Philippe Coutinho

snake · Jan 22, 2013

If we had not sold Sneijder, then I could see this deal happening.

Hopefully not anymore. Give Liverpool Alvarez instead.

monster09 · Jan 22, 2013

MoneyMay said:
What forums are you guys reading. To be honest the reason I think Liverpool fans are confident is down to who is reporting the news. As I said earlier if news about Liverpool fc is reported by Tony Barrett, Chris Bascombe, Andy Hunter, James Pearce I think it's fair to say that what they're reporting is not speculation and has come from the club. Whether Liverpool are getting ahead of themelves I can't answer that question but Tony Barrett saying we want close to 12m Euros is not to be dismissed. Even the bbc reporter Ben Smith is saying we want £9m-£10m. It's just a matter of whether Liverpool will raise their initial bid.

I have already said "reliable sources on twitter said Liverpool have made their final bid" so I believe Liverpool made the bid, just that Inter won't be selling him for the quoted price.

And WE= Inter fan? Very believable

Kakaroto · Jan 22, 2013

browha said:
I'm not shitting on the english media. None of the real reports have said anything about Coutinho being CLOSE to signing for Inter, just that the bid was rejected and Liverpool have to offer more.

I'm shitting on the fans who, in typical LFC fashion, see "Liverpool bid for Coutinho" and think "omg new ronaldinho but better, we're going to win the league, he's going to play in the cup on saturday"

I understand that and see where you are coming from. My comment was more to say that some of us here have discounted this as just a rumor but things coming from Inter seem to suggest there is a chance if ever so slightly.

The meeting from today says things like "more sacrifices" and right now the only one that seems to be garnering any interest where the money would be good is Coutinho so there is a chance he is sold.

I understand that probably the fact that he has been labeled the "future" of Inter might prevent a sale but the way this management does business I wouldn't be surprise one bit if they don't care about that.

Again I'm not referring to you more so a general sense of what is mostly believed in the forum.

Visca · Jan 22, 2013

monster09 said:
Tbh I agree with this. In various forum, Liverpool fans post as if Coutinho is all set to sign for them. Hell I have even seen posts like "Sneijder is not a big loss for us (liverpool), Coutinho is the player we need" paraphrased,

Guy I know is doing all of that, even nicknamed him "GOATinho"

MoneyMay · Jan 22, 2013

monster09 said:
I have already said "reliable sources on twitter said Liverpool have made their final bid" so I believe Liverpool made the bid, just that Inter won't be selling him for the quoted price.

And WE= Inter fan? Very believable

I don't get you mate.

monster09 · Jan 22, 2013

Visca said:
Guy I know is doing all of that, even nicknamed him "GOATinho"

From GOATijder?

.h. · Jan 22, 2013

Interista809 said:
I understand that and see where you are coming from. My comment was more to say that some of us here have discounted this as just a rumor but things coming from Inter seem to suggest there is a chance if ever so slightly.

The meeting from today says things like "more sacrifices" and right now the only one that seems to be garnering any interest where the money would be good is Coutinho so there is a chance he is sold.

I understand that probably the fact that he has been labeled the "future" of Inter might prevent a sale but the way this management does business I wouldn't be surprise one bit if they don't care about that.

Again I'm not referring to you more so a general sense of what is mostly believed in the forum.

Again, there is a possibility of a sale. But that is 100% contingent on NOT selling Alvarez. That is the ONLY scenario in which Coutinho leaves. Lets be clear and 100% unambigious about that right now.

In terms of sacrifices, we basically gain very little for selling Coutinho. The savings from selling Coutinho amount to fuck all, because he has little in the way of wages, and we post something like a +8m profit on him. Not worth it. To replace him will cost at least that already.

Sacrifices are made at Inter right now by wage savings. A la Sneijder, Forlan, Lucio, Maicon, Cesar, Eto'o, etc. NOT by selling our CHEAPEST players.

Selling Alvarez at 8m will make more money for us (because of his wage) than Selling Coutinho for 12. Simple as that.

- - - Updated - - -

there are rumours of 12m euros for Cou to Southampton.

That I can believe. They have the manager who managed Cou at Espanyol last season.

MoneyMay · Jan 23, 2013

http://www.fcinter1908.it/?action=read&idnotizia=72427

Kakaroto · Jan 23, 2013

Southampton To Raise: 12 Million For Coutinho. Inter Giving In?

.h. · Jan 23, 2013

The Southampton offer I can see both us and Coutinho saying yes to.

n4l · Jan 23, 2013

With pochettino coaching there, cou would be smart to peace out...

vasilios · Jan 23, 2013

monster09 said:
And WE= Inter fan? Very believable

Seriously

MANTA · Jan 23, 2013

Didn't they just get Gaston Ramirez there?

The thing is the Paulinho deal seems to be stumbling, so unless Coutinho is pushing hard to leave I don't think the club are in a rush to cash in.

YNWALFC · Jan 23, 2013

MoneyMay said:
I don't get you mate.

I'm thinking Monster09 (Manc fan) thinks your not a Inter fan.

