Mercato Team (Ausilio, Marotta, & Co.) and Strategies

[Wings]

Our best deeds in this mercato is

Expected you to finish this sentence with "buying Wallace" tbh

 

[Choppin Onions]

Bit irritated we couldn't get rid of the deadwood in Kuzmanovic, Chivu and Pereira like bluenine touched on. How hard can it be too sell these guys?

Not entirely surprised we didn't bring in anyone on the last day. Club is flat broke until Thorir arrives.

 

[I4E]

Tbh we needed a quality DM with a cultured range of passing (preferably something of a DLP as well) to replace the aging Cambiasso.
We will sadly have to endure his continued presence in the lineup for the near future, considering that we don't have a proper replacement in the squad (I don't rate Mudingayi enough for a starting berth tbh).

Why a DM ? what's adding another non-creative player to the squad gonna do when players like Kovacic or Taider would be cable of covering such a role ?

CDM is a role that Mazzarri has never played with and I'm quite confident that he will be developing this team without a designated DM.

There is, nonetheless, the option of playing a 3-4-2-1 type tactic with Guarin as a forward, and Taider and Kovacic as CM, but Guaro has been continually wasteful and inefficient in the attack, so I don't believe such a formation will be employed by Mazzarri.

3-4-2-1 solves what exactly ?

We needed wingbacks, and we simply can't rely on the likes of Jonathan and Wallace especially on the right flank. A two game run of form is not enough to convince me that he will be consistent in his excellence.

Jonathan has been brilliant in the 3 competitive games so far. He was also showing his abilities consistently in the final games of last season. Seems to be doing wonderful under the guidance of Mazzarri. Wallace is a very young lad that can provide cover in a season where we are competing in only 2 competetions. Plus J.Zanetti will be back soon. How many players do you want competing for that spot ? 4 ?

Nagatomo is the only real LWB we have atm, and he has been generally mediocre and inefficient in the last few games (apart from the goal). His off the ball movement has been quite decent, but we can't depend on him atm. Tbh, we should've sold Pereira, and purchased another LWB.

To suggest Nagatomo has been 'mediocre and inefficient in the last few games' is just absolutely ridiculous. It does sound good to want to improve the left side by dropping Pereira I agree, but tell me which available LWB was on the market without a hefty price tag to pry him away from his club ? Again, taking into consideration we are ONLY playing for the league and coppa italia.

So this has been a MASSIVE failure of a mercato. Yes, we signed some good, young players with potential which is encouraging (Icardi, Belfodil, Taider), but we could've and should've signed more (Dragovic, Quintero, Markovic etc.). And the areas which required immediate improvement were not fixed imo. We still lack a consistent, starting quality CDM, and our wingback situation has not changed since last season.

Dragovic, Quintero, Markovic etc you say ? These 3 players would have averted a 'MASSIVE failure of a mercato' ? who is etc ?

Please tell me why a 20yo Quintero 'should've' been signed. And does that correct your CDM problem ?

Where or better still when would a very very young Markovic play ? Just how many games do you think he would get behind Palacio, Icardi, Belfodil and a returning Milito ?

This mercato has NOT been the 'MASSIVE' failure that you have deemed it. It's actually been quite a sufficient one when considering the seasons objectives have us playing in only 2 competitions.

 

[Irequis]

GdS rating - 6.5
Players arrived - 9
Players departed - 14
Spent on signings - 49.7 million
Made from sales - 8.25 million
Total deficit - -41.45 million

It is about 32 million for this season's deal and the rest 18 million is for last season's deal.
So surprising we still cash out 32 freaking million when no big name is signed.
Campagnaro for free is the masterpiece :epicwin:
But seeing silvestre contributing 6 million out of 50 million is just :chan:


Btw, can you tell us the rating for old zebra, wc melon, red rabies wolf etc ?

Tbh we needed a quality DM with a cultured range of passing (preferably something of a DLP as well) to replace the aging Cambiasso.

We will sadly have to endure his continued presence in the lineup for the near future, considering that we don't have a proper replacement in the squad (I don't rate Mudingayi enough for a starting berth tbh).

There is, nonetheless, the option of playing a 3-4-2-1 type tactic with Guarin as a forward, and Taider and Kovacic as CM, but Guaro has been continually wasteful and inefficient in the attack, so I don't believe such a formation will be employed by Mazzarri.

We needed wingbacks, and we simply can't rely on the likes of Jonathan and Wallace especially on the right flank. A two game run of form is not enough to convince me that he will be consistent in his excellence.

