Mercato Team (Ausilio, Marotta, & Co.) and Strategies

[CafeCordoba]

It seems we are trying to cut the costs to minimum in this window by not investing to a striker long-term, only 6 month loan if a good possibility arrives.

Next summer we try to get players for every position most probably (apart from GK).

Defence:
- Marash Kumbula, 20-year-old starting CB in Hellas Verona. Haven't paid attention, but he's apparently the elegant one (De Vrij, Bastoni) while Rrahmani is his physical rugged partner (Skriniar). This could go quite well with Dimarco getting bought by Verona to bring the cash part down in the transaction

Wingbacks:
- anyone's guess, but we are in this market too to boost up the starting options

Midfield:
- Sandro Tonali, obvious one. The "next Pirlo" which is a bit unfair for Tonali, but he is going to be a great player nevertheless. Hard competition against Juventus. He's so young that his ultimate position is not even set yet even if everyone sees him in a Pirlo role as a regista.
- Gaetano Castrovili, box-to-box midfielder in Fiorentina. Talented player, Inter needs such skilled all-around midfielders though not sure if the price is right next summer

Attack:
- Dries Mertens, easy choice as he's a free agent. Direct replacement to Sanchez, and according to rumors we've already offered him 2x 4.5m€ (+ bonuses) contract
- Tahiht Chong, young player from Man United academy. Also a free transfer even though they are asking for big money between commission and salary. Not exactly sure to which role this guy would come as he's apparently more like a winger than anything else
- vice-Lukaku is missing, we desperately need one and are running big risks this season for not getting one, not even for the spring

 

[Jane The Virgin]

I think we're selling this summer couple of our big names.

And I'm fine with that, but what are we gonna buy? :/

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Defence:
- Marash Kumbula, 20-year-old starting CB in Hellas Verona. Haven't paid attention, but he's apparently the elegant one (De Vrij, Bastoni) while Rrahmani is his physical rugged partner (Skriniar). This could go quite well with Dimarco getting bought by Verona to bring the cash part down in the transaction

So far, Skriniar has been the clumsy one. Far from physical rugged player.

Don't get me wrong he has it all. But lacks experience to implement all his God given gifts.

Hopefully he gets there, to that next level. Because he will then be easily top3 in the world.

 

[brehme1989]

With Man City banned (pending appeal and all that) from Europe it could be an opportunity to get someone from there.

But then you remember that with Conte that's quite impossible.

I mean apart from De Bruyne, the only other players I'd touch from them are Bernardo Silva and Leroy Sane. Wouldn't mind Laporte or Gundogan though but they are far more expensive for what they will bring, which is not a game changing ability that the other three carry.

I guess people wanting Cancelo can be pleased at the increased opportunity to see him return. But I don't like him as a 3-5-2 wing back that much given what Conte wants from these guys.

 

[YoramG]

Definitely worth a peek towards City now that this has happened. Players will want out which will likely lower prices, so chucking a bid towards Mahrez might be worth a go.

They're a very winger-centric team though so not much there for us, unless 3-4-3 is on the cards next year.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Pretty certain City will appeal and the process will be in progress from that moment. I don't think City will be banned next season, maybe one after next.

 

[Caecuban]

Considering our current squad and that we will not be challenging for the Championes League in the next few years, I'd say all these players are/ will be top level and enough for us to challenge Juve:
Handa, De Vrij, Skriniar, Bastoni, Sensi, Barella, Brozo, Eriksen, Lautaro, Lukaku

So my point is: we should invest heavily in the wingbacks and try to get some young promising players who should be able to rotate our starters without dropping too much quality and be ready in two-three years. We can make some smart deals (Mertens would be perfect) but the big bucks should be invested towards the wingers.

 

[.h.]

realistically the city players will earn too much money for us to compete, unless we were able to get some decent FFP sponsorship in. what you might see is some of their top players moving to other clubs, and some rotation options freeing up from other cxlubs cheaper. I could see, for example but not actually, peolpe like isco, rakitic, vidal, shaqiri, etc, all being very cheap to encourage their sale if a few people live city.

