teammates when he left. Only Moratti heard it. It was not Cuper that Ronaldo didn't like, he just didn't give a shyt about inter and decided not to show any respect.

Truly, even Maldini, Seedorf and some milanisti showed more respect towards us than he did.

 

[Adam]

Talk about a thread getting derailed because someone says "legend" and "Ronaldo" in the same sentence.

As far as I'm concerned Ronaldo is and will always be a football legend, but he will never be an Inter legend.

I mean, based on merit alone it's debatable but IMO when he put his hands by his ears in taunting fashion, after he scored in the derby it basicly removed any chance he had of being recognized as an Inter legend.

Had he not done that I honestly think fans around Italy could of eventually given him legendary status but when you show such disrespect for the club your treachery is 100% complete and it removes any good performances you might of had with a club.

 

[brehme1989]

Okay, he's not loyal and he's not an Interista because he joined Milan 5 years after leaving Inter. Does that mean Meazza was not an Inter fan, didn't respect the club etc?

Yes, Solari did not come and Cuper said that he doesn't need Ronaldo. He had Crespo and Vieri. Ronaldo was quite settled at Real as well.

The problem is that you loved Ronaldo TOOOOOO MUCH. Unlike me, who I simply saw him as just another Inter player. He may have been the best player we've ever had, but as players like van der Meyde, Lamouchi, Almeyda, Djorkaeff, Simeone, Baggio, Zamorano etc, they all leave. Ronaldo was bigger than Inter, he certainly was. That's why it hurt you when Cuper tossed him out. Cuper wanted teamwork, Ronaldo was best at free role(like Zlatan is now). What if a new coach comes instead of Mancini and the Ronaldo case happens with Zlatan. Zlatan will become the new hate figure for you guys. Anyhow, when you start viewing Ronaldo as an Inter player, and not as a godly player, then you'll realise that it's more logical that Cuper forced him out of the club.

And if Ronaldo is not an Inter legend, then who in the recent era besides Zanetti is? Answer? Him and Vieri among a few others like Djorkaeff and Simeone. Vieri went to Milan->traitor. Ronaldo went to Real and then Milan->traitor. Simeone took away our championship chance in 2002->hardly ever mentioned... Can anyone explain why? I believe it's already explained, but if someone has a better answer then just tell me

And ask ANY football fan. Which club does Ronaldo remind them of? Inter of course. Same for Vieri. These are the players that give Inter its prestige, and if you can't acknowledge that to them then you shouldn't call yourselves Inter fans. You may hate them all you want, bash them etc, but the fact is that without them we are just another football team.


P.S: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKyUfiOzMQQ&NR=1 Here is Seedorf's so called respect. Why is Ronaldo any different?

 

[bennyblanco]

Not always a certain player who played for Napoli won titles for them on his own.

As for Yuko and Kova it seems fatboy has been able to brainwash at least two guys into believing cuper wanted him out.

Cuper is his scapegoat. Hector has in the past denied he wanted ronaldo out. And to be perfectly clear I will cuper's word over the ingrato each and every time.

Ronaldo claimed he loved Inter, if that was the case he would have stayed and fought for his spot under cuper and would never have signed for bbilan.

great post Stefan....i hate players that have a peculiar understanding of loyalty especially airing their views through the media then demanding a tranfer through that same outlet..bringing disrepute and alienating themselves from the core of the club,maybe this might be viewed as racist but i believe Brasilians excel at these backstabbing practices

i STILL CANT BELIEVE that posters are BLAMING CUPER for FATKNTS exodus...
he wanted Madrid after getting payed for reCUPERation and done everythng in his power to air his dirty laundry through Reals array of media hype and speculation..take Kaka for example and Reals continues media recall of him and then multiply it by 50 times and that was the scenario

 

[Adam]

For a player that leaves a club, for him to be considered a legend, he would have to show respect to the club and it's fans regardless of how good he was or how much he did for it.

To prove this theory I ask you to answer this question.

Hypotheticly let's say a player gives five years of his life to a club and wins two CL, two CI and three scudetti while performing like a God and the fans are also treating him like one.
Then, he leaves because of contract disputes and joins the closest rival with a nice big payraise. He then goes on to score against his old club and in his celebration he points to the club's faithfull and flips them off, spits on the ground and grabs his cock.

After the match he gives a long interview of how much he hates the "opposing" team, fans and players and how he wishes he could feck all their mothers.
Now, do you think that player will be remembered as a legend at said club?
No, I guarantee he won't because his treachery and disrespect overshadows his achievments with it.

Now this is an extreme example and I doubt it will ever happen, but the Ronaldo saga is about as disrespectfull as it gets.
If Ronaldo really loved the club and had respect for it's fans he would do what most players do when they play against clubs close to their heart. They dampen their scoring celebrations out of respect regardless of the booes they get.

Ronaldo did the opposite, so how the feck can the fans at the stadium consider him a legend? Most people I've spoker to in Italy did consider Ronaldo an Inter legend before he went to Milan, some even after but after the derby all that changed.

Yuko, you can think whatever you want but how much prestige a player gives to a club because of his status in the football World, has nothing to do with being a club legend.

