Summer 2011 Schedule

[blackmore]

Like I said... I'm not going to go through the goals with you one by one. Watch the game!I'm not talking about the incidents themselves which u keep on repeating over, and over, and over, and over. Yeah we get it you watched the highlights. I'm talking about how each individual incident arose, which u can only get from watching the game. There is no need for me to speak on this matter anymore as you clearly think seeing the highlights will somehow shed light on how the goals cam about. Yes in fact I'm positive the highlights show the build up play and breakdown of our defenders. Yes next time let's fuck watching the game... And stick to the YouTube highlights!One more thing... If asking you to watch the game instead of judging our teAm on the highlights somehow potrays me with a mightier then thou attitude, then call me Bruce.

---------- Post added at 16:04 ---------- Previous post was at 15:59 ----------

Just to Rey to your edit... I'm not saying you like/dislike this 343 formation. In fact it's not been mentioned at all. But I think the players lack of sharpness, is being mistaken with being lost on the pitch. It takes time to figure out a new formation and what everyones role is in the team. How could it be lack of sharpness, when our opposition have clearly looked the better team. No I really think it's more to do with the philosophies gasp is trying to enforce.

 

[scutzon]

Like I said... I'm not going to go through the goals with you one by one. Watch the game!I'm not talking about the incidents themselves which u keep on repeating over, and over, and over, and over.

Why was frog so slow in closing down on the first goal? Why did we commit a foul in such a dangerous position for the second? Why were we stranded with the walking timebomb that is the frog for the third? All these come down to us playing with three at the back.

Yes in fact I'm positive the highlights show the build up play and breakdown of our defenders. Yes next time let's fuck watching the game... And stick to the YouTube highlights!One more thing... If asking you to watch the game instead of judging our teAm on the highlights somehow potrays me with a mightier then thou attitude, then call me Bruce.

No need Sid... This is a new breed of fan, a kind of super fan. Where watching highlights of goals paints the perfect picture of how the goals came about.

But you are right, and the hundreds of ppl who saw the game are wrong.

Hi Bruce.

 

[blackmore]

Ok.


Talk to me when u watched the game..... cause like I said it's futile for me to try n explain it to you.

 

[Sid]

so right after the international break we play palermo then the CL okerface:

what's even more worrying is Gasp's post-match interview....

"We played very well. The result doesn't do us justice at all but that's ok. I'm happy because regardless of the defeat the lads did really well."




so on with 343 against palermo and Trabazopor.....the match threads are gonna be epic :slick:

 

[rfU]

Were are the "experts" who were saying that the 3 man defense isn't the problem of the team?

ahem, right here. didnt watch game so can't go into too much detail. even if the 3-4-3 formation was the problem, you should be greatful for it, because it exposes the various problems with this squad. We have slow, technically inept players with no skill or creativity. 4-3-1-2 does a pretty good job of hiding that fact with its defensive setting. we would manage okay in serie a but soon as we go to europe we get another drubbing similar to the Schalke incident. But as always, we shrug off the result, call it a one-off when in fact it happens each and every season. The real problem is not the formation. We're just not a good team :depress:

This is not merely a matter of Gasp changing formation (and in my opinion he doesn't have to), but Moratti rejuvenating the squad.

Anyway, I'm convinced the 3-4-3 can work. After all Udinese played the best football last season using this same formation. 4-3-1-2 is stale and predictable, offers no width and is relatively easily to play against. For this 3-4-3 to work, our players need to run their ass off like Barca do.

 

[blackmore]

Only thing is dude... We don't have that type of personnel at our disposal. It really takes a certain crop of ppl for it to be effective. I mean if thats the case, and by going with this logic, we should play 433 all the time, as it works brilliantly for barca. Something that works fof one team will not neccessarily work for another. However you're so correct about how the 343 highlights our weaknesses more then anything. I don't know if I would want to feel grateful though, as we keep on going n with it, to not much positive effect.I don't think anyone is expecting us to do anything in Europe this year, our main goal should be retaining the scudetto, which the rombo has been proven to be a winner. If it lacks width, then 4231 is probably our best bet. But let's see this new formation is definitely going to take some time getting used too...anything can happen. We definitely not good enough for Europe, but one more good signing and I don't see why we shouldn't be able to take the league title back.

 

[rsz85]

Gasp is right.

We were dominant all match (around 70 % ball possessing, have you ever seen such dominance in a Serie A-game?), and in the 2nd half we had lots chances with Faraoni, Pazzo, Deki coming on scoring 3 in ahalf against a well-defending Chievo (they used to conceed very few)

Yesterday game was our best in summer clearly.

 

[Sid]

Then we need as much friendlies we can get before the CL because judging from the way we played yesterday we are definitely not ready for the CL or the league for tht matter...

 

[rfU]

Something that works fof one team will not neccessarily work for another.

look, we have to play this sort of football, whether we like it or not. every team in the B-Liga plays 4-2-3-1 with wingers, high-defensive line, etc. No reason we can't modernize our football. Mancini had us playing this way all those years back and till today nothing has changed.

our main goal should be retaining the scudetto, which the rombo has been proven to be a winner. If it lacks width, then 4231 is probably our best bet.

that is true. but we see it every year. Moratti turns a blind eye to these things. How long until we got a real number 10 (Figo doesn't count).

but one more good signing and I don't see why we shouldn't be able to take the league title back.

Just one On the real though, Milan aren't such a good team. if we revert to 4-3-1-2 i'm certain we can beat them.

what's even more worrying is Gasp's post-match interview....

"We played very well. The result doesn't do us justice at all but that's ok. I'm happy because regardless of the defeat the lads did really well."

what do you want him to say? "oh this team sucks, stankovic is hopeless in midfield, cuchu is too slow to cover the defense, our crossing sucks... Ranocchia? I can't believe they paid that much for him."