 

[Universe]

They will probably win their appeal because CAS is a joke, and receive a lighter sentence. I don't think this is some cataclysmic end of the club and I suspect most of their players will stay. As for Guardiola, he looked on his way out anyway.

 

[brehme1989]

Considering our current squad and that we will not be challenging for the Championes League in the next few years, I'd say all these players are/ will be top level and enough for us to challenge Juve:
Handa, De Vrij, Skriniar, Bastoni, Sensi, Barella, Brozo, Eriksen, Lautaro, Lukaku

So my point is: we should invest heavily in the wingbacks and try to get some young promising players who should be able to rotate our starters without dropping too much quality and be ready in two-three years. We can make some smart deals (Mertens would be perfect) but the big bucks should be invested towards the wingers.

Juventus is challenging for the Champions League. If you want to challenge them then by default the aim is to have a team that can also challenge the Champions League.

 

[rockball]

To think about the coming mercato, we are in quite a decent shape. At this point, our primary requirements are
- quality wingbacks
- a top quality midfielder
- backup forwards

Surely we have enough money to fulfill these goals. Of course if someone leaves, like Lautaro, then we need more; but we also would get the money to replace them.

Getting a squad competitive of CL requires 2-3 years of building. Marotta and Co have started off well enough, and we should get there by 2021.

 

[Lui]

How does wage impact FFP exactly?

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[.h.]

How does wage impact FFP exactly?

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in what sense? calculations wise?

 

[Lui]

If/how it hampers us when looking to sign new players

Its relation to transfer fees.

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[.h.]

massively.

If you sign a player for 50m, on 5m a year before tax, for 5 years, the FFP impact is:
-10m per season transfer fee amortisation
-5m a year salary

so you're -15m a year for 5 years


the thing is, with transfer fees, that reduces on book over time - after year 1, the player's book value is 40m. year 2, 30m. the fees are recurrant costs - when we sell the player after 5 years for 70mil, we book a +70mil plusvalenza

 

[Lui]

Thank you browha, much appreciated.

 

[.h.]

hopefully it's clear why high churn on players (e.g. constantly signing and selling players) is bad from an FFP perspective. Stability and extending players means you free up amortisation cash for new signings - so signing younger players ultimately frees up money

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one of the other things inter did in recent years was sign older players on long term contracts. like, 3/4 year contracts for people near or in their 30s. This means that we spread the amoritsation further, so it decreases the impact on our FFP position, but it means we end up with players who are hard to sell because they've got another 3 year contract on a good salary. this means we end up having to subsidise them when they leave, basically.

 

[Lui]

Ok I think it's more clear to me now. Last question: Do performance bonuses and agent fees factor into these costs as well?

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[.h.]

yeah. I'm not 100% sure from a legality perspective, but I'd ASSUME they are just bonuses in the normal legal sense - e.g. in the UK at least it's taxed as regular income, so yes, bonuses are included as well.

What's more unclear to me are things like signing on fees - as that isnt a purchase price for the asset, in some ways. I wouldnt be surprised if that is a one-off cash flow in the season it happened, e.g. if we signed that Man Utd winger for 1.5m net per season + 3m commission, his FFP impact this year might be 6m, then subsequent years 3m (ignoring the tax relief law for foreigners)

 

[CafeCordoba]

Everything factors. FFP is about revenues and costs. Money in, money out. You can't make losses for too long or too much.

The important thing is when doing calculations is to get out of the thinking of net spending to transfer fees per window. Those annual costs (amortized cost per year what browha explained) need to be calculated and add salaries (gross) to them, then you get the player's annual cost to the club.

 

[.h.]

Everything factors. FFP is about revenues and costs. Money in, money out. You can't make losses for too long or too much.

The important thing is when doing calculations is to get out of the thinking of net spending to transfer fees per window. Those annual costs (amortized cost per year what browha explained) need to be calculated and add salaries (gross) to them, then you get the player's annual cost to the club.

*except stadia and youth