Zlatan Ibrahimovic

[Suneet]

Word!.

People should learn how to get over something.

 

[caelestis]

This will be a season to remember in sooo many ways hopefully.

 

[dark-marc]

well ... he is a mercenary
thanks for his effort in three years
but now he's only a player that WAS in Inter before
he will regret it for leaving Inter at this time

anyway, we already have another new "Zlatan" in Arnautovic

 

[hallak]

well ... he is a mercenary
thanks for his effort in three years
but now he's only a player that WAS in Inter before
he will regret it for leaving Inter at this time

anyway, we already have another new "Zlatan" in Arnautovic

i think our "new" zlatan would be destro "such an awesome name BTW" which i hope we keep him

 

[blackmore]

new zlatan..no thanks id rather he just be himself...dont think i could take another whinging premadonna in the team...

 

[Handoyo]

Just wanna say that to all the people criticizing him for only doing well against the likes of Parma or Siena or whatever 'small' teams you think they are...

Many people think & remember that we lost the Scudetto at the Olimpico against Lazio but for me, the most costly defeat was undoubtedly the 1-2 defeat against Atalanta in the last sprint of the race.

So before you utter the words that Ibra is a big game choker, please remember that all freaking points count in the league, be it 3 points against Siena, Lecce or Ascoli. Call him a CL choker, but never call him a big game choker.

(Wanted to close the Ibra chapter permanently but this just crossed my mind so...)

 

[Adam]

I always felt it was inevitable Ibra would leave us. He could never let go of the titles he "won" with Juve. Playing for Inter that was a situation that was always gonna be a problem.

Anyways, people calling Ibra a mercenary or a traitor doesn't annoy me. But it's frustrating to read things about him like he what he did for us these past 3 years was nothing special. These days everybody are so convinced we'll win another scudetto, with good reason, but three years ago even with the points penalties and all, more or less every single member on this forum were scared shitless we were gonna screw up a title that we had basicly "won" before the season even started. Remember that when you call him a choker.

Now that we got the extra cash for Hleb Ibra went as the second highest transfer of all time. Keep in mind this is a player we bought from Juventus. In terms of transfers between the to clubs they can't hold anything over our heads anymore, because they commited one of the biggest transfer fuckups in Italian football of all time. Instead of being bitter you should take pride in that fact, and that it was at Inter Ibra developed into a true superstar of the game.

 

[Luka]

Han, easy man...

No matter how many arguments anyone could use, there is too many contrarguments(for example not enough support). But I think we can all agree, that right now at Barca, we will know for sure, if Ibra is big game chocker in fact, or it was only Inters inability to help him.

 

[n4l]

inabilty to help him??
get off it....please

how come the same team that is "unable to help him" didn't matter when he scored 25 in the league?

so he can score 25 "with no help" but can't score shit in the CL??

2 years of CL with a strong ass Juve team
3 years of CL with a strong ass Inter team

of those 5 years, how many times did zlatan deliver the goods in crunch time?
are you going to blame the squads for 5 FREAKIN' YEARS OF POOR PERFORMANCE?

if he succeeds at barca, all that shows me is that this barca team is a remarkable team....has nothing to do with ibra....shit, players like sonny anderson and kluivert scored goals in barca and it didn't mean squat about how good they are....

people here need to understand that in a TEAM, players have roles and players have to do their jobs...
if not, the TEAM loses...

in 08, ronaldo's role at manchester was to create and score.....
he did so and did so without others needing to create 4-5 chances for him...

in 09, his role was still the same....
however, he did not deliver so they lost...simple as

like or not, zlatan gets paid to create and score...
he does it in the league but he didn't do it in the CL

no excuses...

 

[Hasan]

Every Inter fun must be grateful to him.

 

[Adam]

inabilty to help him??
get off it....please

how come the same team that is "unable to help him" didn't matter when he scored 25 in the league?

Because he's that Godly of a footballer. Are you gonna deny that a vast majority of his goals came due to his own individual brilliance?

of those 5 years, how many times did zlatan deliver the goods in crunch time?
are you going to blame the squads for 5 FREAKIN' YEARS OF POOR PERFORMANCE?

No I blame him for missing his chances, and I blame the team for missing the chances he created, and for their inability to create unless he was behind it. You act as if Ibra was the fault for us playing badly. I haven't been at one single rival forum where someone has hold the opinion: Wow, Inter played great, but Ibra was shit!.

Look at the matches: Against Valencia he was behind the two goals we scored. In the second leg he was shit, as was the team, but he created the better chances. Against Liverpool, shit in the first leg due to circumstance, in the second leg he created more or less everything we had. Same thing against Manchester. People give him shit for missing his chance just outisde the box and the header that hit the bar, but forget that Cambiasso, Adriano and Stankovic had much better and easier chances in those legs, created by Ibra.

people here need to understand that in a TEAM, players have roles and players have to do their jobs...
if not, the TEAM loses...

Exactly. And at Inter he's been doing the target man's job, the goalscorer, and the playmaker. Once against PSV even as the defensive midfielder.

Anyways, he's at fault, as is the team for not being good enough but if you think Inter had a strong ass team in those years, able to compete with Europe's best, you're delusional.

 

[bennyblanco]

Ibra is the man...comparing him to everyone under the Sun is soooo American.im i watched sportscenter where they were disussing Ibra and Ronaldo...so random...comparing what Ibra does in his sparetime and what Ronaldo does... who gives a crap?

