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Bro, i just read sentences like "Great, he knows the club, was primavera coach for so long". Yeah, less than a year :lol:

As i said, if he shows he can cope with the pressure and wins the dressing room, i won't object him to stay next year too, if given time, confidence, and money.

Who is better, AVB or Strama? We don't know. Both are young and talented, so we will see in the future. However, so far, Boas has shown more due to his Porto experience, and no one can say that Strama is better than him or whatever, when he hasn't been in charge for ONE game with the big boys.
 

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Indeed & agreed 100%
 

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Bro, i just read sentences like "Great, he knows the club, was primavera coach for so long". Yeah, less than a year :lol:

As i said, if he shows he can cope with the pressure and wins the dressing room, i won't object him to stay next year too, if given time, confidence, and money.

Who is better, AVB or Strama? We don't know. Both are young and talented, so we will see in the future. However, so far, Boas has shown more due to his Porto experience, and no one can say that Strama is better than him or whatever, when he hasn't been in charge for ONE game with the big boys.


Pajo for "The most sense-making forum member" :D
 

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Wow.. Moratti has some nerve attributing the entire season to Gasperini... using him as a scapegoat..


This is gonna be a long summer, Moratti has once again refused to accept fault take blame or even admit his mistakes.. And he has publicly told the team that even though you've been horrible this season, and played without heart, it's okay.. Gasperini is at fault. :palm: way too hold the players accountable Massimo. I bet in Saras' board meetings he blames the janitors and secretaries for the company doing so shit...

I lost a lot of respect for Moratti in that interview, I was honestly hoping that it was a joke for April fools day or something..
 

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Wow.. Moratti has some nerve attributing the entire season to Gasperini... using him as a scapegoat..


This is gonna be a long summer, Moratti has once again refused to accept fault take blame or even admit his mistakes.. And he has publicly told the team that even though you've been horrible this season, and played without heart, it's okay.. Gasperini is at fault. :palm: way too hold the players accountable Massimo. I bet in Saras' board meetings he blames the janitors and secretaries for the company doing so shit...

Well to be honest a President will never admit its not right he knows his mistake and he will fix it dont judge a person out from one season yes we have played badly but blaming for one season is wrong imo. As well i believe he will do something about it in summer
 

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This is Serie A. Managers have no voice in who to sell or buy, unlike EPL. There is no need to ask Gasperini's permission if the club want to sell anybody at that time. Plus, he wanted to sel Sneijder, who was one of the best player and the only real playmaker we had.
Take your pick: Sell Sneijder then, keep Eto'o now or sell Eto'o, keep this horrible injury prone bitch we have now and sell him for less than half of what he was worth last summer, this summer.
 

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Take your pick: Sell Sneijder then, keep Eto'o now or sell Eto'o, keep this horrible injury prone bitch we have now and sell him for less than half of what he was worth last summer, this summer.

I'd sell Eto'o and kept Sneijder. Getting replacement for Eto'o is by far easier than replacing Sneijder. Though Branca got the wrong replacement for Eto'o. I'd never picked Forlan to replace Eto'o. Plus, the last 2 managers didn't know how to deploy Sneijder on the pitch to get the full out of him.

P.S: there is no guarantee that if we kept Eto'o and sold Sneijder we wouldn't be where we are now.
 

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Atleast if we stuck with Gasp and his system selling Sneijder could have been justified, because 3-4-3 doesn't have a spot for Sneijder, unless he is willing to play as a winger or wide forward. I feel Sneijder is flexible enough to contribute in just about any formation, but obviously if its a question of getting $40m for a player (so that the 40m can in turn be spent on 3 or 4 other signings) then its for the good of the team.

Our team lacks a lot of things (pacy CB, pacy goalpoacher, defensive LB) but perhaps MOST glaring is our poor options on the flanks. We can barely play a regular 4-4-2 because our (central) midfielders don't join in the attack, and the players on the flanks are not wingers, and either lack pace (Stankovic, Chivu, Zanetti) or lack footballing intelligence (Obi, Zarate and Nagatomo). Maicon used to do this on his own, and we didn't need any help from the left flank, but those days are clearly behind us.

I have lost faith in Moratti's ability to lead this turnaround, it was predictable in how it happened and many of the most serious issues have yet to be addressed. First and foremost in correcting mistakes is ADMITTING mistakes!)

