2021/2022 Forwards Rumours Thread

CafeCordoba · Jan 4, 2022

vex said:
What's the logic behind the possible alvarez deal. Satriano somewhere on loan and this kid in? We already have four capable forwards, none of them are useless, so giving 20 mil for this kid seems like an overkill right now.

Only logical thing is if we are booking him for summer.

The deal is for the summer, not for January. We are probably dumping Sanchez but I'd look for something more with Dzeko's stature than 1.7m Tevez.

#NotForMe · Jan 4, 2022

Just watched some youtube videos of Alvarez, and read the link below.
Not trying to be the devil's advocate, but I like him so far, also I can't really expect a 21 year old kid has any standout attribute or like a specialist of any kind, but as of right now he seems to have more potential than Satriano by how comfortable they are on the ball and when they send it out (finishing, crossing, passing).

He also seems to be able to improve on his off ball movement.

diamen said:
btw I've read a nice article about Julian Alvarez some time ago:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1471465595405230086

tbh he's not my favourite profile, I would prefer us to buy someone similar to Dzeko.

I would say Lautaro is more like Trevez and Alvarez is more Aguero, even they are all pretty different.

I could be all wrong though, who knows at the end of the day.

Universe · Jan 5, 2022

As far as I'm concerned they are all Martin Palermo's

wera · Jan 5, 2022

just younger and shittier

CafeCordoba · Jan 5, 2022

Romano says United "interest" is just a play from the agent to generate the interest for the player and it's very unlikely he moves to United. Which makes sense given it wouldn't make any sense for this guy to move to United.

RotterdamNerazzurri · Jan 5, 2022

Not thrilled with the Scamacca rumours at all. And certainly not for the amounts we are talking about. I admit i don't watch Sassuolo games regularly so maybe he's growth a lot in the last couple of seasons. But he was really awful in the Dutch league. And i mean thats the same league where people like Pelle and Vleminckx (you probably don't even know the guy) set the world in fire.

At PEC Zwolle people even questioned his ability for professional football at all. Looking back at that now seems a bit harsh, but he showed nothing that indicates he would ever be a striker for a club like Inter. Italian forwards are a special kind though, they tend to mature later and maybe he disliked living in the Netherlands too. Though i wouldn't touch Scamacca.

CafeCordoba · Jan 5, 2022

Who cares how has Scamacca done in PEC Zwolle? That's 3 years ago, I couldn't give a flying fuck.

He's a legit target player, still young and has a cannon of a shot. He's 23 years old, you guys indicate like he's some finished product.

RotterdamNerazzurri · Jan 5, 2022

CafeCordoba said:
Who cares how has Scamacca done in PEC Zwolle? That's 3 years ago, I couldn't give a flying fuck.

He's a legit target player, still young and has a cannon of a shot. He's 23 years old, you guys indicate like he's some finished product.

You're right it doesn't say much, but it says something. I mean he was so bad, PEC wouldn't even use him anymore because he showed nothing. Yes thats 3 years ago and every player have a different growth curve, so maybe he just wasn't ready yet. But is he really setting the world on fire at Sassuolo right now? Last year he wasn't even a sure starter and he wasn't for this year until the 8th playday either.

I think it's a huge gamble too pay that amount of money for such a player. But maybe your'e right and he can be the guy, and he could be a good understudy of Dzeko. I'm a bit sceptical though.

.h. · Jan 5, 2022

RotterdamNerazzurri said:
You're right it doesn't say much, but it says something. I mean he was so bad, PEC wouldn't even use him anymore because he showed nothing. Yes thats 3 years ago and every player have a different growth curve, so maybe he just wasn't ready yet. But is he really setting the world on fire at Sassuolo right now? Last year he wasn't even a sure starter and he wasn't for this year until the 8th playday either.

I think it's a huge gamble too pay that amount of money for such a player. But maybe your'e right and he can be the guy, and he could be a good understudy of Dzeko. I'm a bit sceptical though.

I think that's testimony to his rapid development in the last 18 months or so, though.

He's now playing for Italy, etc.