 

[bennyblanco]

nice post XL...at the end of the day if JZ didnt win anything with Inter i would always consider him a legend as his proffesionalism is above anything for our colours whether we are cellar dwellers or leading the comp...

like i said previously whoever shows the spirit and grit even when they are on the outer with a certain element be it the coach,Moratti or even his fellow players but knuckles down and continues giving it his all warrants respect and will get my blessing..

whoever doesnt believe in that shouldnt be at Inter,whoever feels threatened and starts talking crap shouldnt be @ Inter...whoever thinks that they are the missing link and above all including the "man" who is in charge shouldnt be at Inter...Ronaldo didnt cop the brunt of the 2002 fiasco as Cuper took the bullet and showed his grit by taking it on the chin..Ronaldo left when it was paramount for the further sucess of Inter and left us in the dark age for sometime because of his betrayel

 

[bennyblanco]

gee whiz..Ronaldo cant get a break these days unless you count his fked up leg ...Apparantley doping whilst at PSV...besides those ginormous choppers or tusks in steroid terminology and those massive elephanitities thighs i doubt it very much...

of course PSV deny it,but hey so did juBe and the balding army that played for them...so another tarnish in the fenomeno resume...did we really all support a roag steroid junkie?

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=587801

this part turned me over as i really repect Socrates(he is a dinosaur NOW who was a GREAT PLAYER once upon a time for Brasil) long before most people started following Inter(when mr sustanol arrived)

Ronaldo Was Abused - Socrates

Brazilian legend, Socrates, who is actually a fully qualified doctor in medicine, says that Ronaldo’s problems are as a result of the “abuse” he was subjected to earlier in his career.

"This was a pre-announced injury," the ex-Corinthians and Fiorentina star said.

"There is a difference between Ronaldo's muscle mass and the tendons on his knee. We have all seen Ronaldo grow too fast at the start of his career. That destroyed his knees forever.”

ofcourse he was abused just like Carl Huey Luis was and the rest of the Nike gang,bigger,faster,higher,educationally dumber...

anyway,just more wank material from goal.com

and PSV's response,who should make a ton of money for the slander if they have the balls and evidence to produce in court,

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=588353

wow goal.com

 

[VLE]

Samuel gave out an interview on how he still respects roma and he will never do a ceremony if he scores against them.

Batigol cries after scoring against Fio.

Mancini still vows his only derby rival is Empoli.

Miha reminds Roma 3 goals back in his Laio days when he was with us.

Nesta rejects Milan captain spot, still saying he will never be a captain except that of Lazio's.

Ronaldo laughs after scoring agsinst us and does a ceremony, bullshyts Mancini on Adriano case and how it would be better for Adri to come to milan. Inter legends? Surely our legend got to have more class than that of Roma, Fiorentina, Sampdoria, or Lazio's. Some of the players above are not even considered as a legend.

If he loved us and only we were so desperate to kick him out, we would have done so on the spot he got injured. No attacker with class leaves inter unless he wants to, as long as Moratti remains as the head of the inter.

 

[Stefan]

Great job by the Curva Nord boys. Translation for you guys they sang. The knee of ronaldo is no more and Jump with us,ronaldo jump with us.

A San Siro cori di insulto contro Ronaldo
16 02 2008
Cori contro Ronaldo durante Inter-Livorno. Li hanno intonati i tifosi nerazzurri della curva nord. Gli ultrà, che non hanno mai perdonato al brasiliano il passaggio al Milan, hanno ripetutamente cantato contro il Fenomeno che mercoledì s'è rotto il ginocchio.

Gli ex tifosi del brasiliano hanno ironicamente cantato a Ronaldo cori come 'Il ginocchio di Ronaldo non c'è piu'...' e 'Salta con noi, Ronaldo salta con noi...'.

 

[brehme1989]

Wow...It makes sense though, but I know people that have similar problems by nature

Ronaldo's mistakes were that he did not say goodbye to the players(he did make a phone call to 2-3 close friends he had at Inter)
Also, he used the media to tell what the problem was first. Such things better leak out in the media instead of being told directly through it.

I think what I said was pretty obvious. I don't have much time to respond to what you two said, but I'll do it soon.
All I will say is that Cuper is more guilty than Ronaldo. Ronaldo rejected Real twice, once before and once during the World Cup, but Cuper didn't trust him because of injuries and opted for Crespo, and negotiations for the Argentine were ongoing for at least 3 weeks, before Real approached Inter with their final bid. That says a lot, and it's as true as it can get.

 

[Stefan]

And if Ronaldo is not an Inter legend, then who in the recent era besides Zanetti is? Answer? Him and Vieri among a few others like Djorkaeff and Simeone. Vieri went to Milan->traitor. Ronaldo went to Real and then Milan->traitor. Simeone took away our championship chance in 2002->hardly ever mentioned... Can anyone explain why? I believe it's already explained, but if someone has a better answer then just tell me

The only one in the last 10 years which qualifies as a legend as Zanetti with Cordoba and Matrix close. Vieri and Ronaldo do not qualify because of how they treated us afterwards. Vieri was a legend for me till he decided to go and sue the club.