Take your pick: Sell Sneijder then, keep Eto'o now or sell Eto'o, keep this horrible injury prone bitch we have now and sell him for less than half of what he was worth last summer, this summer.
 

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In fairness we tried to sell sneijder in the summer, it was only has atrocious wage demands of 200000 pounds a week that scuppered a move to united
 

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I'd sell Eto'o and kept Sneijder. Getting replacement for Eto'o is by far easier than replacing Sneijder. Though Branca got the wrong replacement for Eto'o. I'd never picked Forlan to replace Eto'o. Plus, the last 2 managers didn't know how to deploy Sneijder on the pitch to get the full out of him.

P.S: there is no guarantee that if we kept Eto'o and sold Sneijder we wouldn't be where we are now.
Really? Name one player, who is valued at the same price we sold Eto'o for, that we can replace Eto'o with. Last season, Eto'o was the best complete striker in the world last season period, and he didn't even play in the middle but on the wings. You add 20 or even 30 to what we got for Eto'o and still we wouldn't be able to replace him (player for player).

Now on Sneijder... he's been injured a lot.. bitched a lot .. been injured a lot. It's funny how Motta was called injury prone when he played more games than Sneijder in the time he was here. I refuse to buy into this non-sense about the manager not using him properly.. Under Mourinho Sneidjer was primarily good at passing and set pieces. His passing this season leaves a lot to be desired and his set pieces have been horrible. This has nothing to do with the coach.

I'm not one to play ifs, buts or maybe, but I guarantee you that had we kept Eto'o and sold Sneijder we would definitely not be 8th, behind Catania in the table. We would almost certainly not be struggling to score goals and our attack wouldn't static, and predictable.
 

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Really? Name one player, who is valued at the same price we sold Eto'o for, that we can replace Eto'o with. Last season, Eto'o was the best complete striker in the world last season period, and he didn't even play in the middle but on the wings. You add 20 or even 30 to what we got for Eto'o and still we wouldn't be able to replace him (player for player).

I wouldn't name one here, simply bcs I certainly don't have time for your useless bitching for the name I give. But, everyone knows there are few players who can do as good as Eto'o if not better.

Now on Sneijder... he's been injured a lot.. bitched a lot .. been injured a lot. It's funny how Motta was called injury prone when he played more games than Sneijder in the time he was here. I refuse to buy into this non-sense about the manager not using him properly..

You refuse? Nothing much to discuss then but I'm sure you knew there was no place for Sneijder to get his full potential in 343 or 442.

Under Mourinho Sneidjer was primarily good at passing and set pieces. His passing this season leaves a lot to be desired and his set pieces have been horrible. This has nothing to do with the coach.


Just because Sneijder has scored few free kicks, it doesn't make him a good set-piece taker. I never regard him as a good freekick taker.

According to Wiki, (not sure how true it is) at his best season in 2009/2010, Sneijder 8 assists in 26 performances in Serie A or 15 in 41 overall. This awful season, Sneijder has done 5 assists in 13 performances in Serie A. He's been playing awful but his result hasn't changed much, u like it or not.

Now, how can his performances hasn't got influenced by the coach? FGS, do you even understand football? in 2009/2010, he played 4231 with a free role in the center of 3, the 2 players open the space for him to run around and bossed the field. He has 3 players to play with and 2 players backing him up for defense. this season, in 343 he was dropped deep in flat 4. He's got difficulty to pass the ball bcs he has to play more defensive than he used to. He got to win the ball himself, make the space and then pass? LOL. Even Messi can't do it. Then came Ranieri, he was played in some weird role and the constant formation changes don't help for any players to reach their full potential. Why Barcelona are so good in passing? Bcs their formation and tactic allow the passing to work best.


I'm not one to play ifs, buts or maybe, but I guarantee you that had we kept Eto'o and sold Sneijder we would definitely not be 8th, behind Catania in the table. We would almost certainly not be struggling to score goals and our attack wouldn't static, and predictable.

