The Italian player debate

Doctor

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Political Science ? Surely indigenous Northern Europeans can't be black can they ?

The facts are the darker the skin the less tolerance there is !

Even though there is no rule about it, blacks can not rent the apartmant in center of the city.
Swedish people would rather rent their apartmants to white people for less money because they would not contaminate the apartmants.

A month ago I went out with a black girl (French).
And when I sugested that we should go to a night club she was reluctant.
-They mite not let me in.
-But why (I asked)
-Because I am black.
Even though she is from sufisticated sociaty (France) she must have had some bad expiriences.
First night club was ok.
But we had problems geting into a second one.
They made us weit extra long, as if they were hoping that we just give up and go elcewere. And nothing like that has ever happend to me before.
But mind you that I am white.
 

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Well how hard is it to get EU citizenship? If it is extremely hard then okay, the league rules do favor european players, but if it's not that hard then there really isn't that much of a problem...
 

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Even though there is no rule about it, blacks can not rent the apartmant in center of the city.
Swedish people would rather rent their apartmants to white people for less money because they would not contaminate the apartmants.

A month ago I went out with a black girl (French).
And when I sugested that we should go to a night club she was reluctant.
-They mite not let me in.
-But why (I asked)
-Because I am black.
Even though she is from sufisticated sociaty (France) she must have had some bad expiriences.
First night club was ok.
But we had problems geting into a second one.
They made us weit extra long, as if they were hoping that we just give up and go elcewere. And nothing like that has ever happend to me before.
But mind you that I am white.


Was she hot ?;)
 

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And what do you think?:D

So in accordance with my Afro American heritage, of which sergiu.inter claims I descend, all I can say is La Yeah Yeah: Hell, no... she's not no random chick. She could be IBM.
 
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So in accordance with my Afro American heritage, of which sergiu.inter claims I descend[/I].

What is your nationality, if you dont mind me asking?
And where do you live?
If you dont mind me asking.
 

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With my backgraound in Political Science (Stockholm University), I can tell you the following:
Both racism and nazism have many forms.
Discrimination toward prople of different nationality (highlighted in Blatter proposal).
Discrimination toward people of different race, or mostley sean threw discrimination toward people from different continents (and therefore colour is racism (EU citizens being favoured).

Favoring someone based on his nationality (in this case the Italian citizenship) is nazi while favoring someone based on his colour (all non EU citizens, mostley non white) is racism. That is pure definiciaon. It has very little to do with my perception of the problem. I am just explaining the teachings of political science.

So moral point is that people have lived for over 5000 years and have only until the 20th century discovered how to name their attitude... Instead of racism and nazism, consider the term REALISM.:lala:
 

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Well how hard is it to get EU citizenship? If it is extremely hard then okay, the league rules do favor european players, but if it's not that hard then there really isn't that much of a problem...

Depends on which nation. Italy.spain and Portugal are easier compared to the others.
 

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This rule blatter is trying to force is complete bullshit..he can shove this rule he wants to put up his ass.

That aside....it wouldnt hurt having a few italian players at the club...like using some of our talented primavera players(which is actually something mancio is trying to do) and trying to look for GOOD italian players as our subs rather than foreign players(Jimenez,solari etc..)

Also 2 players i would love to see at inter someday are cassano and ESPECIALLY Quagliarella....i think he is a great all around striker.
 

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Favoring someone based on his nationality (in this case the Italian citizenship) is nazi .

No its not. Its called nationalism. One would prefer their own locals, rather than foreigners.
 

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Sweet, that means I can go and be a citizen of Italy rather easily, because practically all of my family is from the boot. How would one going about "legally" proving direct relationship...

Anyways, on topic, the only question is why should clubs be penalized for pursuing talent? If their national players aren't good enough in their eyes, that's not the club being against the players that just a comparison of skill only.
 

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Can you explane the difference between nationalism and nazism?

You cannot be serious asking this, do you? :rolleyes:

Edit: Now I just read you said you attend Political Science at Stockholm University. This just makes your question even more shocking...
 

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You cannot be serious asking this, do you? :rolleyes:

Edit: Now I just read you said you attend Political Science at Stockholm University. This just makes your question even more shocking...

I asume that you missed my irony and therefore am going to explain my self.
My point is that there is a thin line betwean Nazism and nationalism.

Nazism split into two factions, the first was the nationalist-oriented faction led by Hitler which initiated and succeeded in violently purging the party of the socialist-oriented faction led by Gregor Strasser, his brother Otto and SA chief Ernst Röhm, which later became known as Strasserism.
 

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I know about it, you don't have to explain history. This is off topic but stating that there's not much difference between nationalism and nazism is plain BS...
 

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Bad news for us. Looks that Blatter has won it.It's much more probably rule that says only 5 foreingers on the pitch.

EU treaty singles out football
Friday 19 October, 2007
An EU treaty has specifically separated sport from other professions in the free market principles, putting limits on transfers and breakaway leagues.

During a two-day summit in Lisbon, the 27 Government leaders agreed on Friday to a ‘reform treaty’ recognising the “specific nature of sport” – excluding it from some economic competition rules.

The biggest shake-up that the EU forced on football was the Bosman ruling, when Jean-Marc Bosman’s 1995 court case prompted free movement of players across leagues.

“This is definitely an important moment and we are grateful,” commented IOC President Jacques Rogge of the new declaration.

“This is a major event that is crucial for the management of sport in general and especially football,” added FIFA President Sepp Blatter.

Blatter had recently suggested increasing limitations on foreign players in a club side to safeguard the youth academies and national teams.

The ruling also helps to protect against the G-14 – a group of the most powerful clubs on the continent including Milan, Real Madrid and Manchester United – proposals to create a breakaway league.

"We look forward to these principles being applied in practice in future, and we also regard this as a very important step forward," noted UEFA President Michel Platini.

“This is a great day for sport,” explained Gianni Petrucci, President of the CONI (Italian Olympic Committee).

“The recognition of sport’s specific circumstances by the EU in the new treaty represents a turning point for the world of national and international sport.

“Italy were among the first Olympic Committees to push in favour of this move, which must now be worked out in detail.

“From now on the international and national Federations must work together to formulate new strategies.”

The Italian Government was also content with the changes, as revealed by Minister for Sport Giovanna Melandri.

“Today is a wonderful day for sport and I am confident that alongside our European partners and sporting organisations we can work on a harmonious development of sport on the continent.”



L'Ue cancella la sentenza Bosman dopo 12 anni


12:55 del 20 ottobre

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Riconosciuta la specifità dello sport: dal 2009 meno stranieri nei campionati, piu' spazio ai prodotti dei vivai.
Se non si puo' parlare di rivoluzione, di certo i premier dei 27 Paesi hanno salvaguardato l'attività sportiva. Potrebbecosi' riprendere forza la proposta di Blatter: in ogni squadra sei uomini da nazionale e cinque stranieri.
La norma varata la scorsa notte: "La dimensione europea va sviluppata anche nello sport, promuovendo l'impazialità nelle competizioni sportive e la cooperazione tra gli organismi responsabili del settore sportivo proteggendo l'integrità fisica e morale degli atleti e delle atlete, specialmente tra i piu' giovani.
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Yeah we and Arsenal are ****ed.:wallbang: But they won't implement it straight away so it's time to getting some italians and primavera teamers promoted.
 

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We have Bolzoni and Balotelli that are good young talents and both italians plus we have 50% of Acquafresca. Still the decision is full of crap. We are INTERNAZIONALE not some standard italian team. :rolleyes:
 

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still wonder who the hell decided to sell Andreolli and take Rivas instead ???
 
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