A lot of it will depend on how the rest of his season goes - lets be clear on that. If he doesnt score for the rest of the season I doubt very much we'll consider him, but if he keeps up his last ~10 or so games, he's an interesting target. As would be Raspadori.

Stefan · Jan 5, 2022

Scamacca is extremely overrated. If we are taking one from sas I would rispadori well before Scamacca. He atleast has 2 seasons of 10+ at under age level.

The only thing scamacca has going for him above better options is height.

varmin · Jan 5, 2022

Scamacca is overrated in my eyes too, but don't underestimate the growth of a certain player. For example, Vlahovic looked like shit 2.5 season ago. Duvan in his early days at Napoli, looked to me like log with arms and legs, but he has developed to an excellent technical level.

PHM1605 · Jan 5, 2022

You have to consider the price tag too. Atalanta was allowed to loan Zapata, could make sure he played very well before paid significant sum for him.

If Scamacca costs 20m or loan option, sure, go all in. But if he is going to for what Sassuolo is asking, 40m, meh, basically you are paying double the current value for the (maybe nonexistent) potential.

I am considering Pinamonti to Sass is bullshit because they won't pay FIFTEEN times of wage for a Scamacca replacement.

.h. · Jan 5, 2022

tbh Pina will accept he needs to cut his wage to move his career on. He can sit on our books for 3? 4? more years and make good money, but then retire when he's 25. Or he could cut his wage and actually try to make something of himself.

qb4ever_2k · Jan 5, 2022

If we can do Pina + 10m for Raspadori then lets go for it. Less hype than last year, but hes doing lowkey great. 4 goals and 4 assists so far.

.h. · Jan 5, 2022

no way that'll happen, tbh.

I could see Pina+15-25, but +10 is ridiculous from Sass's perspective IMHO

CafeCordoba · Jan 5, 2022

Yeah, Pinamonti doesn't have big market value. It can always be inflated with these Scamacca 40m€ type deals but like I've said in this thread earlier, in a pure cash deal we could MAYBE get 10m€ with Pinamonti sale.

And no club is going to buy Scamacca for 40m€ in cash so you guys need to just forget that number because you have obviously unable to comprehend what it consists of.

Stefan · Jan 5, 2022

varmin said:
Scamacca is overrated in my eyes too, but don't underestimate the growth of a certain player. For example, Vlahovic looked like shit 2.5 season ago. Duvan in his early days at Napoli, looked to me like log with arms and legs, but he has developed to an excellent technical level.

2.5 seasons ago vlahovic was 19. That's 4 years younger then what scamacca is now. He struggled in serie a as expected at that age but scored 11 in 13 in the Primavera.

Zapata is a late developer. Only became great at atalanta. At udinese and samp after napoli he was OK but nothing special.

PHM1605 · Jan 5, 2022

CafeCordoba said:
Yeah, Pinamonti doesn't have big market value. It can always be inflated with these Scamacca 40m€ type deals but like I've said in this thread earlier, in a pure cash deal we could MAYBE get 10m€ with Pinamonti sale.

And no club is going to buy Scamacca for 40m€ in cash so you guys need to just forget that number because you have obviously unable to comprehend what it consists of.

Sassuolo isn't in financial trouble, plus Scamacca contract is long enough, so they don't need to sell. Look at Berardi; they never budge from their 35m evaluation, no matter there is a buying club or not.

Stefan · Jan 5, 2022

CafeCordoba said:
Yeah, Pinamonti doesn't have big market value. It can always be inflated with these Scamacca 40m€ type deals but like I've said in this thread earlier, in a pure cash deal we could MAYBE get 10m€ with Pinamonti sale.

And no club is going to buy Scamacca for 40m€ in cash so you guys need to just forget that number because you have obviously unable to comprehend what it consists of.

We are well aware of what the numbers consist. Some of us do not consider it value for money whether it's €40 mil in cash or €25 mil + pinamonti. It's still way overvalued.

magnesium · Jan 5, 2022

Scamacca is overpriced because he is italian and typical strong forward.

He had potential to become Italian Vlahovic next year. That's why Sassuolo place 40M to him.

Italian >>> Serbian in terms of price.

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