How do you know that? How could you guarantee that? Based on the performances last season only? LOL. I'm not saying selling Eto'o was the right thing to do, but to choose between Eto'o and Sneijder, I'd keep Sneijder. Players who play in Sneijder's position is quite rare while for Eto'o there are some out there. You really think 1 Samuel Eto'o can win us every games eventho we have headless Pazzo, useless Forlan, weirdo Zarate, oldies Deki, flopping Lucio, lazy Maicon, and friends, plus Ranieri? If you really think that 1 Samuel Eto'o could save our season by scoring all goals himself and defending all goals himself, there is no point replying me tbh. But, I'd suggest you to go and read 'Football Lesson 101', football is a team game.

P.S: this is off-topic.
P.P.S: Eto'o was sold. It was a mistake and a double mistake by replacing him with a wrong player, but pls move on.
 

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I wouldn't name one here, simply bcs I certainly don't have time for your useless bitching for the name I give. But, everyone knows there are few players who can do as good as Eto'o if not better.
You can't name one. Plain and simple. And there are no players that can do as well or better than Eto'o that would cost us 21 to 25 mln euros. FACT. Like I said before, you couldn't even name a player that would be as good even if you added 30 mln euros to Eto'o's original price.. The closest we had come was an exiled Tevez this January but now that Carlos is back int he squad his price has once again gone up.

Inter have been around for 104 seasons, and only 1 striker has scored more goals in a single season than Eto'o..

You refuse? Nothing much to discuss then but I'm sure you knew there was no place for Sneijder to get his full potential in 343 or 442.
A formation is the problem, if it puts a striker as a defender and vice versa and the player doesn't perform. Putting a world class AM and making him play as a free role player primarily on the left side of the field, but not as a winger, and the player fails to pass the ball properly, under hits set pieces, etc. etc.. is not the formation but the player.



Just because Sneijder has scored few free kicks, it doesn't make him a good set-piece taker. I never regard him as a good freekick taker.
In seasons prior, Sneijder's set pieces were dependable, fact..

According to Wiki, (not sure how true it is) at his best season in 2009/2010, Sneijder 8 assists in 26 performances in Serie A or 15 in 41 overall. This awful season, Sneijder has done 5 assists in 13 performances in Serie A. He's been playing awful but his result hasn't changed much, u like it or not.
:palm: Wikipedia as a source.... Who cares what his statistics are.. Wesley has been called out by several different people for his poor play this season. Ignore his assists.. numbers, especially those from Wikipedia, don't tell the full story at all.

Now, how can his performances hasn't got influenced by the coach? FGS, do you even understand football? in 2009/2010, he played 4231 with a free role in the center of 3, the 2 players open the space for him to run around and bossed the field. He has 3 players to play with and 2 players backing him up for defense. this season, in 343 he was dropped deep in flat 4. He's got difficulty to pass the ball bcs he has to play more defensive than he used to. He got to win the ball himself, make the space and then pass? LOL. Even Messi can't do it. Then came Ranieri, he was played in some weird role and the constant formation changes don't help for any players to reach their full potential. Why Barcelona are so good in passing? Bcs their formation and tactic allow the passing to work best.
First off, why do people believe that in our Treble winning season the 4-2-3-1 was our primary formation?.. it wasn't. And this season really? Gasperini managed like 5 games and used the 3-4-3 for 4 of. How the fuck is 4 games the entire season? There were games believe it or not that a 4-3-1-2 (our primary formation in the treble winning season) was used with Wesley as the 1, and he failed to perform.

Wesley's job was never to win the ball on the field, and he doesn't even try to do so, this season.


How do you know that? How could you guarantee that? Based on the performances last season only?
No there are several reasons why I know that Eto'o would have been better. Tactically, we had a coach who wanted to use a system where Eto'o was perfectly suited to and had little to no place for Sneijder.. If our management had any sense they wouldn't have hired Gasp. knowing full well what his system and philosophy was. Eto'o has managed to perform at a decent at worst level even when placed in a position that is completely foreign to him. Eto'o is more adjustable than Sneijder, who seems completely unable to perform when he is asked to deviate from the attacking midfielder spot.