No, he has to keep it positive.

 

[blackmore]

look, we have to play this sort of football, whether we like it or not. every team in the B-Liga plays 4-2-3-1 with wingers, high-defensive line, etc. No reason we can't modernize our football. Mancini had us playing this way all those years back and till today nothing has changed.

theres nothing wrong with playing with a system that works, no matter how long its been implemented for. If it aint broke, dont fix it right? Look at how loing SAF has been playing his 442 for. Players may develop different attributes and characteristics as the game evolves, but it doesnt mean the formation needs too, esp if its winning you games. Its very hard to adapt new systems.....in fact is there any modern day coach that has come into a top side and succesfully been able to totally revolutionize the teams play? Mourinho to an extent did with us with his 4231 that sat really deep and thrived on counter attacking others, but many who have tried, have failed. Ask Carlo, Rafa, Cappello. Im not saying it cant be done, but we have to at least look at the personnel we have first, and see if its feesible.

that is true. but we see it every year. Moratti turns a blind eye to these things. How long until we got a real number 10 (Figo doesn't count).

im a bit confused here, i thought atm we have one of the/if not the best no. 10 in the game atm. Maybe your talking about a winger type player instead?

 

[Olyzzerz]

Still no official game yet, no the supercup doesnt count..

First goal from Chievo yesterday was all Castelazzis fault, I would have taken that shot..

Next goal was from a well taken freekick, not much to complain about there.

Third goal was due to junior mistakes from Faraoni and Ranocchia, it looked a bit like their heads where in the lockeroom already.

Anyway I dont think we played awful yesterday but when we used 3-4-3 we had 0 shots on goal, in the secound half we changed formation to 3-4-1-2 and we became more dangerous in the last third of the pitch. Unless we get 2 new wingers before the transfer window closes we should stick to 3-4-1-2. With more concentration and less primavera players we wont loose a game like we did yesterday.

hoping for this formation against Palermo:

-----------------------------Cesar

-------------Zanetti-------Lucio------Samuel

----------Nagatomo-Cambiasso-Obi-Faraoni

---------------------------Sneijder

------------------Pazzini-----------Forlan

Why no Motta?

Im tired of him jogging home after losing the ball.

Why Faraoni?

He has been really impressive lately and I think his pace will offer us more than Jonathan.

 

[armendsh]

In the SECOND FUCKING HALF... Im saying this 100000000000times that it was not JULIO CESAR but was CASTELLAZZI

Cesar in half time he was in bench like all the others... Obi,Castaignos,Chivu,Lucio & Motta

 

[Olyzzerz]

In the SECOND FUCKING HALF... Im saying this 100000000000times that it was not JULIO CESAR but was CASTELLAZZI

Cesar in half time he was in bench like all the others... Obi,Castaignos,Chivu,Lucio & Motta

changed

 

[king_elnino]

It's nice to see different oppinion, but it will be more good to see if the expert here discuss the tactics with picture, show te + and - .. And how to solve the minus..

We interista not kind of people that juat blame like a child..
So please for who that say (-) please give us statement how to solve it..


Tanx

 

[Sid]

tbh despite us having so much possession the other teams have had better or should I say clear scoring opportunities....

we have been very impotent in attack....we are very vulnerable to counter attacks...right now we are a mess...

I would prefer to see this lineup against palermo...

------------------Julione--------

Faraoni/Naga/Jonathan---Lucio---Samuel---Zanetti

-----Alvarez----Cuchu------Obi--------

--------------Wes---------------

-----Pazzini/Milito----Forlan-----



CL:

------------Julione-----------

Maicon---Lucio----Samuel------Zanetti

--------Cuchu-----Motta/Obi/New CM

-------------Wes----------

New winger/forward---------------------Forlan

-------------Pazzini/Milito----------------

 

[Olyzzerz]

tbh despite us having so much possession the other teams have had better or should I say clear scoring opportunities....

we have been very impotent in attack....we are very vulnerable to counter attacks...right now we are a mess...

I would prefer to see this lineup against palermo...

------------------Julione--------

Faraoni/Naga/Jonathan---Lucio---Samuel---Zanetti

-----Alvarez----Cuchu------Obi--------

--------------Wes---------------

-----Pazzini/Milito----Forlan-----

4 backs wont happen man, Im sorry ^^

 

[Sid]

4 backs wont happen man, Im sorry ^^

:depress:

 

[perika]

http://eurorivals.net/inter-milan:chievo-highlights-goals-video_20110828.html

so crap ...

 

[Handoyo]

Friendlies are not important. Iirc, we had a stinker of a pre-season in 2009, drawing against UC-freaking-LA, but we still did well that season. We were also thrashed 5-0 by Barca in 2006 before we broke every record in Serie A.

But saying that things are all peachy after this latest defeat is just as wrong. I just hope that Gasp REALLY did learn the lesson from his latest experiment and don't make as much learning mistake during the course of the official season.

I honestly think we're fucked, but Branca & co deserves until 31 Aug to finalize the mercato and Gasp deserves to play some official match before we call for his head.

 

[Pajo]

Friendlies are not important. Iirc, we had a stinker of a pre-season in 2009, drawing against UC-freaking-LA, but we still did well that season. We were also thrashed 5-0 by Barca in 2006 before we broke every record in Serie A.

But saying that things are all peachy after this latest defeat is just as wrong. I just hope that Gasp REALLY did learn the lesson from his latest experiment and don't make as much learning mistake during the course of the official season.

I honestly think we're fucked, but Branca & co deserves until 31 Aug to finalize the mercato and Gasp deserves to play some official match before we call for his head.

that's what i said long before this happened. I'll judge the management after 31st of August 19:00, and i'll judge Gasperini and the individual players after 30th of October 15:00...