Nagatomo is the only real LWB we have atm, and he has been generally mediocre and inefficient in the last few games (apart from the goal). His off the ball movement has been quite decent, but we can't depend on him atm. Tbh, we should've sold Pereira, and purchased another LWB.

So this has been a MASSIVE failure of a mercato. Yes, we signed some good, young players with potential which is encouraging (Icardi, Belfodil, Taider), but we could've and should've signed more (Dragovic, Quintero, Markovic etc.). And the areas which required immediate improvement were not fixed imo. We still lack a consistent, starting quality CDM, and our wingback situation has not changed since last season.

Only a single graphic can fully portray my reaction to this dreadful mercato:

We don't need another passer since we already have Kovacic and Kuz as the backup.
We need defensive midfielder like Cambiasso in the past.
Let's hope Mazzarri can put some sense into Cuchu head or Guarin is reverted back again as defensive midfielder (which is unlikely).

The wingback situation is trickier.
Jonachan has won the fans heart for his great performances so far so we just hope he can continue his current for all season long.
Nagatomo and Pereira are beast in statistic, but totally crap in the match hence a hard justification either to keep/sell them.
Again, let's hope Mazzarri doing his magic again like he does to zuniga and Jonachan.



I will not say this mercato is utter failure, but it isn't success either.
I quite agree with the rating from Gazetta i.e. 6.5

 

[Pajo]

Well, all reports say that Mazzarri got his midfielder in Taider, and all he needed was one more wing back.

He can live without that tbh, till January, when hopefully the Thohir shit will end.

 

[DARi0]

Tbh we needed a quality DM with a cultured range of passing (preferably something of a DLP as well) to replace the aging Cambiasso.

We will sadly have to endure his continued presence in the lineup for the near future, considering that we don't have a proper replacement in the squad (I don't rate Mudingayi enough for a starting berth tbh).

There is, nonetheless, the option of playing a 3-4-2-1 type tactic with Guarin as a forward, and Taider and Kovacic as CM, but Guaro has been continually wasteful and inefficient in the attack, so I don't believe such a formation will be employed by Mazzarri.

We needed wingbacks, and we simply can't rely on the likes of Jonathan and Wallace especially on the right flank. A two game run of form is not enough to convince me that he will be consistent in his excellence.

Nagatomo is the only real LWB we have atm, and he has been generally mediocre and inefficient in the last few games (apart from the goal). His off the ball movement has been quite decent, but we can't depend on him atm. Tbh, we should've sold Pereira, and purchased another LWB.

So this has been a MASSIVE failure of a mercato. Yes, we signed some good, young players with potential which is encouraging (Icardi, Belfodil, Taider), but we could've and should've signed more (Dragovic, Quintero, Markovic etc.). And the areas which required immediate improvement were not fixed imo. We still lack a consistent, starting quality CDM, and our wingback situation has not changed since last season.

Only a single graphic can fully portray my reaction to this dreadful mercato:

Harsh man, you have to think outside the box and realize this is not 2009 any more. I can't really support your pessimism and here's why:

Yes we have already identified that we need a starting DM with passing and shooting ability [Nainggolan/Fernando Reges] but we all saw the asking prices. Keep in mind that we still have Cambiasso and with a new trainer he has new ambitions: he will be a starter. So why waste 4m/year for a bench player? We are no longer in that luxurious position, otherwise Stankovic would have still been here! Everybody knows Cambiasso will never be sold. Instead we opted for a determined and talented player that made a point in Serie A while being very young, that can be gradually inserted into the team.

On the other hand, Mudingayi had limited chances to prove himself here so far, enduring those injuries. But once he's fit, I believe he will surprise many of you here - especially Duncan fanboys (that ridiculously wanted a 20 y.o. boy with no tactical experience to be wasted on bench when we have Mudingayi, who is having Serie A at breakfast on a daily basis for years now!!!!) :serious:

I can agree on your opinion regarding wing-backs, they are the most important in Mazzarri`s system. But you all saw juBentus being scumbags again by not letting Isla go because -not even them- could sign Zúñiga. Asking prices were also high, but that was still not enough to move one of them!! If you want to blame Branca for that, go ahead, but I don't rate this as his mistake.
TBH we shouldn't have boght Pereira in the first place, not mentioning that we overpayed again in favour of Porto but you really cannot blame Branca for being unable to SELL Pereira after all those shitty displays... get real, who will pay that kind of money for him?! Tottenham moved wisely on the market and signed very promising players, not rejects! Maybe Mazzzrri can make him "look good" and find a buyer for him in the winter, because this is the worst moment to sell him from an economical point of view.

