Zlatan Ibrahimovic

Is Zlatan Ibrahimovic a world class player ?


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Nitpicking but I’d say the ego is much more genuine than you make it out to be. The whole persona and image is built on his (in)famous self confidence after all. He didn’t blow a kiss to our Curva to maintain his media personality and sell more of his A-Z sportswear, he did it because he’s a prick. In the US in particular he probably played it up even more so but IMO it’s like a 75-25% split in terms of what’s real and what’s maintaining an image.

And while he may no longer regret leaving Inter, he did ask to come back after we won the treble.
 

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He ditched his club after they were punished with relegation and stripping of the title(s) he himself 'won', for the very club most resposible for their relegation and taking those titles away.

A player moving to the most hated rival is already a huge drama, yet he managed to commit an even bigger transdression.

If you let go for a second it's Rube and Inter, that's the level of detachment you rarely see.
 

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Nitpicking but I’d say the ego is much more genuine than you make it out to be. The whole persona and image is built on his (in)famous self confidence after all. He didn’t blow a kiss to our Curva to maintain his media personality and sell more of his A-Z sportswear, he did it because he’s a prick. In the US in particular he probably played it up even more so but IMO it’s like a 75-25% split in terms of what’s real and what’s maintaining an image.

And while he may no longer regret leaving Inter, he did ask to come back after we won the treble.

The A-Z sportswear doesn't exist anymore.
 

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He ditched his club after they were punished with relegation and stripping of the title(s) he himself 'won', for the very club most resposible for their relegation and taking those titles away.

A player moving to the most hated rival is already a huge drama, yet he managed to commit an even bigger transdression.


If you let go for a second it's Rube and Inter, that's the level of detachment you rarely see.

Vieira also did that. Don't see anyone calling him arrogant though.
 

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Also IIRC his relationship with Curva Nord was not good. Can be seen in this match :

[youtube]dCAb0_bJ7D8[/youtube]

Whats nice to see here was his gesture to the curva, he didnt care that not all of the people were booing him or that there were kids there, let me just curse them out to make myself feel better. Good for your Zlatan, u win a free teddy bear.

I guess some players have to be arrogant and go overboard to win and be the best but at the same time u have to be humble. He may also be a player that feeds off negative energy and having people against him. All i know is Mido considered him a friend of his and threw a pair of scissors at him when they were really young and Mido may be crazy and emotional but in general is like a good dude so the warning signs for his personality was there.

Also Dax is right, he might not give to two fucks out of anything outside of football, he just talks and plays and then lives a quiet life with his family so i wouldnt be so pissed at him that someone would check him in real life.
 

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You can be born in Sweden, have a nice Swedish wife with smart kids, you can buy a Ferrari, house on the beach ...

But you cannot

Delete Balkan from your DNA
 

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Also IIRC his relationship with Curva Nord was not good. Can be seen in this match :

[youtube]dCAb0_bJ7D8[/youtube]

Whats nice to see here was his gesture to the curva, he didnt care that not all of the people were booing him or that there were kids there, let me just curse them out to make myself feel better. Good for your Zlatan, u win a free teddy bear.

I guess some players have to be arrogant and go overboard to win and be the best but at the same time u have to be humble. He may also be a player that feeds off negative energy and having people against him. All i know is Mido considered him a friend of his and threw a pair of scissors at him when they were really young and Mido may be crazy and emotional but in general is like a good dude so the warning signs for his personality was there.

Also Dax is right, he might not give to two fucks out of anything outside of football, he just talks and plays and then lives a quiet life with his family so i wouldnt be so pissed at him that someone would check him in real life.

He talks about this very scene from the Lazio game in his book. It happened after we crashed out of the CL and Ibrahimovic announced to media that he might leave because he didn't think that Inter had quality to win CL and Juve/Inter scudettos got stale for him. Since I have it in electronic format I will just directly copy-paste it here:

