The Suning Commerce Group

[Mikele]

He find investors and collect 2.5B. But, he also was looking to buy MU for 5-6B. With what money? Something here does not have sense to me.

 

[satubito]

This guy needs to shut the fuck up already. Super annoying and he isn't apart of the club. Now he's saying Mbappe to Inter will happen once he's owner. Fuck me. I already can't stand this guy.

 

[ADRossi]

This guy needs to shut the fuck already. Super annoying and he isn't apart of the club. Now he's saying Mbappe to Inter will happen once he's owner. Fuck me. I already can't stand this guy.

Yeah, I really want nothing to do with him. He talks way too much. Suning may blow, but this guy barely seems better.

 

[TheNetworkZ]

it's like breaking up with a girl who is a 5 to be with a 6.

 

[Nero Indigo]

This dude is sleazy!!! A lot of hot air. Rather stay with the Chinese until someone more resolute comes in.

 

[Corrode]

Arab money, European money or even American money are more legit to be invested rather than Chinese, Asian money in particular.

 

[CafeCordoba]

He find investors and collect 2.5B. But, he also was looking to buy MU for 5-6B. With what money? Something here does not have sense to me.

Probably the idea was to do the same thing. Raise money for the acquisition, though not 5-6 bn. Zilliacus turned away from United bid since he got the feeling Glazers do not want to sell and in the end, he was right. They didn't want to sell even to this sheik. Only accepted the minority shareholder coming in (Ratcliffe).

 

[CafeCordoba]

Everyone needs to understand our next owner MOST PROBABLY is going to want to profit out of the club, at least in the long run. It's not perhaps bad, compared to the Zhang ownership chaos but that needs to be acknowledged.

I rather take that than the sports washing scheme which is unlikely in my opinion at this moment.

 

[wera]

Give us the stadium and you can do whatever you want after that.

 

[ADRossi]

Everyone needs to understand our next owner MOST PROBABLY is going to want to profit out of the club, at least in the long run. It's not perhaps bad, compared to the Zhang ownership chaos but that needs to be acknowledged.

I rather take that than the sports washing scheme which is unlikely in my opinion at this moment.

Making profit will require having some semblance of a long term plan, unlike Suning.

 

[brehme1989]

You cannot make Inter profitable in isolation.

The entire league has to reach those levels.

And in football that's impossible. Even the PL which is the poster boy for football capitalism is not really profitable and they get an influx of dirty money and still cannot achieve that...


There's no such thing as turning the club into a profitable entity. There's the notion of growing revenue, but that's where it all ends.

 

[wera]

Making profit will require having some semblance of a long term plan, unlike Suning.

Well I am sure Suning had some kind of longterm plan before money problems in China started popping up

 

[Asperiini1]

As a Finnish person, like Cafe i would like to give some feedback about this.

You can see difference with Nordic people and other people in around the world. Nordic people wants to give information about their doings and its not that uncommon, when other people around the world are mostly doing things in hide. This is really the Nordic way to announce things. Not Finnish way, but more Nordic way what he is doing.

I think Italian league needs a powerhouse team who will raise the league to new level. It needs money and power to do so. Something like this could bring Inter to next level and show that Italian league can attract good players and its not a farmers league for PL. Same thing went on in PL 15-20 years ago, when clubs like Chelsea and City got big owners who wasn't scare of putting money in the table and buy the best players from every place on earth.

I really think we need to do this and get our media attention to other level, its not sustainable in the beginning but after what Thomas said that we have 500 million fans around the world but it doesn't add up in the revenue. We need more media coverage, we need more IT-coverage for the fans. Why anyone in this fucking football industry haven't done the XR live game coverage (could be because the TV deals), but if i could buy an XR live game seat from the stadium and watch the game like live from my own eyes i would fucking buy season ticket for 300-500e per year easily.

From my perspective, Thomas is not even sleezy guy. He just wants to inform he's doings public because he wants to buy the club and pressure Suning to sell it. If a Finnish person says that he's not that sleezy, it's odd because we if somebody hate sleezy people and hate media attention whores

PS. Nice to be back after many years. Time has flying in the Discord world.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Excellent point. I recalled Zilliacus talked about the straightforwardness of Finnish people (well, as you said, it's maybe more of a Nordic thing in general) in the interview, but no, he didn't do it.

 

[brehme1989]

Well, Norwegians are straightforward.
The Swedes can be, if they decide to talk.
The Danes have no filter ( <3 )
But I've never gotten a Finn to talk out loud so not sure if that's true

 

[CafeCordoba]

Making profit will require having some semblance of a long term plan, unlike Suning.

Yeah that was the gist of my post basically.

 

[Mikele]

If I understood well, this guy value Inter 1B. They allways use ACM to compare, that is sold for 1.2B. But, they do not mention, that is only 70% for Redbird, and Elliot still keep 30%. Ok, we have huge dept, but no way that our value is much lower than their. I think 1B, how much this guy wants to offer is way bellow from our real value. With just little adjustment, just little better choise of players, I am sure we can be top 10 club easily.

 

[CafeCordoba]

If I understood well, this guy value Inter 1B. They allways use ACM to compare, that is sold for 1.2B. But, they do not mention, that is only 70% for Redbird, and Elliot still keep 30%. Ok, we have huge dept, but no way that our value is much lower than their. I think 1B, how much this guy wants to offer is way bellow from our real value. With just little adjustment, just little better choise of players, I am sure we can be top 10 club easily.

I think the Milan deal valuation was 1.2bn. And RedBird indeed bought only 70% but 70% of the 1.2bn.

Difference between the clubs financially is Inter has 415m debt, due in 2027. Other differences are there aswell like revenues and costs but that debt is a major one. I was told by smarter people that usually that kind of debt deals are triggered to be paid back if the loanee changes (technically, in the case of ownership change).

 

[Forzanerazzurri]

I think the Milan deal valuation was 1.2bn. And RedBird indeed bought only 70% but 70% of the 1.2bn.

Difference between the clubs financially is Inter has 415m debt, due in 2027. Other differences are there aswell like revenues and costs but that debt is a major one. I was told by smarter people that usually that kind of debt deals are triggered to be paid back if the loanee changes (technically, in the case of ownership change).

Yeah, Lender has to consent and then generally the debt is taken out but it doesn't have to be.

 

[Nerazzurri_Ninja]

work your magic suning