Napoli - Inter (13 Jun 20) (Coppa Italia) [1-1]

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The amount we are paying our coach to pay like total shit is alarming

Wouldn't matter if the results were coming.
What is alarming is that they aren't coming.
 

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It was very disappointing, Coppa Italia was by far our most realistic opportunity of lifting a trophy this year. It was just about winning two matches.

I hope lautaro has a very good excuse for being that bad. Not that all the others were great...
 

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Conte couldn't out coach Gattuso. Dear me.

Conte's love child Candreva makes the easy things look hard.

LM10's desire to eat bench at Barca is growing. Conte's 'dream killing' set up is detrimental.

Conte said 'we deserved to go to the final, we were better over both legs, we created more chances in this game, we were dominant...' dafaq is wrong with this guy ?!

It's ok, Tonali is coming. He's the missing piece of the puzzle that'll help turn Candreva into Ronaldo and LM10 into Messi.

I have mentioned it before. Wingbacks are essential to make 3-5-2 work. People can ask for as many midfielders as they want. Till we get quality players on the wings, this system isn't going to work.
 

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Conte said 'we deserved to go to the final, we were better over both legs, we created more chances in this game, we were dominant...' dafaq is wrong with this guy ?!

he was right, so what is the problem?
 

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Positive news is that we have not lost a game since the 8th of March.
 

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this is simply not true.. lautaro is doing nothing starting from the first match in 2020. If the passing with Lukaku is not working it's more because of him, not because of the system and Eriksen. You can see it when Sanchez got in. Lukaku was more focused to stay in front of the goal while Sanchez created the space, it was a really diffrent set up. Lautaro was the whole game invisibile which made things hard for he's team mates.
It's only 9 games before this one and he scored 3 important goals in 3 matches.Man can have poor run of form.Somehow,he is now our new scapegoat after Icardi.I guess Skriniar is next.Give him a break.
 

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I would like to say that our problem is only the coach but it's not. The only thing Conte could do (or could have done) is playing a formation without wingers (because our wingers are shit) and benching Lautaro. But this team was anyway build up to play 3-5-2 or 3-4-1-2. Next time the management spends more money for wingers instead of Midfielders.
 

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I would like to say that our problem is only the coach but it's not. The only thing Conte could do (or could have done) is playing a formation without wingers (because our wingers are shit) and benching Lautaro. But this team was anyway build up to play 3-5-2 or 3-4-1-2. Next time the management spends more money for wingers instead of Midfielders.

Yeah, Napoli just packed the middle, forcing us to go out wide to biraghi and moses. We need top quality wing backs. That has to be the priority. No more gamble shit like lazaro, we need quality. If we don't get it in the summer, the management has failed the club.
 

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I would like to say that our problem is only the coach but it's not. The only thing Conte could do (or could have done) is playing a formation without wingers (because our wingers are shit) and benching Lautaro. But this team was anyway build up to play 3-5-2 or 3-4-1-2. Next time the management spends more money for wingers instead of Midfielders.

You're clearly blurring the picture you're painting here.

The coach opts for the system. The team is not built for 3-5-2 actually, but he has made it so.

Skriniar is not made for a 3-5-2 defense and he was our most important center back.
Godin is not made for a 3-5-2 defense and he is our highest earner.

The only three players who can cope in a 3-5-2, with De Vrij being in the middle as he's a 10/10 player there, is Bastoni on the left and D'Ambrosio on the right. Those two are not the 2nd and 3rd best defenders we have, so the coach has automatically ensured that we play Skriniar in an unfamiliar role, Godin is ostracized because he can only barely play on the right side whilst Skriniar is killed on the left which he was deployed initially. Candreva and Asamoah are okay-ish wingbacks, but that's about it. We have exterminated all wingers (Perisic, Politano, Candreva became a wing back, Keita wasn't chased after, Lazaro was also turned to a wing back) and only brought in Sanchez who has always been more of a support striker. That means that our coach has effectively elimiated the system we had adopted over the past 4 seasons that included wingers and 3 central midfielders or 2+1.
The main difference is that we have switched to a 2 man attack after years, but at the same time we have not really added depth there.

It is ironic that Lazaro and Politano are two of our most expensive transfers this summer (25m and 20m respectively paid) yet we have reduced one to a wing back and the other to a random positionless forward. And both of them were gone by January.
We have added a lot of central midfielders and still seek for more. And all of these guys are at their prime while Conte is not really that famous for his rotation. People will get alienated here.

The team at the moment has the roster to field a 4-3-1-2, a 3-5-2, a 3-6-1, a 4-2-3-1, a 4-3-3 and a box 4-4-2. Our coach is opting for the 3-5-2. The core problem of Inter is not spending, but spending to the desire's of a coach that wanted to build a team from scratch despite not having the personnel fit for this. The best fit is the 4-3-1-2. Just like last season Spalletti refused to see that the best fit was a flat 4-4-2.
 

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he was right, so what is the problem?

The problem is, Napoli scored more goals than us, Napoli beat us and they're in the cup final. We achieved none of the aforementioned.
 

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after some time to digest this exit--

Positives: midfield looked pretty dominant, defense was organized
Negatives: front two not linking

A lack of sharpness was to expected from everyone last night and we actually did a bit better than I thought we would in that respect. The only times we were really in trouble were due to mental/ tactical lapses. I'm not sure why Erikesen was tracking Insigne after having just taken a corner; it doesn't make much sense. Lautaro's performance was lethargic and the big missing puzzle piece for most of the match. Not that Lukaku was great, but he was working for the team.

I would start Sanchez and Lukaku against Samp. Let Lautaro understand his minutes aren't guaranteed.
 

