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Matias Vecino
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Point takenBut was he any different to the shit we have seen form him since he came here??
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10 years of FIFNostradamusMost Passionate MemberIn the first half I was even going to comment that I sort of liked him but then he scored so I scrapped the post 
He was bad in the second half but so was most of the team. We were outplayed tactically and that's almost never a fault on the players, even if the goals we conceded qualify as defensive hiccups.
He was bad in the second half but so was most of the team. We were outplayed tactically and that's almost never a fault on the players, even if the goals we conceded qualify as defensive hiccups.
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10 years of FIFHe was shit before the injury, no doubt he's going to be shit after it.
I'll give him credit for the goal though, I thought he was going to balloon it over but it was a good finish to a great team goal, which sadly nobody will talk about after the shit that went down tonight.
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What a guy, always scores in big games.
I heard the commentators say that he never broke stride in his advance towards their box for the goal, went straight from our box to the other without skipping a beat.
If anything he has a weird sixth sense for when to be in the box to get a shot on goal
If anything he has a weird sixth sense for when to be in the box to get a shot on goal
He was crap even at the start of the game though. It was pretty much a typical Vecino game with horrible touches, somehow losing physical challenges to players half his size, but managing to come up with a goal against a big team.
In a way, he reminds me of Muntari when he was at Milan. Absolute crap majority of the time but ends up scoring lots in big games.
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no offense to the Uruguayan football, but there's something very rugged and old school feel to their playing style, certainly unlike any other South American nations. Maybe they have a long running lineage from their 1930 tradition?
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No he wasn't. What game did you watch?
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10 years of FIFWhat game were you watching?
He scored a goal and then went on vacation. Vecino is a ghost shit cunt.
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Forum Supporter10 years of FIFHe was not good, the guy is a good athlete from what i can tell and has a sense of going through on goal or getting in good aerial or counter attacking positions, but he lacks any kind of ability from what is required of a defensive midfielder, he cant pass, hold the ball , pressure or defend properly, and thats not a conclusion from one game. In this game every-time he had the ball he would pass it back to Dortmund or his touch would be too heavy and it would get intercepted.
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10 years of FIFI was satisfied with Vecino's first half performance. It was not great or anything but was doing okish (what more could we expect from him) but in the second half, he was terrible along with Biraghi (who was not able to cope in the first half either - Hakimi).
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What I must say is that Vecino seems poor at performing certain duties you'd normally expect within his role. That's partly not his fault, because all players have their own mould, and Vecino started his career as an AM after all. But players need be able to perform specific instructions that the coach gives them, even if the instructions are a bit unnatural.
A good example is Bernardeschi in the trequartista role he's playing now. It's not natural to him, nor is AM even his natural position, but he's doing as Sarri instructs and he's sticking to the opponents CM very well - see how he marked Brozovic and made it hard for him to do his playmaking duties.
By comparison, there seems to be no indication that Conte is either instructing him to mark any player, nor that Vecino has the sense or tactical discipline to do this if it were asked of him. This annoys me immensely. This is why despite racking up close to Brozovic numbers in distance covered, you never seem to see him anywhere in defense. For all his running and hustling, it's largely wasted on ill-disciplined and disorganised attacking.
Sometimes it pays off, see his great goal vs Dortmund. But he needs to be reigned in on a tight leash, or develop the brains himself to use that running more intelligently in defense. It annoys me that he doesn't seem instructed to defend better.
Based on his physical attributes, his speed, his great gas tank, his willingness to go in for challenges etc. physically speaking, there's no good reason why Vecino can't do what Barella does. Just look at how Barella hounds opponents constantly, like a Medel or Gattuso but with brains and skills. Vecino just... doesn't seem to want to..? If he could spend some of his energy making life hard for opponent midfielders instead of just jogging around all lanky and languid, he'd make himself 3x more useful. Prick.
What I must say is that Vecino seems poor at performing certain duties you'd normally expect within his role. That's partly not his fault, because all players have their own mould, and Vecino started his career as an AM after all. But players need be able to perform specific instructions that the coach gives them, even if the instructions are a bit unnatural.
A good example is Bernardeschi in the trequartista role he's playing now. It's not natural to him, nor is AM even his natural position, but he's doing as Sarri instructs and he's sticking to the opponents CM very well - see how he marked Brozovic and made it hard for him to do his playmaking duties.
By comparison, there seems to be no indication that Conte is either instructing him to mark any player, nor that Vecino has the sense or tactical discipline to do this if it were asked of him. This annoys me immensely. This is why despite racking up close to Brozovic numbers in distance covered, you never seem to see him anywhere in defense. For all his running and hustling, it's largely wasted on ill-disciplined and disorganised attacking.
Sometimes it pays off, see his great goal vs Dortmund. But he needs to be reigned in on a tight leash, or develop the brains himself to use that running more intelligently in defense. It annoys me that he doesn't seem instructed to defend better.
Based on his physical attributes, his speed, his great gas tank, his willingness to go in for challenges etc. physically speaking, there's no good reason why Vecino can't do what Barella does. Just look at how Barella hounds opponents constantly, like a Medel or Gattuso but with brains and skills. Vecino just... doesn't seem to want to..? If he could spend some of his energy making life hard for opponent midfielders instead of just jogging around all lanky and languid, he'd make himself 3x more useful. Prick.
Nice header man. That was actually the nicest header he's scored. Typically most of his headers are pretty stationary where the ball comes to him, but that was great movement.
Hopefully he didn't jump when they do the regular saluting the fans at the end thing - looked like he was about to pass out by the end of the game after that head knock.
Hopefully he didn't jump when they do the regular saluting the fans at the end thing - looked like he was about to pass out by the end of the game after that head knock.
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10 years of FIFHe is a donkey-Lampard. His specialty is similar to Lampard in the sense that he excels in moving from second line to opponents' box at the right time and then score. His physicality is better than Lampard hence why he is a donkey. But the rest of his football aspects especially his football IQ are infinitely inferior to Lampard hence why he is a donkey as well.