2018/2019 Midfielders Rumours Thread

[brehme1989]

100 for sms is ok, but we dont have that kind of money don't we?

We have it, but we're not allowed to use it.

 

[andrei]

We have it, but we're not allowed to use it.

Are you sure? Papa Zhang has it, but I doubt Inter has it.

 

[wera]

Hey, guys, how much would Luis Alberto cost? Less, right? He is their second best player, we snatch him, Lazio is in trouble.

(this is really just me talking outside of the box - if we have Modrić, Nain and Brozović, then I don't want to spend 100+ on SMS. But a creative player like Luis Alberto for about 25mil wouldn't be a bad deal)

 

[Balor]

It's more than that my friend.
Ronaldo is 33y. You don't know how many best years he has. I saw many players who were world class and after one year they were a shell of himself. You cannot predict this.
SMS is 23y. You'll buy him for 10y, assuming you are not a selling team.
At one point you need to have complete team and not change more than 1 or 2 players. Look at Real or Barca, the most successfull teams in the last 10y. They have world class players but also very stable. The players turnaround was minimal.

But the difference is with Ronaldo you know you have instant results at the very top level, he will still be untouchable for at least another two seasons if not more.

SMS is 150m on a player that we can't say for certain will deliver something phenomenal for 10 years, he is yet to play at the highest level and I nor anyone else know what the finished product is with him, and 150m is too steep a price to find that out, unless you are Real Madrid who can afford that experiment.

If you look at when Ronaldo was signed by Madrid in the first place, he was already top scorer in England, fired United to domestic and European glory and had scored in a CL final. Could Madrid say without doubt he was worth 100m? ABSOLUTELY! Can you tell me without a shadow of a doubt that SMS is worth spending so much money we get raped by UEFA sanctions for another 5 years?

 

[n4l]

I don't think you've really watched Lazio in the past two seasons.

SMS literally has to do everything because there is no fucking plan. It's either run to the flanks or push it forward and hope for the best. SMS is literally single handedly controlling the game for Lazio, ensuring they have more attacking than defensive duties.

Of course I've watched Lazio. Your observation is similar to what I observe, except interpreted differently. At Lazio there's always a DM, a good striker, and wide support players. But SMS (and Luis Alberto) essentially get to do what they want offensively and defensively in the CM roles. There is no discipline required to their positional roles offensively and defensively. That makes them look really good....both players are good, but that style makes them look even better.

Bigger teams have much more tightly defined roles and responsibilities. Much more.

Think about players like Pastore or even Shaquiri. Give them the chance to freelance, they look like geniuses. Put them in a tight system and they seem limited. Not saying SMS is limited since we don't know that yet. But that's my point. We don't know and it's a risk. And that's a risk, at the price Lotito is hyping, is for mega rich clubs to gamble on. Not us. If we spend even 60mil, it needs to be near guarantee.

He's a much bigger player than Pogba was at Juventus. The only differences were the Scudetti and the astronomical difference in wuality between the two midfields. He's no gamble, he's by far the best transfer anyone could hope to land from Serie A.

Pogba proved at Juventus:
- he is tactically astute. Very tactically astute. He played DM for Pirlo. Pure CM. Wide CM. Played them all with discipline, interpreted the role correctly, AND add his unique characteristics to it.
- he can play with other big players and still contribute effectively. Knew when to be submissive and simple with his play and knew when to ramp up and take over.
- he can play under big pressure for results week-in, week-out

For me those points are HUGE. You were getting a near guarantee with Pogba. No way SMS is worth Pogba or more.

 

[rockball]

I haven't seen SMS enough, but n4l's analysis makes sense to me since I play a similar free role on the pitch. There are times when I shine a lot, but when things go bad the blame is never on me since there isn't a clear responsibility or things that I am at blame for.

Also in the last couple of years, Pogba has proven that he is the real deal. Incredible player.

 

[JJM]

Are u guys really debating King Modric with some newbie like SMS?!
What has SMS done in his career yet?!
His football skills are no match for Modric even if he is young. He will never have Modric vision level.
We need a regista besides Brozo not a b2b mf as we don't play 3 man midfield anyway
We have Radja and Lautaro to play trequartista.
We don't need SMS, and we can't afford him either, not without selling Perisic who will be crucial to our game again...
130mil for SMS is insane!
Then Brozo is worth 300mil as he actually got in to CL and is a WC finalist who broke a running record in a game.
Yet i hear 40mil offers from Spurs... Pfff
Lotito knows how to inflate prices while Ausilio is still an idiot in this game.
Brozo should have a 300mil release clause and Icardi 500mil. Then we can stop shivering every start of July... Lol

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[DARi0]

For fellow interisti dreaming of SMS: It will not happen. For that kind of money, should not happen, either. Lotito is fishing for ManUtd/Real here [Pogba wants Barca, Real need Luka replacement]. Not even juBentus [who perhaps could afford such an investment] are taking the bait. Deal with it. Move on.