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Frickin shit ruined my whole week
 

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Yeah, Napoli just packed the middle, forcing us to go out wide to biraghi and moses. We need top quality wing backs. That has to be the priority. No more gamble shit like lazaro, we need quality. If we don't get it in the summer, the management has failed the club.

So what kind of signings are we looking for? Its hard to find good realistic quality wingers who fit Conte's playing style; perhaps Kimmich or Florenzi but he already stated he wouldn't come to us out of loyalty to roma? Who do you suggest we get to fit his style? I just feel like blaming the management for not being able to get quality winger is the easy way out or should we blame conte for insisting to play with such rigid formation/tactic? I guess we can blame the management for bringing him knowing that he only playes with 3 back formation.
 

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We can probably write this match off to the long hiatus, shame it was such a high stakes match, but such is life.
Conte should be wise to work on plan B for these situations, once a team bunkers up you need to start shooting from distance to break them up a little bit, Spallettiball crosses won't do it. And what pissed me off the most was the lack of urgency among the players.

Sanchez must start next time.
 

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Conte couldn't out coach Gattuso. Dear me.

Conte's love child Candreva makes the easy things look hard.

LM10's desire to eat bench at Barca is growing. Conte's 'dream killing' set up is detrimental.

Conte said 'we deserved to go to the final, we were better over both legs, we created more chances in this game, we were dominant...' dafaq is wrong with this guy ?!

It's ok, Tonali is coming. He's the missing piece of the puzzle that'll help turn Candreva into Ronaldo and LM10 into Messi.

I didn't see the first leg but Inter absolutely outplayed Napoli in the 2nd leg. Unlucky with the boatload of chances they had and if there's anyone to blame perhaps Young for leaving Mertens unmarked on Napoli's goal - he was never going to catch Insigne & surely had to anticipate a possible square ball.

They were unusual tactics I thought from Conte since so much space was gifted in the center of the pitch to move the play out wide but nothing ever too threatening arrived for Lukaku or Lautaro IMHO - leaving them fairly uninvolved. A tough loss, especially when you have been the better looking side but this happens in football

Callejon, btw - crazy

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Too much overreacting in this thread. Conte set up the team correctly we dominated every part of the game the difference was when the chances came we couldn't capitalize or ospina played out of his mind. This happens in football the team that deserves it doesn't always win it. We have shithoused our way to a few wins in the last decade
 

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Too much overreacting in this thread. Conte set up the team correctly we dominated every part of the game the difference was when the chances came we couldn't capitalize or ospina played out of his mind. This happens in football the team that deserves it doesn't always win it. We have shithoused our way to a few wins in the last decade

More importantly - or worrying - I see it as we've failed every time we've been up against it in the big, important matches and the pressure's been on. Two of the most lethargic and cowardly displays against Juventus I've ever seen an Inter side produce, Lazio away certainly, not to mention being up 2-0 in Dortmund, losing against a Barca side with nothing to play for and now two times in the Coppa against Napoli. If it happens this often, it's not just down to players not taking their chances.
The above are basically the season defining matches, and we've come up short mostly every time, and now the season, barring a win in Europa League (which, looking at Conte's European pedigree definitely won't happen) will be a disappointment, if not an outright fiasco.
Consider the league was there for the taking; a vulnerable Juventus, Milan being Milan, Roma undergoing a generation shift with a power struggle on a managerial level, Napoli being the worst they've been in a decade - only Atalanta and Lazio from the top teams have been better than they were last season, and considering, say, our record-high transfer window compared to their wage bill, and you can't help but feel we should be second, let alone closer to Juventus.
Only a fool would believe that so many top teams will be as bad next season, with maybe even Fiorentina gunning for top spots as well.

We're paying the coach the fourth most expensive wage in the world, and it seems like people are fine with marginal improvements. I'm not buying it.
 
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It is easy to say marginal improvement when there are actually many other factors play into it being ignored.
 

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Conte deserved to receive criticism for his lack of pragmatism and failing to field the best starting 11 prior to the break.

But Conte did not deserve to be criticized for the Napoli game. The team was more in shape and took the game to Napoli but we’re unlucky.

Also all of Conte substitutions were able to make an impact.

At the moment criticism towards Conte is Unfounded.
 

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More importantly - or worrying - I see it as we've failed every time we've been up against it in the big, important matches and the pressure's been on. Two of the most lethargic and cowardly displays against Juventus I've ever seen an Inter side produce, Lazio away certainly, not to mention being up 2-0 in Dortmund, losing against a Barca side with nothing to play for and now two times in the Coppa against Napoli. If it happens this often, it's not just down to players not taking their chances.
The above are basically the season defining matches, and we've come up short mostly every time, and now the season, barring a win in Europa League (which, looking at Conte's European pedigree definitely won't happen) will be a disappointment, if not an outright fiasco.
Consider the league was there for the taking; a vulnerable Juventus, Milan being Milan, Roma undergoing a generation shift with a power struggle on a managerial level, Napoli being the worst they've been in a decade - only Atalanta and Lazio from the top teams have been better than they were last season, and considering, say, our record-high transfer window compared to their wage bill, and you can't help but feel we should be second, let alone closer to Juventus.
Only a fool would believe that so many top teams will be as bad next season, with maybe even Fiorentina gunning for top spots as well.

We're paying the coach the fourth most expensive wage in the world, and it seems like people are fine with marginal improvements. I'm not buying it.

Everything needs to be seen in context
We are 6 points off 1st place if we best samp

We lost in the semifinals of the coppa

Got eliminated in a tough group of the CL
(Only part I can say we have under achieved a lot )
 
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