LOL. I'm not saying selling Eto'o was the right thing to do, but to choose between Eto'o and Sneijder, I'd keep Sneijder. Players who play in Sneijder's position is quite rare while for Eto'o there are some out there.
Rare? Since when? We have like 4 of them in our squad right now - Bessa, Tassi, Coutinho, Alvarez - that people believe should get playing time.. We are rumored to a new attacking midfielder seemingly every week - Lucas, Gotze, Hazard, James Rodriguez, Ganso, Kaka - there are a hoist of AMs that we aren't linked to - van der Vaart, Christian Eriksen, Honda, Douglas Costa, David Silva.. not to mention those that we missed out on - Ozil, Lamela, Pastore, Nasri

You really think 1 Samuel Eto'o can win us every games eventho we have headless Pazzo, useless Forlan, weirdo Zarate, oldies Deki, flopping Lucio, lazy Maicon, and friends, plus Ranieri? If you really think that 1 Samuel Eto'o could save our season by scoring all goals himself and defending all goals himself, there is no point replying me tbh. But, I'd suggest you to go and read 'Football Lesson 101', football is a team game.
Perhaps, my stance was lost in translation so I will elaborate it for you even further. I guarantee that had Eto'o been kept this season instead of Sneijder we would be better, why? It's simple, we had a coach that ran a system that would have have favored Eto'o and not Sneijder. We fired that coach and hired a new coach who again ran a system that would have favored Eto'o and not Sneijder. Eto'o would not have been disadvantaged by the 3-4-3 pr 4-4-2 the way it is claimed that Sneijder has. Eto'o's history has even shown that he is capable of performing even when played out of his natural position. Add all that plus the fact that Eto'o is world class and came off a season that he scored 37 goals and showed no signs of slowing down.

Last season, Pazzo was here. There was Kharja. Deki was still old. Lucio made blunders. Maicon was declared finished... Not much has changed.. except for the fact that we've scored a significant amount of goals less than we have this season. Keeping Eto'o would have changed that. Eto'o's goals would have won us more games, Eto'o being on the field doesn't just means more goals, it also means more space for the other strikers as defenders would automatically inclined to focus on him primarily. It's no surprise that even though Pazzini has the same personnel supporting him from last season, he's scoring much less.


P.S: this is off-topic.
P.P.S: Eto'o was sold. It was a mistake and a double mistake by replacing him with a wrong player, but pls move on.
I see this as completely on topic as we are discussing Moratti trying to blame this disastrous season on Gasperini, and you sorta agreeing with him by justifying Moratti's actions.
 

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Who is better, AVB or Strama? We don't know. Both are young and talented, so we will see in the future. However, so far, Boas has shown more due to his Porto experience, and no one can say that Strama is better than him or whatever, when he hasn't been in charge for ONE game with the big boys.
while AVB also flopped at Chelski, fell out with the BIG BOYS aka STARS and lost the dressing room. Why would that be easier at INTER for him?! Besides, Moratti himself said that AVB is lightyears BEHIND Mourinho... He is a great hardworking tactician, but he doesn't have Mourinho's charisma and psychological advantage. So I don't think Moratti wants him (that bad), I believe he would rather go for Bielsa or stuff. Don't forget about Blanc, either :p

"Bielsa is very knowledgeable and funny person. At Inter, we need a crazy person like him. Villas Boas is light years away from Mourinho however he is young and could do very well. Montella is also good just like Zeman."
There.
 

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Why talking Eto's sale in this thread? Eto was staying, its clear Wesley was being pushed out but his negotiations and everything stalled due to various reasons then Anzhi came along and then our desperate management offloaded him instead. I don't know how damaging it would have been to our finances had Eto, Sneijder both stayed on. Nevertheless, we simply ended up ( due to WS's demands ) selling the wrong player as we simply had to offload one.
 

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Really? Name one player, who is valued at the same price we sold Eto'o for, that we can replace Eto'o with. Last season, Eto'o was the best complete striker in the world last season period, and he didn't even play in the middle but on the wings. You add 20 or even 30 to what we got for Eto'o and still we wouldn't be able to replace him (player for player).

Now on Sneijder... he's been injured a lot.. bitched a lot .. been injured a lot. It's funny how Motta was called injury prone when he played more games than Sneijder in the time he was here. I refuse to buy into this non-sense about the manager not using him properly.. Under Mourinho Sneidjer was primarily good at passing and set pieces. His passing this season leaves a lot to be desired and his set pieces have been horrible. This has nothing to do with the coach.