MoneyMay · Jan 23, 2013

browha said:
The Southampton offer I can see both us and Coutinho saying yes to.

haha funny how you were adamant we won't sell Coutinho to Liverpool unless we don't sell Alvarez, yet you seem to think Southampton's offer would be accepted with no mention of it being dependent upon whether Alvarez stays or not. Is Coutinho no longer Moratti's golden boy if Southampton are in for him?

MANTA · Jan 23, 2013

MoneyMay said:
haha funny how you were adamant we won't sell Coutinho to Liverpool unless we don't sell Alvarez, yet you seem to think Southampton's offer would be accepted with no mention of it being dependent upon whether Alvarez stays or not.

Coutinho didn't want to go to liverpool. If a former coach can convince him to push for a deal it could happen.

The whole premise was that Coutinho wanted to stay and Inter didn't need to sell.

MoneyMay · Jan 23, 2013

MANTA said:
Coutinho didn't want to go to liverpool. If a former coach can convince him to push for a deal it could happen.

The whole premise was that Coutinho wanted to stay and Inter didn't need to sell.

But that is not how browha came across. He was so adament Liverpool won't get Coutinho, stating that he's Moratti's golden boy etc and that the only slim chance of him leaving is if Alvarez stays. Now that Southampton are allegedly in for him (people putting 2+2 together because Coutinho old boss is now the manager) he all of sudden says he can see a deal being agreed lol. Southampton are in a relegation battle so I'm certain it's not a forgone conclusion that he'd go there knowing that the club could easily be relegated.

.h. · Jan 23, 2013

MoneyMay said:
But that is not how browha came across. He was so adament Liverpool won't get Coutinho, stating that he's Moratti's golden boy etc and that the only slim chance of him leaving is if Alvarez stays. Now that Southampton are allegedly in for him (people putting 2+2 together because Coutinho old boss is now the manager) he all of sudden says he can see a deal being agreed lol. Southampton are in a relegation battle so I'm certain it's not a forgone conclusion that he'd go there knowing that the club could easily be relegated.

Actually, given the balance in terms of the managers and so on, I think its far more likely - also because they're offering substantially more money.

I think for Southampton Coutinho will push more - If he is interested in a move - because that is the manager who has produced the best ever Coutinho we've seen, and in terms of reviving his career, getting back to his best would be important.

In such a way, I'm not against another 6 month loan for Cou.

The doesnt, however, get round the fact that its extremely unlikely we will sell Cou, its basically conditional on the Alvarez situation, but I can see Southampton - mainly because they are offering a serious amount of money, as the only bidder to do so thus far - having an okay chance at signing him.

Would still, overall, expect him to remain at Inter currently.

Fitzy · Jan 23, 2013

I can't understand why we'd want to sell Coutinho at all. If he wants playing time, he should be loaned again... At least until Strama's fascination with this fucked up 352 is over. Bottom line is, his potential is huge, his wage is so damn insignificant (he earns less in a year than Rocchi will earn in 6 months, which in itself is apparently 'nothing'), and a transfer fee of 8-12 mil for a creative talent of his potential and hype is nothing in today's football tbh. Even if Sneijder had stayed, and Alvarez does stay, I'd be against it... If he is being sold to generate cash to bring in fucking Paulinho, I'll be putting my palm to my face more often than Lionheart puts his palm to his penis.

Can't say I believe the rumours though... :pazzini:

.h. · Jan 23, 2013

Honestly, I dont know really where Liverpool would play Coutinho right now.

I certainly dont think he's going to offer much on Downing - who, whilst he's been a terrible signing for Lpool, is starting to show some form - and if they are going to start Sturridge regularly at Centre Forward, Suarez either has to move to a wing (unlikely), or they change formation to something more like a 4-4-2.

Sterling on current form certainly deserves his place, in my opinion, which in the current formation leaves only really the AMC position, if you're assuming Allen-Lucas then Gerrard has that in the bag.

He can go from sitting on the bench at Inter to sitting on the bench at Liverpool. Simple as that. Not really worth it - he'd probably have more space at the moment at Liverpool since they play a formation suitable for him, and we currently dont, but that's not going to fix his problems.

Southampton would be the better choice in terms of actually playing, and development, imho.

Philippe Coutinho

Rate the player:

10 - Will be one of the absolutely best players in the history of the game (think Meazza, Matheus)

9 - Will be one of the club legends, and become one of the best players in the world of their era

8 - A player of very good quality, who will add much to the team, one of the best nationalwise

7 - Good player, a valuble asset of a team, one of the 10-15 best on his position in the country

6 - Above average player, who will be usefull, but will never be a key player for a team

5 - Completely average player

4 - Below average, not a disaster, but would be better if we didn't sign him in the first place

3 - Anonymous player who will never be remembered through the fact nobody expected anything from him

2 - Close to a useless player, who will add nothing to the team besides filling the CL quota

1 - Crap, shit, useless player, worst buisness ever, Mancini, Quaresma and Gresko combined

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