Nicolò Barella

[forzainter257]

Forum going apeshit on Barella like always

meanwhile our top payed striker has yet to score a single goal in CL but he is world class

Don't worry, he is receiving his portion of shit in his thread after each match. Even when he scores, there are posters who still nitpick on some ridiculous things.

 

[.h.]

I dont think anyone is giving Lautaro an easy time in his thread either...

 

[Materazzi_23]

LOL are we seriously discussing wether Barella is captain material or not based on this one fucken game?
Dude is in his 3rd season with us and played like a captain should in 99% of these games one fuckup and he s not captain material?

Speaking only for myself: No. I find him to immature in his reactions to be a captain right now. Yesterday just showed what I was thinking. That doesn't mean I don't think he is world class and one of the best midfielders for the coming years but Barella has that grinta that quickly can change into madness. That's why I don't think he is ready to be captain. (and the fact that Skriniar should be the next captain ofcourse).

On the other hand maybe giving him the captaincy will speed up the maturing process but I still think Skriniar is the right person before Barella.

 

[Stefan]

Ok let me put it straight. I don't want Barella to be our captain, I rather prefer Skriniar although he is not perfect for that role either.
My point was, if this fucking club wanted to give the armband to Barella, they should have not made him apologize because that would deteriorate his authority over other players. Do you see the point? you don't hold a person you regard as a future captain accountable in public.

How did they hold him accountable in public? Did moratta and inzaghi force him to go in front of the press and apologize as fachetti did with materrazi...

If anything inzaghi protected him.

 

[Adriano@10]

Honestly, the problem with Barella is his petulance. This is hardly the first time - how many times have we joked about the guaranteed first half booking for him, for example?

Composure is a very important part of being a captain and a leader in general - you need to be the calm head when things go to shit, thats probably the single most important quality of any leader. It's NOT about being the best player, the nicest one guy in the locker room, or anything like that. It's about whipping people into shape. That doesnt mean Keane (for example) was a bad captain - he was a very motivated guy and knew the right culture and attitude to instill.

Composure and temperment are critical and Barella is poor at both, last night was just a shockingly bad example of that in particular.

Meh has his temperament/emotions ever hurt us? Last night was probably the first time it affected us negatively..
On the other hand how many times have we admired his will to just go and get it?
There is not one prototype of great Captain thats just a myth that we fans like to tell our selfes and very often it s more about the group and the leaders within that group rather than one guy who wears an armband.
Also remember what was the great criticism about zanetti that he was not yelling at guys enough and so on.

Your right that composure and temperament are important when/if your the captain but Barella has not shown anything that should disqualify him from the discussion. Again last night was the first time his temperament actually hurt us as a club.

We ve seen so many diffrent types of players make a great captain From zanetti to Ramos to Gerrard to Lampard to pirlo and many more.

It s not like they have too much in common temperament wise.

Basically all i m saying is dismissing arella from the captains discussion cause of yesterday is fucken stupid.
NOt that i disagree that he needs to get a grip on it

 

[.h.]

Meh has his temperament/emotions ever hurt us? Last night was probably the first time it affected us negatively..
On the other hand how many times have we admired his will to just go and get it?
There is not one prototype of great Captain thats just a myth that we fans like to tell our selfes and very often it s more about the group and the leaders within that group rather than one guy who wears an armband.
Also remember what was the great criticism about zanetti that he was not yelling at guys enough and so on.

Your right that composure and temperament are important when/if your the captain but Barella has not shown anything that should disqualify him from the discussion. Again last night was the first time his temperament actually hurt us as a club.

We ve seen so many diffrent types of players make a great captain From zanetti to Ramos to Gerrard to Lampard to pirlo and many more.

It s not like they have too much in common temperament wise.

Basically all i m saying is dismissing arella from the captains discussion cause of yesterday is fucken stupid.
NOt that i disagree that he needs to get a grip on it

I mean often,y es. He's often carded in the first half of a game (less so this season but still not entirely fixed), which massively impacts his ability to play in the second half and the risks he can take

 

[forzainter257]

How did they hold him accountable in public? Did moratta and inzaghi force him to go in front of the press and apologize as fachetti did with materrazi...

If anything inzaghi protected him.

I read it on the news where they posted Inzaghi's interview where he says Barella apologized to everyone. Not sure if he was forced though. I commented thinking he was.

 

[rfU]

IMO this is a positive thing:

1) the club has an opportunity to reassess its choice of Barella as team captain
2) Barella takes a long, hard look at himself, improves as a player
3) management has to secure a ready-made, like-for-like replacement in the winter mercato

All in all was a meaningless game, didn't really look like we could've secured the win, so was an opportunity for us all to learn and improve.