I'm not one to play ifs, buts or maybe, but I guarantee you that had we kept Eto'o and sold Sneijder we would definitely not be 8th, behind Catania in the table. We would almost certainly not be struggling to score goals and our attack wouldn't static, and predictable.
Although Eto'o was by far our best player last season, in hindsight it's harder to find a player like Sneijder than Eto'o. Playmakers are rarer than strikers nowadays and the fact that Sneijder's younger and has smaller wage bill don't help. Those players you mentioned are more attacking midfielders than true playmakers. And let's not compare Bessa, Alvarez to Sneijder.

Well of course it's all shits now.
 

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You can't name one. Plain and simple. And there are no players that can do as well or better than Eto'o that would cost us 21 to 25 mln euros. FACT. Like I said before, you couldn't even name a player that would be as good even if you added 30 mln euros to Eto'o's original price.. The closest we had come was an exiled Tevez this January but now that Carlos is back int he squad his price has once again gone up.

young kid, I didn't want to go on that discussion and that's why I didn't want to name it because you suck Eto'o dick too much and blinded by him and you are going to deny everything and make the discussion a pointless thing and first of all, i'm not a babysitter. Well, you mentioned one of the striker there: Tevez. There are still lots of strikers out there like Aguero and Higuain. Unfortunately, some other teams overpaid for players.

Inter have been around for 104 seasons, and only 1 striker has scored more goals in a single season than Eto'o..

So? It doesn't mean Eto'o will score 38 goals every single seasons.

A formation is the problem, if it puts a striker as a defender and vice versa and the player doesn't perform. Putting a world class AM and making him play as a free role player primarily on the left side of the field, but not as a winger, and the player fails to pass the ball properly, under hits set pieces, etc. etc.. is not the formation but the player.

What a stupid argument there tbh. I really don't think you know about football in details. Coach will tell players how he wants the player to play in THE TEAM. Yes, Sneijder has been poor but the whole team has been very poor. Even if you put Maradona at his prime in this Inter, he would be poor. Because the team has been poor in supporting each other due to its weird formation that forces everyone to accept their non-natural position. Sneijder can't make good passes if other players don't look for spaces. Sneijder can't make good passes if he delivers the ball and other players stay static. This Inter problem is not bcs of Sneijder. The fault weighs more to the previous coach for not getting full potentials of his players. If players can't pass, he should train the player to pass.


In seasons prior, Sneijder's set pieces were dependable, fact..


:palm: Wikipedia as a source.... Who cares what his statistics are.. Wesley has been called out by several different people for his poor play this season. Ignore his assists.. numbers, especially those from Wikipedia, don't tell the full story at all.

As I said, I didn't really want to discuss much because you don't look from other perspective. You think you are right and everybody else is wrong, no matter how wrong you are. That's why I just went for Wiki bcs I was lazy to search for the detail.

Let me ask you, what do u mean by set pieces were dependable? Sneijder scored like 5 free kick in the whole treble season. I'm sure he got at least 20 free kick that season.

You can't ignore the stats to talk about setpieces. set pieces mean nothing if it is not worth a goal. Give me the number of free kicks Sneijder has taken. Then give me the number that he scored directly from the kick. Then give me the number that someone scored from Sneijder's free kick. If they were above 50%, I'll admit I was wrong. If not, your fact about he's a dependable free kick taker is totally wrong.

Sneijder is never a great freekicker. He is a good passer esp a long or quick pass to the box but he needs players who constantly move and open up spaces for him. That's why he plays better when Eto'o was around him. Eto'o and Sneijder compliment each other. I didn't say he has a great season, he's been awful but most of it bcs of the tactic used. He is man-marked too much and he has no space to move and nowhere to pass the ball.

First off, why do people believe that in our Treble winning season the 4-2-3-1 was our primary formation?.. it wasn't. And this season really? Gasperini managed like 5 games and used the 3-4-3 for 4 of. How the fuck is 4 games the entire season? There were games believe it or not that a 4-3-1-2 (our primary formation in the treble winning season) was used with Wesley as the 1, and he failed to perform.


Why do people believe? LOL. It's not a belief. it's a fact that Eto'o and Pandev didn't play alongside Milito that season.

there was only 1 game with 4312 under Gasp but in the game he changed back to 343.