I don't think Spalletti would have three players over 30 in his midfield (valero, Nainggolan and Modric). So all this Modric talk is just a distraction.

Why would Valero start in our midfield? :serious: Yes, it`s distracting me from work. :work:

Gotta lean on the realists here. We really wont get Modric nor SMS in anytime soon.

This whole Modric saga is driving me nuts.

Modric will never happen.

I`m just saving these for the future.

 

[magnesium]

There are so many kinds midfielder.

Box to Box, Creative, and Defensive. or many other, i don't know all.

SMS is a type who can do anything but not best at anything.

He can heading, shooting, passing,dribbling but if you compare him with Modric, he is different.

SMS is worth for 100 million for any club who really need him in their system.

But we already had Nainggolan, who already fit in our system, so we don't need SMS.

We need more creative player like Modric, so our midfield had good creativity.

 

[brehme1989]

Hey, guys, how much would Luis Alberto cost? Less, right? He is their second best player, we snatch him, Lazio is in trouble.

(this is really just me talking outside of the box - if we have Modrić, Nain and Brozović, then I don't want to spend 100+ on SMS. But a creative player like Luis Alberto for about 25mil wouldn't be a bad deal)

He really is not their 2nd best player. He's had like 5 good games in an entire season, mostly against the SPALs and Beneventos of the league, and also scored a couple of nice goals. I remember Nocerino also scored a couple of nice goals when Milan won the Scudetto and I also remember people rating him as a great midfielder during the same time. Rather similar situation here. Luis Alberto is just pretty good at set pieces, that's about it. I've been saying that he was much worse than Brozovic when it was unpopular to like Brozo and he had his head into his ass. I'd rather keep Vecino than get Luis Alberto.

We got Lazio's 3rd best player from last season in de Vrij and they might sell their best player (SMS).

The only CMs from Italy that it makes sense to get are guys like Benassi (CT, decent and won't complain about playing time), guys like Jankto, Ilicic or Zielinski who can be used in our rotation for more than just the MC spot or guys like SMS (world class) and Pjanic. Or Nainggolan that we already signed. And most aren't really worth the trouble as their clubs will ask for too much.

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As for SMS, he does not have a free role at Lazio. He just has to be everywhere. That's my point. He has to defend, he has to faciliate the midfield, he has to attack, he has to run, he has to be the physical guy, he has to be the creative guy. Put him at a proper team where he'll have at least 2 world class players around him and then you'll see him be actually liberated. Pogba did not have much duration in the positions you're mentioning. Yes, he did play in them, but he was mainly the 2nd gear next to Vidal and since Juventus didn't really have to care about what was happening behind the midfield with their concrete defence and 12th man, Pogba became an offensive power. Look at him now at Man UTd where he's forced to play deeper and all you see is a frustrated, yet talented midfield who cannot do much because the rest of his team is not up to par.

 

[Jassa]

I will never get why SMS costs 100m.

 

[Rasha]

i will never get why many of them cost 100m

 

[Candreva Crosses]

I will never get why SMS costs 100m.

That´s fucking easy. Because the owner says so and people are ready to pay it?

 

[Broncodonk]

Nobody has payed it yet.

 

[CoolMan44]

I will never get why SMS costs 100m.

At the end of the day, it's really this:

He had a great season at Lazio who are in no hurry to sell him. He has a good combination of strength, passing, goal-scoring that's valuable in a player. There's the market which dictates crazy prices for players. Add his age and the fact that even some average players have gone for over 50 million (Sigurdsson), and there you have it.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Damn, huge letdown if Modric goes south.

Who we can get then? Paredes sounds incredible acquisition after we've tried for Modric. Are there anyone else?

 

[brehme1989]

Checking some Twitter accounts for Inter news, instead landed on this hot piece of information by our beloved Marialuisa

 

[Fapuccino]

I will never get why SMS costs 100m.

In reality, SMS is just somewhat better than Brozovic. I guess that's worth 150m in today's market.

 

[Black&Blue]

Damn, huge letdown if Modric goes south.

Who we can get then? Paredes sounds incredible acquisition after we've tried for Modric. Are there anyone else?

Fabregas

 

[CafeCordoba]

So is it Barella who we gonna get if Modric just played us? I'd prefer him to Paredes. On the other hand Paredes might be more ready to be in Inter starting lineup?

Of course, Thiago Alcantara would be ideal. Zero links to him but why the fuck not? If he's put of Bayern and there's no room in Barca.