It wasnt 'that' dangerous, it was a shoulder barge, albeit into advertising boards. It happens fairly regularly.

Happened to my neice and she went head first into a wall, concussion and so on. Militao needed to be stone cold stunned for that.

 

[.h.]

he wasnt goign head first into the boards, though, and they're not as tough as a wall. players go into the boards all the time in football.



You're missing the fact that now one of our key midfielders is going to be missing for the CL knockouts, probably both legs. If this was the 5th game and it was a double booking, i'd be less fussed, but now we're missing him for ... whatever, Bayern H & A.

 

[forzainter257]

That sucks but who knows, Vidal might step up or maybe Simone comes up with some different tactics that would allow the likes of Gaglia, Vecino fit in

 

[PHM1605]

That sucks but who knows, Vidal might step up or maybe Simone comes up with some different tactics that would allow the likes of Gaglia, Vecino fit in

The tactics that fit Gags and Vecino in is putting them in the kitchen preparing pizzas, or decorating the Christmas trees maybe. It works every time.

 

[Black Knight]

But for me we lost not only because of his red card, but also because some of our players failed to score in the first half when the score was still even.

I'm quite sure nobody is disagreeing with this. However, whatever chance we had to get back in the game (which I didn't get the feeling was going to happen anyway), disappeared with his red.

 

[rfU]

he wasnt goign head first into the boards, though, and they're not as tough as a wall.

if it's hard enough to withstand a bullet of a shot then it's hard enough to do damage especially going at that momentum. Something needs to be done, refs need to act accordingly.

You're missing the fact that now one of our key midfielders is going to be missing for the CL knockouts, probably both legs.

I get that. Hence why i said management will be forced into onboarding a high quality replacement in the winter mercato. Ideally.

 

[.h.]

if it's hard enough to withstand a bullet of a shot then it's hard enough to do damage especially going at that momentum. Something needs to be done, refs need to act accordingly.


I get that. Hence why i said management will be forced into onboarding a high quality replacement in the winter mercato. Ideally.

thats not gonna happen, though. I'll be utterly shocked if we spend 40-60mil on a new midfielder in Jan. All that will happen is that Gags/Sensi/Vidal will play.

 

[Harpsabu]

Yep. I struggle to see the management going and buying a barella worthy replacement just for 2 games.

 

[Adriano@10]

I mean often,y es. He's often carded in the first half of a game (less so this season but still not entirely fixed), which massively impacts his ability to play in the second half and the risks he can take

Thats your opinion and nothing more. How often have you noticed his intensity dropp cause he was on a yellow? It s also not like the coach takes him out at the 70th min all the time cause we fear a double yellow. I might be watching different games but i dont recall thinking damn if only barella had not gotten that yellow in the first he d be playing better now or with more intensity.
Also he s gotten 5 yellows last year in 36 games thats not a crayze number.. I know he s almost there thisi year with 4...

Again yes he has to work on his temper but to take one such inccident and dismiss him from the captains discussion is dumb.

BTW his should not minimize the fact that it s a big deal that we re gonna miss him in the next round of CL....

 

[.h.]

Very few people wanted him as captain in the first place. It's not like we've flipped our perspective because of one game.

 

[Adriano@10]

Very few people wanted him as captain in the first place. It's not like we've flipped our perspective because of one game.

Pretty sure i read the future captain on this forums more then once not like i would get that idea from any where else. I mean it s him or skriniar who according to this forum should become the next captain.

Btw i m not favouring him, as i really dont care to much and i think football fans put to much importance on who is wearing the armband. More important is who are the leaders in the team. WHen zanetti was captain the likes of cuchu, matrix, cordoba samuel were just as important leaders as zanetti was Imho its just that they all had a different role.

All i m saying is i ve seen nothing of barella that should disqualify him from being captain.

Honestly i m more concerned with his bad performances for the last couple of games than his red card yesterday.

 

[.h.]

There were some people favouring him because he's italian and an inter fan, which isnt a bad reason, but hes not the most obvious leader on our team, and I think someone who demands captaincy is the last person I would ever give it to.

 

[Adriano@10]

There were some people favouring him because he's italian and an inter fan, which isnt a bad reason, but hes not the most obvious leader on our team, and I think someone who demands captaincy is the last person I would ever give it to.

Fair enough again he would not be my first pick either, but i also would not have a problem with him being captain. Also did he demand the captaincy?

Also for the record Barella is not an inter fan he stated so himself often enough, yes there is the picture of him in an inter jersey as a kid but he gave an interview just before this season or early in the season where he wanted to clarify that he never was an inter fan. He said something along the lies of he liked inter but he always was and is a cagliari fan. As i understood it we were his favourite big team but thats it.

If people want italian and interista they d have to want bastoni