Wesley as the 1 in 4312 in Ranieri's games but he was isolated in the 1 bcs the 2 strikers in front of him are not mobile, don't create chances to get Sneijder to deliver. The 3 behind Sneijder never supported Sneijder by providing good cover and delivering balls for Sneijder to move around. Everytime we lose possession, we need to build our attack from the back again. Again, the fact is football is a team game. To perform you need at least 1 or 2 other players to perform as well. You can't play alone.


Wesley's job was never to win the ball on the field, and he doesn't even try to do so, this season.

You can try to find some old interviews by Gasperini. He mentioned it 2-3 times, he wanted Wes to play deeper bcs he didn't use playmaker.


No there are several reasons why I know that Eto'o would have been better. Tactically, we had a coach who wanted to use a system where Eto'o was perfectly suited to and had little to no place for Sneijder.. If our management had any sense they wouldn't have hired Gasp. knowing full well what his system and philosophy was. Eto'o has managed to perform at a decent at worst level even when placed in a position that is completely foreign to him. Eto'o is more adjustable than Sneijder, who seems completely unable to perform when he is asked to deviate from the attacking midfielder spot.

A coach comes to a club, he should adapt with the players he has. He can't just sack everyone and gets new players. The investment for that is too much. He has 2 world class players, Eto'o and Sneijder, why did he want to kick out one of them to make the team more suitable to his style rather than trying to get these 2 champions work together? That doesn't make sense and Gasp was stubborn.


Rare? Since when? We have like 4 of them in our squad right now - Bessa, Tassi, Coutinho, Alvarez - that people believe should get playing time.. We are rumored to a new attacking midfielder seemingly every week - Lucas, Gotze, Hazard, James Rodriguez, Ganso, Kaka - there are a hoist of AMs that we aren't linked to - van der Vaart, Christian Eriksen, Honda, Douglas Costa, David Silva.. not to mention those that we missed out on - Ozil, Lamela, Pastore, Nasri

LOL. How many times have you seen Bessa? He is nowhere near Sneijder seriously. Don't overhype Bessa too much. He has talents but he is not ready for first team. There must be a reason why Stram didn't call him among Primavera to join first team few days ago. Tassi? The 17 years old boy? You want a 17 years old boy to be our playmaker week in week out? Have you even ever watched him playing? How many matches have you seen him? I am being honest, I never see Tassi plays but I read somewhere he is a striker, not a playmaker. Coutinho? He definitely has talents but to replace Sneijder with him is a big gamble too. Alvarez? Aren't you one of those who hate Alvarez? Complaining he is too slow, limited left-footed player, etc Alvarez is not a playmaker.

I have never seen Lucas. He is damn good in FM but I don't know in reality. But, the fact Barcelona and Real Madrid haven't touched him, there must be something that he lacks of. Gotze is more a winger, not a true playmaker. Hazard, Silva, Honda, Pastore, Ozil, Nasri are not a true playmaker. I don't know Eriksen, Costa, Rodriguez. They might be AM but not necessarily playmaker.

Kaka is one true playmaker. I have ever said that if Sneijder was sold, Kaka would be a good replacement.

Lots of AM out there but very very few who can play the true #10 playmaker. I don't even remember who was the previous the true #10 before Wesley in Inter. Could possibly be Roberto Baggio.


Perhaps, my stance was lost in translation so I will elaborate it for you even further. I guarantee that had Eto'o been kept this season instead of Sneijder we would be better, why? It's simple, we had a coach that ran a system that would have have favored Eto'o and not Sneijder. We fired that coach and hired a new coach who again ran a system that would have favored Eto'o and not Sneijder. Eto'o would not have been disadvantaged by the 3-4-3 pr 4-4-2 the way it is claimed that Sneijder has. Eto'o's history has even shown that he is capable of performing even when played out of his natural position. Add all that plus the fact that Eto'o is world class and came off a season that he scored 37 goals and showed no signs of slowing down.

That's because those 2 coaches are stupid bcs they forced something they knew wouldn't work at all. You can say now that keeping Eto'o is a better decision bcs you have seen how Sneijder plays poorly and Eto'o left us after his best season with us. YOu know, the kind of Mourinho effect when someone left the club at his best. If we've gone back to few months ago, you can't say Eto'o can't slow down. Last season, despite his 37 goals, Eto'o has in fact showed some poor performances.