I believe Dragovic was on his way to INTER only if we had sold one of Ranocchia or Guarin. Since our management decided to keep them in order to see what Mazzarri can bring out of them, we didn't go for him. 8m is not cheap for a defender that is not proven in Serie A! Quintero was not cheap at 10m, while we have already spent 50m and still have other priorities!

I really like how we went on with the co-owership deals, especially for the emerging players (Belfodil, Taider) - of course we were limited by our own budget, but this has the advantage that also forces the players to stay focused and develop, otherwise they could go back to their club or even worse! Let's remember not to forget how some brazilian folks have this shitty mentality of fucking up their career once they have signed for a big club/fat paycheck (Mancini for instance) or some simply flop at the biggest level (Silvestre)!

The point where Branca failed is selling players (especially if you look at Galliani getting 15m for Kevin-fuckin-Boateng!!). I would have certainly cashed in on Kuzmanovic - but he rejected both English clubs... probably they were not offering his current wage (can you blame Branca for that?). But at the same time, considering that we didn't sign any headline midfielder, he will be kept as a backup in the view to be sold next time. Germans have the money now, so hopefully they will come in with an offer during the winter (until then we have time to showcase him lol).

Some of our targets are in their last year of contract, meaning that we can sign them on a DISCOUNT in January. So far our policy was not in favour of FREE BOSMAN moves - because it harms the long-term relationship with other clubs (see Galliani-Ljajić-Fiorentina case- where they rejected the bid from milan but accepted the bid from AS Roma for the same amount), but maybe we will be forced to also consider and implement this in the future [Andreolli was blocked by Chievo, INTER wanted to pay for him during last winter but they held him up with a big asking fee, while we all know De Laurentiis how stubborn can be].

Having said this, I can see us compete for the likes of Fernando and Zúñiga/Isla this winter. I believe this was a SMART, CLEVER and INTELLIGENT mercato and I applaud the management - 7,5/10 given the current conditions and payments that HAD to be made for last year's mercato)

Also our SQUAD is not so poor as 9th place, but indeed other top clubs have seriously reinforced during this summer. Remember how we started off well until the injury crisis... we had an unexperienced coach and our game was quite random/freestyle. Our management have chosen to erase that season and give those players the chance to work with a true tactician that knows Serie A opponents by heart. I am sure we will see a positive change in our attitude and results. So I'll go with the management this time and I choose to be OPTIMISTIC. :datass:

Oh and one more thing: sure it was exciting to have a DRAMATIC last-day-of-mercato in the past years, but we all saw the outcome of that randomness!! So for me, this boring last day of mercato means a lot and actually pleases me - it means that for once we started planning before the window opened, moved for our targets in time and stick to our strategy (no Eto'o return at this point is another positive signal). No need for Zarate` type of panic buys, that's just wasting money. Better to have it settled from spring (think Icardi) - this work will bring us fruits, while the incoming players benefit of the pre-season training within their new team

 

[Aliano]

How much should we pay to fully own Taider,Belfodil and Icardi?

 

[Pajo]

How much should we pay to fully own Taider,Belfodil and Icardi?

Not sure, but i bet it's already arranged fixed price, just like Handanovic. We are just poor and decide to prolongate the payment

 

[Wallace]

Not sure, I think we might not have a fixed price on them, so it's subject to rise when they perform with us.

We might end up spending 50% or more of our next summer budget on purchasing players who are already playing for us...

 

[Pajo]

I doubt. Ppl were saying the same about handa, and we got his second half by sending Faraonis 50% to them only. It was pre-aragned, i think they did the same with these three.

 

[Wallace]

Well, we're just guessing here.

But it's definitely better to have it fixed than unfixed.

 

[homaru]

Why a DM ? what's adding another non-creative player to the squad gonna do when players like Kovacic or Taider would be cable of covering such a role ?

Jonathan has been brilliant in the 3 competitive games so far. He was also showing his abilities consistently in the final games of last season. Seems to be doing wonderful under the guidance of Mazzarri. Wallace is a very young lad that can provide cover in a season where we are competing in only 2 competetions. Plus J.Zanetti will be back soon. How many players do you want competing for that spot ? 4 ?

Dragovic, Quintero, Markovic etc you say ? These 3 players would have averted a 'MASSIVE failure of a mercato' ? who is etc ?

Please tell me why a 20yo Quintero 'should've' been signed. And does that correct your CDM problem ?

This mercato has NOT been the 'MASSIVE' failure that you have deemed it. It's actually been quite a sufficient one when considering the seasons objectives have us playing in only 2 competitions.

Kovacic and Taider are obviously not DMs:they aren't defensively-minded players who sit back. We need a solid DM to protect the 3 CBs, and we don't have one.