There was a good and a bad side to everything. The better I was, the more agitated the supporters got about my wanting to leave the club, and before our match against Lazio on the 2nd of May 2009, the mood was explosive. The Ultra fans had written ‘Welcome Maximilian’ and that kind of thing. They could show love. But they could also hate – not just the opposing side but their own players as well, and I sensed as soon as I came in. San Siro was at boiling point.
All week there had been things in the papers about how I wanted to leave Italy and try something new. Nobody could have missed it. Early on in the match I worked my way into the penalty area. I struggled, but couldn’t get the ball, and in situations like that the supporters usually applaud. Like, good try. But now I was getting boos and jeers from the Ultra fans. I was like, what the hell, we’re working hard down here and we’re at the top of the league table, and this is what you bring. Who are you? I shushed them. Put my finger up to my mouth. But things didn’t get any better, and just before half-time the score was still 0–0 even though we’d kept up a lot of pressure, and then they started booing the whole team, and that made me go off on one, or more accurately, I got pumped up with adrenaline.
I’d show them, and like I said, I play better when I’m angry. Remember that – if you see me when I’m furious, don’t worry. All right, I might do something stupid and get a red card. But most of the time it’s a good sign. My entire career has been built on the desire to strike back, and in the second half I got the ball about 15 metres outside the penalty area. I turned. I rushed in. I feinted, and made a goal shot between two defenders. It was a shot of pure rage, a nice goal. But it wasn’t the goal people talked about.
It was my gesture, because I didn’t celebrate. I ran backwards into our half of the pitch with my face turned towards the Ultra fans, and all the time I was shushing them with my finger to my mouth again. It was like, shut your mouths. Here’s my reply to your shit. I score goals, and you boo. That became the big thing in that match, like, did you see it? Did you see it? It was something totally new.
It was a public battle between the fans and the team’s biggest star, and over on the sideline stood Mourinho – no victory gesture from him, of course. Who would’ve expected it? But he obviously agreed with me. Shit, booing your own team. He pointed at his head, like: you’re morons up there in the stands. Of course, you understand, if things were tense before, they were even worse now, there was a rumbling in the stadium. But I continued to play well. I was running on pure rage, and made a forward pass to make it 2–0. I dominated, and was happy when the referee blew the final whistle. But that wasn’t the end, not by a long chalk. As I left the pitch, I got word that the Ultras’ leaders were waiting for me down in the changing room. I have no idea how they got in there.
But there they were down in the passage, seven or eight blokes, and not the kind who say things like, excuse me, could we have a quick word? They were guys from the kind of streets I came from: guys brimming with aggression, and everybody around me got nervous, and my pulse went up to 150. I was really stressing out, honestly. But I told myself: you can’t chicken out now. Where I come from you don’t back down. So I went up to them and I saw right away, that made them uneasy, but they played it cocky, like, what the fuck? Ibra’s stepping up to us?
“Are there people who have some sort of beef up there?” I asked.
“Yeah, well, a lot of them are mad…” they began.
“Well, tell them to come down onto the pitch and we’ll sort it out right here, mano a mano!”
Then I walked away, and my heart was pounding. But it felt good. I’d coped with the stress. I’d stood up for myself, but the shit carried on. The supporters’ club demanded an official meeting. But come on. Why should I meet with them again? What was in it for me? I was a footballer. The fans might be loyal to their club. That’s nice. But a footballer’s career is short. He’s got to look after his own interests. He moves around to different clubs. The fans knew that. I knew that, and I told them: apologise on your website for your boos and your jeers, and I’ll be happy. We’ll forget about this. But nothing happened – or rather, the Ultra fans decided they’d neither boo nor cheer me. They’d pretend I didn’t exist. Good luck with that, I thought.
 

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You can be born in Sweden, have a nice Swedish wife with smart kids, you can buy a Ferrari, house on the beach ...

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Delete Balkan from your DNA

Sounds perfect to me tbh.
 

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Thats fine but he didnt just shush them, the video shows what he did. Anyways it always seemed like he would be a player that would move around a lot and thats what happened. I am sure he is happy with what he did in his career.
 

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Zlatan Ibrahimovic’s ex-teammate claims the Milan striker once threatened to ‘kill’ LA Galaxy’s players and bragged about having ‘€300m in my bank account’.

Ibrahimovic will go down as one of MLS’ greatest imports, scoring 53 goals in just 58 games for the Galaxy before returning to Milan in January.

However, Joao Pedro painted a different picture of the Swede, arguing he was an controlling influence in the club’s dressing room.

“We went to play at Houston Dynamo,” he told Record.

“We went 1-0 up, they went ahead, we got it back to 2-2 and they responded with 3-2 in the last few minutes.

“At the end of the game, in the dressing room, he gave us a rollocking. ‘Guys, if you’re here to go to the beach and take a walk through Hollywood then just say so.

“’I have €300m in my bank account and an island. I don’t need to be here. The first person who says something to me, I’ll kill them.’

“Once we were about to have a kickabout and someone asked: ‘Who’s kicking off?’ The assistant coach said: ‘Joao Pedro because it’s his birthday today.’

“Ibrahimovic turned to him and said: ‘Everyday’s my birthday. Pass the ball over here.’ And he laughed.”
 

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Mihajlovic: 'Ibrahimovic to Bologna or Sweden'

Bologna coach Sinisa Mihajlovic told Serbian television that Zlatan Ibrahimovic ‘certainly won’t remain at Milan’ next season. ‘He’ll either join us or return to Sweden.’
Ibra’s contract with the Rossoneri only runs to the end of this campaign after he signed on as a free agent in January, but the constant changes behind the scenes and lack of certainty appear to make remaining improbable.

Zlatan had considered joining Mihajlovic at Bologna in January, but it seems that option is still out there.
“He called me a few days ago and we’ll see what he decides to do in the summer,” Mihajlovic told Serbian television Vece sa Ivanom Ivanovicem, according to Telegraf.rs.
“He certainly won’t remain at Milan, then it remains to be seen whether he’ll join us or return to Sweden.”

During the lockdown in Italy, Ibrahimovic was training with Hammarby, the club he co-owns in his homeland.

The striker and Mihajlovic are very good friends, but the coach insists there is also a great deal of respect between them and it wouldn’t be an issue to work as his tactician
“Ibra treats me differently from the others, he watches what he says and how he behaves. That’s because dangerous people recognise each other!” :D
 

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I'm kinda curious: How would you rate his return to Milan?
 

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World class



























:trollol:
 

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He lifted the team up, gotta give him props for that
 

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hes done a lot better than I thought he would, tbh. Fair play to him.
 
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