Last season, Pazzo was here. There was Kharja. Deki was still old. Lucio made blunders. Maicon was declared finished... Not much has changed.. except for the fact that we've scored a significant amount of goals less than we have this season. Keeping Eto'o would have changed that. Eto'o's goals would have won us more games, Eto'o being on the field doesn't just means more goals, it also means more space for the other strikers as defenders would automatically inclined to focus on him primarily. It's no surprise that even though Pazzini has the same personnel supporting him from last season, he's scoring much less.



I see this as completely on topic as we are discussing Moratti trying to blame this disastrous season on Gasperini, and you sorta agreeing with him by justifying Moratti's actions.

I can't buy Eto'o = goals argument. Eto'o is not Will Smith is not iRobot. Eto'o can get tired after 2 long seasons. The fact he has been glorious goals in Russia doesn't mean he would do the same in Italy in his 3rd season in a weaker team than he used to play with. But, if you kept believing that Eto'o = goals, you can keep your delusions but I don't buy it.


P.S: don't miss me if I don't reply anymore because I'm bored with the topic.
 

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Gone are the days when this forum was a actually a place of discussion, now you have this ^...

---------- Post added at 01:02 ---------- Previous post was at 00:45 ----------

Although Eto'o was by far our best player last season, in hindsight it's harder to find a player like Sneijder than Eto'o. Playmakers are rarer than strikers nowadays
The thing of it is.. Eto'o wasn't just a striker... the same way Ibrahimovic wasn't just a forward, or Maicon wasn't just a right back. Eto'o really was a special player to do what he did. And I honestly don't think we can find another player like him, just like we never found another Ibrahimovic but instead (for one season at least) we changed our system to re-adjust to his departure.

No matter how good a playmaker is, he is useless without having good strikers to finish those plays and this is where my point lies. We don't have the right personnel to suit Sneijder, and we are either too cheap or too dumb to invest in it.. So instead we got Forlan and Zarate.. Basically our team this season was not suited for Sneijder without Eto'o, BUT it was suited to cope with Eto'o without Sneijder.

and the fact that Sneijder's younger and has smaller wage bill don't help.
Looking at Zanetti, age might as well be a myth.. and Eto'o may have cost us a lot true, but us making the Champions League covered the difference in their wages no?

Those players you mentioned are more attacking midfielders than true playmakers.
Sneijder himself has become more of an attacking midfielder than playmaker since 09/10..

And let's not compare Bessa, Alvarez to Sneijder.
Never would I do such a thing. Sneidjer is world class, Alvarez is average and Bessa is untested.
 

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Alvarez? Aren't you one of those who hate Alvarez? Complaining he is too slow, limited left-footed player, etc Alvarez is not a playmaker.

I have never seen Lucas. He is damn good in FM but I don't know in reality. But, the fact Barcelona and Real Madrid haven't touched him, there must be something that he lacks of. Gotze is more a winger, not a true playmaker. Hazard, Silva, Honda, Pastore, Ozil, Nasri are not a true playmaker. I don't know Eriksen, Costa, Rodriguez. They might be AM but not necessarily playmaker.

Kaka is one true playmaker. I have ever said that if Sneijder was sold, Kaka would be a good replacement.

how is sneijder more of a playmaker then pastore? lol if pastore isnt a playmaker then what the f is a playmaker? i do agree with nasri, ozil, hazard etc.. but pastore? no way man.

alvarez on the other hand has everything that it takes to become a more or less decent playmaker. he certainly isnt made for the wing or to play wide. he needs to play behind the attack in a free role and distribute the game from there. If he develops his vision and passing ability he could become a rather good one.

i personally like strootman, he has the vision and passing ability and can defend to. it all depends tho on how the stramma wants to play next season. but that guy definitely has potential. he is linked with man utd tho


and eto'o? he is one of best of all time. no one comes even close to that guy. he carried inter last season all by himself...
 

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sorry, but wtf? Neymar hasnt officially 'been touched' by Barca or Real yet - doesnt mean theres something wrong with him. Same goes for Gotze, or any of a dozen fantastic young prospects...
 
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