Mauro Icardi

Should we Sell Icardi in the summer of 2019/20


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I'm not a fan of insigne at all. Too lightweight and not fast enough to make up for it. He has good stats last year i know, but to me, a very, very wasteful player. Very inefficient and always trying stupid as flicks and backheels.

:lol: hilariously poor analysis.

"Not fast enough to make up for it" he's easily one of the paciest, most agile players in the league.

Every single stat you find shows he's easily one of the best players in the league. What's your definition of inefficient? His pass completion rate per 90 minutes is 80%, he has almost 2 key passes per 90 minutes, and all his dribbling stats support that he's one of the best in Serie A.

I would take 10 million + Insigne for Icardi under circumstances in which we needed a winger. Unfortunately, he doesn't fit our current needs.
 

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I'm not a fan of insigne at all. Too lightweight and not fast enough to make up for it. He has good stats last year i know, but to me, a very, very wasteful player. Very inefficient and always trying stupid as flicks and backheels.
I disagree about the part about his weight and speed. I thinks he's little faster then you give him credit,and also quick too.
His 1v1 game is also better then our wingers tbh. IMO he possesses traits that we definitely lack at this moment in our squad. For few reasons,i would welcome him as a part of Icardi's deal,if its gonna happen. Just my observation. Also,he's italian,and supposedly we're trying to add more italian players now with the new ownership.
 

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Bro. I ain't going to argue about Insigne. Stats are a funny thing but it's also good to think about stats in context. Looking at stats in 15/16 where his co-person scored serie A record is NOT context. It is more useful to see what he usually does. Regardless.

Speed
With the ball, his acceleration is average and top speed is below. You can hardly show me him beating players and leaving them for dead. Please do. He either beats them with some skill, but then they recover only a few seconds later (most annoying thing). Or he is cutting inside to create a little space to shoot or pass; but doesn't beat the defender. Almost all the times he "beats" a defender is through a one-two, hardly ever through skill + speed. And in the very few times he is beating somebody, it's on the counter where the defender had to commit; and even in those circumstances, the defender still recovers less than a couple seconds later, then you see insigne cutting back and making a back pass or an inside pass to a midfielder.

Inefficiency (shooting)
I don't have the stats, but I guarantee his shot-to-goal ratio is ridiculous for season 15/16. Probably as bad as a CM (10-11 to 1), whereas good forwards are probably around 5 to 1 or less. And I bet most of those shots come from outside the box. And I bet that if we analyze the shots, it's pretty much like i described above; he cuts inside, gets a little space and shoots a contested shot because he can't really beat people.

Inefficiency (passing)
Like I said, he is always attempting bullshit flicks, backheels, through passes, and long balls. ALWAYS. Again, I will check stats tomorrow, but I guarantee his long passing stats are horrendous. Probably 50% accurate with long passes since he is always trying bullshit. Don't let the short pass stats fool you either. Lots of back passes and passes to midfield in Sarri's system. And please, the "key pass" stat to me is bogus, subjective, and means very little (iniesta's key passes??), but even if you want to use that, I'm sure the ratio of key passes to total passes is ridiculous; probably 1 every 25-30 passes. Probably worst with long "key" passes.

Strength
There's no stat for this and this is just the eye test. Not sure how these stat people count dribbles and say what a dribble is, when it starts, when it ends e.t.c. But by the eye test, he is very weak physically. Easily bodied off the ball.


I get people get dazzled by his what, 10-12 goals and 10-12 assists, but I'm sure they were his highest ever (by a longshot) mostly because Higuain was putting away 1/4 chances, 1/2 chances, everything that came his way. I'm sure his normal goals are probably around 5/6 and assist probably the same.

So no. I personally would not want Insigne. Too weak, too slow, and too inefficient on offense. FYI, I'm not saying he is a shit player. He does have above average skill and he is an intelligent player.
 

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If you start digging what ANY player does wrong during a game,then there's no way there's any good players around.
I'm not a stat guy,and i only speak from pure eye observation. Im also NOT gonna youtube all Insigne's one v one situations and whatnot,for the sake to prove you or anyone else wrong.I'm not trying to argue or prove anyone wrong here,cuz at the end of the day,we all think differently.
I just speak my opinion,and obviously im not an expert on Insigne.
I personally,think he would be an upgrade to our current roster. That's all im saying. I'll leave the stat argument to y'all.:)
 

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Upgrade over who? I'll take perisic and candreva over him everyday of the week. And he can't play AM.

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And look. I apologize. One of my personal pet peeves is players who waste possessions (or players where the offensive move ends). It was one of the biggest reasons I despised of Pandev when he was here. And that's what I see when I see insigne. Lost ball/wasted possessions.
 

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I was gonna say,it seems like you have something personal about him that you dislike :) and it's cool,we all have those players that something bother us about them. And to me,Candreva is one of them,my personal opinion about him is that he's very inconsistent,gets hurt 30-40 % of the time...very frustrating if I was his coach. But again,just cuz Candreva is frustrating to me,doesn't mean he's bad player...:) I absolutely hated Candreva before,and I'm not big fan of him now. To me,when I would watch Lazio play,he couldn't do shit! But that fucker,somehow when he played against Inter,would have the best game of his life :)
 

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insigne is just not needed because we have perisic but if we didnt he is the perfect player to get and although insigne is a lmf I consider him way way better than candreva he's smart with the ball and has vision, its true he isn't really fast but he has quick feet hence his movement is actually quite fast making him easily able to beat his marker and he can pass, I am not sure if he is a good at crossing the ball like candreva for example but I know this guy is one of the best players in the league atm tbh I also like mertens but like I said we dn't need either one of them.
 

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Insigne is interesting as a false 9 but we definitely dont need him.