Jonachan is in great form, but what will happen when his performances start decreasing in quality? We need a high-level WB, one that can compete with those of rube, not a back-up who randomly started to play well. All players will, at some point, lose form, and Jonachan is no exception.

These players wouldn't exactly avert a 'massive failure', but they are quality youngsters who would prepare for the future. After finishing 9th, we must improve drastically to be fighting among the top again. With us playing in 2 comps, we have enough depth for the season, but not enough quality in DM, WB, and arguably CB. The mercato wasn't a massive failure, but was still very much below average.

 

[Inter7]

honestly I am not to disappointed with the strategy the team is younger and we are putting faith in a younger model of players.

 

[junior55]

Copy-Paste Dario , completely agree with his reasoning.

One thing he didn't mention and as i can see few of you do.
This summer should in no way be judged as a normal situation to act in mercato. Even in football manager when a club is in negations to be sold mercato transactions are blocked.

U CAN NOT add debts to a company that is going to be sold. We were unfortunate to have Thohir show up in this period but we can't honestly blame Moratti for this. He can't predict when a possible buyer will show up and we can't blame him for not finishing the deal fast since it's obviously a very important one. Therefore I didn't hope or expect any important deal to be done unless the negotiation had finished.

Now that said we can judge on what is done. Even in this case the judgement is done without having true facts as shown by italian press today where different medias reported different financial figures of our mercato.

I've defended Branca always and somehow i do it again but as everyone he has his pro and con factors. As i've stated many times the work of the sport director (Branca/Galliani/Marotta etc) is judged at the end of the season and therefore the judgement is not anymore on HIS work only but depends on how others parts of the club have worked.
The results of the team and therefore the work of the players and the manager gives the vote to the work of the Mercato team. This counts for the player , his cost and his resale value.

Let's take an example: Jonathan

U sign Jonathan 2 years ago for 5 M -> 1st thoughts given at the time -> who cares , is just a back up , we have Maicon , 5M is maybe too much
After 4 months he doesn't play at all , team is looking like shit - > we can't sell him , stuck with an idiot player , fail deal by branca-> we give him to parma on loan
1 year ago he comes back from his loan -> Team has hope after the good finish with strama , jonathan got some minutes with parma and gets revaluated -> Still bad deal
2nd phase of last season starts -> Strama goes from loss to loss -> tactical system fails completely -> jonathan becomes the scapegoat among others -> completely fail deal , branca is an idiot , he can't sell him
This season -> tactical system succeeds under the new manager -> jonathan becomes the idol of the fans -> The deal done 2 years ago doesn't seen bad anymore -> Today Branca can easily sell Jonathan if he wants
...... to be continued

As u can see Branca signed him once 2 years ago but since that moment the evaluation , performance and resale value of Jonathan has changed so many times because of facts that are not directly related to Branca and the 1st deal but nevertheless make that 1st teal better or worse.
And this counts for every player of our team bought in these transition times.

 

[Rosenvold]

Is it confirmed that we paid a total of 23 million Euros for HALF of Icardi and Belfodil? If so, then my opinion of our mercato has drastically soured.

Most reports so far have stated prices around 6-8 million for each, so it is very drastic and surprising to see these Gazzetta numbers.

Anyway, it is not enough to look at transfer payments. We certainly cut back on our wages - especially with Deki and Cassano leaving. How much will that amount to?

 

[ChillBro]

this was a transition mercato... ultimate chill bros. We took some good steps forward and other than selling a few players that we should have sold, no real steps back.

In our current situation, that is a success. i'll take it. with some cautious optimism. cautious.

 

[pencilpal]

Why a DM ? what's adding another non-creative player to the squad gonna do when players like Kovacic or Taider would be cable of covering such a role ?

CDM is a role that Mazzarri has never played with and I'm quite confident that he will be developing this team without a designated DM.

Taider isn't capable of covering such a role, he's more of a box to box midfielder, and it's clear Mazzarri wants to play Kovacic in a more advanced role on the pitch.

Additionally, I don't believe you read my comment correctly, because I wrote that this player should preferably have characteristics of a DLP (deep lying playmaker), so yes, it would add more creativity as well as defensive solidarity to the squad.

Didn't we concede a shitload of goals next season, so what does that imply? We need to add another layer of protection to our defence, in the midfield, through a player with destroyer/DLP characteristics.

Cambiasso SHOULD NOT be a starter, but it looks like he will be.

3-4-2-1 solves what exactly ?

Not having to play Cambiasso, but I explained that it would make Guarin a forward, which is yet another problem (considering his continuous inefficiency in the attack).

