Zlatan Ibrahimovic

[Handoyo]

I think the Ibra debate with browha should be PRECEDED by another debate: Do you need to excel in CL/big games in order to be considered world class?

Because Ibra is definitely not world class if you consider those factors. BUT, if you define world class in another way, and that is, it's ok to bottle big games as long as you did fine in a massive majority of the small games, then Ibra is world class because he just destroys minor teams.

38 league games
You bottle 8 big games
You still have 30 games against 'small teams'
Means 90 points AKA almost automatic league title

I personally consider him world class even if he flops in Barcelona, and even if he flops in most big games. But his consistency against the smaller teams, and how he wins domestic league titles in almost every single fucking season that he plays (Milan 11/12 is the only example that comes to mind when he didn't win) is enough justification for me.

 

[I4E]

Of course Ibra is a 'World Class' player. It's an absolute crime to suggest otherwise. I think people get too carried away by judging a player based on IF he wins CL medals or just how many trophies he's won. History is littered with 'great players' that didn't win many trophies, and because of this you simply cannot take away the fact that they were/are great WORLD CLASS players.

Quite simply, there are ~200+ million registered footballers ranging from junior amateur to senior professional level across the whole world. What we see in the top leagues and international level barely makes up .05% of these players (if that). Then when you continue to sift through that remaining number, you are left with the 1000's of professionals that play at the 'top 4' leagues in the world.

To be good enough to even be a 'squad' player for a team in the top 4 leagues is an extremely remarkable achievement in itself, let alone being a regular starter. But when you continue to breakdown the numbers further, and find players that have incredible ability to perform at a level that stands them out amongst the others, then you are a WORLD CLASS player.

The best 30, 40 or 50+ players that are playing across the TOP clubs in Europe (Barca, Bayern, R.Madrid, Man U, Juve etc etc) are ALL WORLD CLASS PLAYERS ! they sifted themselves out from the millions of footballers in the world to be chosen/selected/developed to play at the BEST with the BEST.

To say Ibra isn't world class but Ronaldo is, is just differentiating which one is better than the other. But it doesn't make one world class and the other just 'a really good footballer' !

 

[Fapuccino]

Lmao are people still going on about this? Ibra not world class??? IBRA???? ARE YOU PEOPLE OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MINDS????

He's the best fucking #9 in the world. Yes better than Cavani, Falcao, Costa, RVP, or whomever.

 

[Rimpel]

Lmao are people still going on about this? Ibra not world class??? IBRA???? ARE YOU PEOPLE OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MINDS????

He's the best fucking #9 in the world. Yes better than Cavani, Falcao, Costa, RVP, or whomever.

Indeed

 

[rockball]

#Gay4Ibra

#Ibra4Life

#ZlatanIsGod

no homo.

 

[qb4ever_2k]

Lmao are people still going on about this? Ibra not world class??? IBRA???? ARE YOU PEOPLE OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MINDS????

He's the best fucking #9 in the world. Yes better than Cavani, Falcao, Costa, RVP, or whomever.

Nope, Luis Suarez.

 

[Kakaroto]

Luis Suarez is a number 7......

 

[I4E]

so who's the best number 16 or 21 or 11 or 34 or...

 

[wera]

And the cycle continues...

 

[Rimpel]

Nope, Luis Suarez.

Debatable, if people are going to use the "Ibra disappears in big games"-argument (which definitely is not the case anymore) then Suarez is worse against big teams in the PL.

 

[.h.]

And the cycle continues...

see why i didnt want to do this?

 

[Ffi201zi002tlis]

Who started this debate again ? Ban him.

 

[.h.]

Who started this debate again ? Ban him.

....

you

Above average ? Really ? Milito in treble season and Eto'o in the season later > Ibra at his peak. They lead the whole team to title just like Ibra did, but the difference is they scored against all tough oppenents, which Ibra failed badly.

Ibra can't do shit against defenders like Samuel, Vidic or Chiellini. How can he better than our treble team ?

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or was that the joke?

 

[Ffi201zi002tlis]

But I was serious. blivious:

 

[qb4ever_2k]

Debatable, if people are going to use the "Ibra disappears in big games"-argument (which definitely is not the case anymore) then Suarez is worse against big teams in the PL.

Last big team Liverpool faced was Chelsea and he was great in that match. I don't know what big teams you were talking about.

 

[wera]

Yeah, even if he didn't score, he still had a great game. It's obvious Chelsea has a better team tho.

 

[Devious]

Never gets old

 

[wera]

I am Zlat'n

 

[Rimpel]

Last big team Liverpool faced was Chelsea and he was great in that match. I don't know what big teams you were talking about.

Huh? Scoreless and Liverpool lost, if you call that great I'd love to know how you define a decent/bad game:trolldad:

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Never gets old

lmao

 

[Alan]

Real conversation:

Pep: ......

Ibra: GET SOME FREAKING CAJONES AND TALK TO ME!