 

[bennyblanco]

inabilty to help him??
get off it....please

how come the same team that is "unable to help him" didn't matter when he scored 25 in the league?

so he can score 25 "with no help" but can't score shit in the CL??

2 years of CL with a strong ass Juve team
3 years of CL with a strong ass Inter team

of those 5 years, how many times did zlatan deliver the goods in crunch time?
are you going to blame the squads for 5 FREAKIN' YEARS OF POOR PERFORMANCE?

if he succeeds at barca, all that shows me is that this barca team is a remarkable team....has nothing to do with ibra....shit, players like sonny anderson and kluivert scored goals in barca and it didn't mean squat about how good they are....

people here need to understand that in a TEAM, players have roles and players have to do their jobs...
if not, the TEAM loses...

in 08, ronaldo's role at manchester was to create and score.....
he did so and did so without others needing to create 4-5 chances for him...

in 09, his role was still the same....
however, he did not deliver so they lost...simple as

like or not, zlatan gets paid to create and score...
he does it in the league but he didn't do it in the CL

no excuses...

lol i knew i remembered you....you are the former Adri fanboy and local Ibra hater of yesteryear?

and now that Ibras gone you making a comeback ...nice

 

[n4l]

where in my statement did i say ibra is NOT a "great" player?
he is a great player


but
fact is fact...

in 5 years, he's been extremely successful in serie A
in 5 years, he's been extremely subpar in CL

since the "help" does not exist in both cases, why does he only perform in serie A and not in CL?

fact is, the non-existence of "help" cannot be his excuse for his failures in CL, since it has not hampered his performance in serie A, even against the big teams....

i have no problem with the man and his talent...
my problem is that he is a kop out and puts his team under the bus....
he is never to blame for anything...
no class whatsoever

after the CL final, even ronaldo and rooney acknowledged that:
(a) barca were better than them that day
(b) THEY DID NOT PRODUCE/PERFORM

 

[blackmore]

buti have no problem with the man and his talent...
my problem is that he is a kop out and puts his team under the bus....
he is never to blame for anything...
no class whatsoever

after the CL final, even ronaldo and rooney acknowledged that:
(a) barca were better than them that day
(b) THEY DID NOT PRODUCE/PERFORM

i myself have this same problem with him...i would hold him in very high-esteem if not for this fact..none the less he was a great player for us...lets see how he does at barca..

 

[Luka]

inabilty to help him??
get off it....please

how come the same team that is "unable to help him" didn't matter when he scored 25 in the league?

I'm not on either side!!! I have my opinion but it is pointless here to talk about it now.

I just pointed out it will be very interesting to see how he will do this year, because there will be no arguments, if it will happen again.

 

[n4l]

I just pointed out it will be very interesting to see how he will do this year, because there will be no arguments, if it will happen again.

well imo, what he does in barca is irrelevant...

if he doesn't score a ton, i'd honestly say that guardiola unbalanced a perfectly working system and it's not really on ibra

if he does score a ton, all i'd say is saviola, kluivert, and sonny anderson have all gone there and scored goals

fact is he was extremely successful here in the league but not in the CL...
you can attribute that to whatever you like...




and to adam, two things

(1) so what were we paying ibra 12mil for?? he was the highest paid player in the world...why?
to perform in the league and not the CL? to blame HIS inability to create and convert in the CL on the team??

(2) you are saying that Inter did not have a strong team??
are you smoking??

where do you (and others) get this idea that the CL is this prestigious thing that only the "bestest squads" can compete, and that without "x" player or "y" player, we cannot compete??

the competition is mostly about confidence, mentality, discipline, and luck more than anything......
and we've lacked all those components...

ffs, porto won with an extremely subpar squad.....
monaco made finals the same season with another non-exceptional squad
so did liverpool (traore, milan baros, smicer, kewell?? come on now)
psv, valencia, porto all making quarterfinals e.t.c
those squads were certainly not better than ours

 

[Luka]

well imo, what he does in barca is irrelevant...

if he doesn't score a ton, i'd honestly say that guardiola unbalanced a perfectly working system and it's not really on ibra

if he does score a ton, all i'd say is saviola, kluivert, and sonny anderson have all gone there and scored goals

Seems Ibra can't really loose or win can he ?

I don't care if he will score 100 goals, or 0 goals. Or I care is to see him playing versus Real Madrid, Man Utd, Chelsea etc, and see how he will do against those teams in Barca shirt. I don't see what's wrong with this. It is perfectly logical, and it answers many discussions that stated that Ibra couldn't cope at Inter in CL, because the team couldn't support him. Now he has a team who won prior to Ibra coming, where the striker wasn't a focal point of their strategy. It's not like changing Gerrard at Liverpool with Aquilani, or Lampard with someone else. Those are focal points, at Barca focal points are Xavi and Iniesta, followed up by Messi.

 

[n4l]

so if he scores, what questions will it answer for you??

if he's not the focal point at Barca and scores in the big games in the CL, will that mean:

(1) it was Inter/Juve fault or
(2) that he cannot take the pressure of being the focal point?

i am just trying to understand your perspective

 

[bennyblanco]

where in my statement did i say ibra is NOT a "great" player?
he is a great player

i stand corrected...you werent just the Ibra hater...you pretty much hated anyone in our team that was starting infront of Adriano

man i have to stop with the smileys,i feel like Azzkicker...sort of like a Montgomery Burns type of laugh...yhhesss