Jonathan has been brilliant in the 3 competitive games so far. He was also showing his abilities consistently in the final games of last season. Seems to be doing wonderful under the guidance of Mazzarri. Wallace is a very young lad that can provide cover in a season where we are competing in only 2 competetions. Plus J.Zanetti will be back soon. How many players do you want competing for that spot ? 4 ?

We didn't need Wallace, to declare otherwise without trolling imo is really idiotic. An incredibly raw 18 year old who didn't stand out in all the games I've watched him (in the Brasilerao) isn't the best player for a backup position. Tbh Jonathan would've sufficed there, but we lack a consistent starter.

You can't be sure that Jonathan will maintain this excellent run of form. Hopefully he does, of course, but the reality is that history has shown him to be incredibly inconsistent, especially with injuries. Imo eventually he will lose his great form, and nonetheless, he really hasn't shown anything wonderful from my point of view, considering that we haven't played against any top class opposition so far in the season.

To suggest Nagatomo has been 'mediocre and inefficient in the last few games' is just absolutely ridiculous. It does sound good to want to improve the left side by dropping Pereira I agree, but tell me which available LWB was on the market without a hefty price tag to pry him away from his club ? Again, taking into consideration we are ONLY playing for the league and coppa italia.

Was Nagatomo not mediocre and inefficient in the last few games? Especially in the last one against a terrible Catania side, where he repeatedly lost possession? That's called inefficiency, and aside from his good off the ball movement and the goal, I'd say he was generally mediocre that match.

If we keep (kept) Nagatomo as a starter (not a good idea imo), then we need (needed) a backup LWB (considering that Pereira should've been sold, given his economic value). Gabriel Silva of Udinese would be a great option for this role, being young, talented, and technically skilled. He's really shined this year with Udinese.

If we keep Nagatomo as a backup, however, I don't see many options, but they are certainly there. Luca Antonelli and Pablo Armero are names that come to mind.

But it's true that we don't have any top quality wingbacks at this club atm. This is where the likes of Mauricio Isla in particular come in.

Dragovic, Quintero, Markovic etc you say ? These 3 players would have averted a 'MASSIVE failure of a mercato' ? who is etc ?

Please tell me why a 20yo Quintero 'should've' been signed. And does that correct your CDM problem ?

Where or better still when would a very very young Markovic play ? Just how many games do you think he would get behind Palacio, Icardi, Belfodil and a returning Milito ?

You're saying that it's a good thing we didn't sign Quintero and Dragovic? How can you even say such a thing?

We need to take active steps toward a youth project. Yes, we made some youthful and intelligent transfers this mercato, but we could've made more, with much more quality.

And perhaps you didn't realize, but my point was that we could've made bigger steps towards the implementation of a true youth project in signing young players with recognized talent and potential, but we didn't.

It doesn't really matter what position tbh, if we get a talented young player there, it's obviously preferable. I never said those acquisitions would solve the CDM conundrum, because that point was meant to show that we COULD've done more, but we DIDN'T.

Also, Pedro Obiang, Geoffrey Kondogbia, and Allan, are three young players I personally had in mind to replace Cuchu in the starting XI.

Moreover, if we purchased Markovic, we could've loaned him out, correct?

But regardless, you failed to realize the underlying meaning behind that post, wherein we should've made much bigger steps toward a youth project, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S WITHIN OUR REASONABLE MEANS TO DO SO.

This mercato has NOT been the 'MASSIVE' failure that you have deemed it. It's actually been quite a sufficient one when considering the seasons objectives have us playing in only 2 competitions.

But what is imo a main objective to create some longevity at the club? A youth project, and this market was reflective of many failures with that in mind.

I mean, yes, the arrivals of Icardi, Belfodil, and Taider to the club were all good, but we needed to do more in the lowering of the average age at Inter. This is a squad I would've personally loved to see at the club next season:

Handanovic
Hugo Ranocchia Juan
Obiang
Isla - Kovacic - - Taider - Yuto
Quintero
Icardi
​

Substitutes: Carrizo, Dragovic, Samuel, Jonathan, Gabriel Silva, Cambiasso, Alvarez, Palacio, Belfodil

 

[Pajo]

Palacio as sub, while he is 10x the player Icardi and even Quintero is

 

[Sassuolu]

God we're already playing with 6 midfielders why would we need a DM? Mazzarri doesn't want a pure dm he wanted a physical midfielder who can move into space ala Nainggolan and he got his second option Taider.

 

[Kakaroto]

I agree with whoever said that if Mazzarri manages to get a CL spot he should get a statue. In fact I think FIF should send a commitie of distinguish members to give Mazzarri a BJ.