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Inter, Napoli battle on Icardi, Insigne
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Inter and Napoli are hard at work to keep Mauro Icardi and Lorenzo Insigne from each other.

The Partenopei have notoriously fixed their eyes on the Argentinian, offering up to €62m to the Nerazzurri and €6.8m per year to the player.

The club from Milan, however, is unwilling to consider a sale. Alongside the various meetings that took place between the 23-year-old's representatives and the directors, the Gazzetta dello Sport now reports of a summit held between the player himself and newly-signed Coach Frank De Boer.

The Dutchman explained to Icardi how central he is to his project and did his best to encourage him not to leave.

As this transfer saga develops, a parallel one for Insigne is just beginning. After the player's agent complained about the player's salary raise being unsatisfactory, there is a sense that the 25-year-old fantasista may leave.

President Aurelio De Laurentiis is willing to raise the player's wages from €1.8m yearly to €2.5m, but no more than that. Inter may step in and take advantage of that, particularly if their attempts to sign Gabigol from Santos don't go anywhere.

The Biscione are willing to offer €25m for Insigne. It will be interesting to see what kind of deal the two clubs work towards, as both have a mutual interest in each other's strikers, while at the same time both consider those strikers unsellable.
 

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Icardi gets CL football, a pay rise and a guaranteed movie/TV deal for his wife :lol:. I would be surprised if he doesn't push for a move to be honest. He'll probably use his wife to accept the offer and to deliver his conference speech live after he leaves, like the pussy-whipped bitch that he is. Let's see...
 

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Why would Inter want Insigne when we have Jovetic?

Nah, just take all cash for Icardi.
 

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Big bang of Icardi-Napoli rumours
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Rumours surrounding Napoli's attempts to snatch Mauro Icardi from Inter are exploding, as multiple sources report a variety of versions.

It's been known for weeks that the Partenopei look to the Nerazzurri's captain as the ideal replacement for departed star Gonzalo Higuain, but so far they have been turned down.

There have been no further openings by Inter, but the more time passes, the more distant the affair seems to be from closure.

As well as this morning's report by the Gazzetta dello Sport on the double duel between the two clubs for Icardi and Lorenzo Insigne, almost all media outlets in Italy are presenting a version of the story, sometimes with slight differences between them.

Tuttosport reports that a new meeting was held yesterday between intermediaries of the two clubs. Specifically Giuseppe Pompilio, the right-hand man of Napoli's sporting director Cristiano Giuntoli, and Ulisse Savini, who acts as the link between Napoli and Icardi's wife and agent Wanda Nara, came together just outside of Bologna.

In the summit, Napoli formalised their offer of €60m plus €2m in bonuses for the 23-year-old. This claim, however, stands in contradiction to what is being reported by Sky Sports Italia, according to whom the offer has not been officially made to Inter.

The report by Sky seems to indirectly imply that once the offer is officially presented and the recipients are able to evaluate it, Icardi's status as 'unsellable' could come in question.

Similarly, the Neapolitan periodical Il Mattino believes that an opening for a transfer could be in sight. Wanda Nara has apparently been insisting with the club that the striker wants to head for Napoli, and rather than being turned down, this time she was deferred, being told that the decision could only be made by the CEO of Suning.

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Agent: 'Inter didn't call Insigne'
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Lorenzo Insigne's agent says Inter and Napoli may be discussing a transfer, but the player was not directly contacted.

Agent Fabio Andreotti recently threatened that the 25-year-old may leave his club if he isn't offered an adequate raise, which has prompted the interest of numerous European clubs.

Inter look to be in pole to take away the striker, but agent Antonio Ottaiano (not to be confused with Andreotti) claimed there was no contact yet.

“I think it's normal that we should be shown interest by the likes of Inter,” said Ottaiano. “Lorenzo is a great player and there are many clubs that like him.

“But we have not been directly contacted by the Nerazzurri. Perhaps Inter and Napoli are talking about it as part of greater negotiations,” he said, as the two clubs are currently involved in a tug-of-war over Mauro Icardi.

“A player of Insigne's level will normally draw the attention of Inter's directors.”
 

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20 mill euros + Insigne and they can have him. Straight cash no fucking way, the money is good well above what his worth is but there are our direct fucking rival for our main objective.

This is bad business unless we can snatch a player of value from there and weaken them. ADL is smart mofo as he sees this as a move as something where he will cut his losses by getting in top 3 and fuck us sideways in the process.

Any other club from abroad I'd ship him for less then 40 million but this is not good and hope it does not happen. Napoli is in a bad spot and they simply can not attract any other alternative and hope it stays that way even if it means Icardi roots on the bench threw out the season.
 

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Is this 70 mil bid for real? If so take the money. We can reinforce a lot of holes with that cash.
 

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No, it's not. 60m€ + 2m€ is the latest rumor, but it hasn't been confirmed by any respectable source.

I believe our management will accept 70m€ if such an offer arrives.
 

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Please sell this clown ASAP!!
 

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He is staying... Unfortunately, the mgmt will give him what Wanho wants
 

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if he stays he scores-win

if he goes- we get paid alot of cash,maybe get insigne but most importantly get rid of a greedy scumbag who isnt fit to lace JZ boots and as a striker isnt fit to lace Militos boots!-win

win win!
 

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if he stays he scores-win

if he goes- we get paid alot of cash,maybe get insigne but most importantly get rid of a greedy scumbag who isnt fit to lace JZ boots and as a striker isnt fit to lace Militos boots!-win

win win!

Icardi is asking us for 5M as reported. thats not so greedy if napoli is indeed offer him 6.8M + 3M image right.

it is just wanda needs close her legs a bit for ADL's offer and behave.

In fact, it reports that Insigne want 5M salary too....
any quality replacement will cost us similarly on salary.
 
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