2023/2024 Forwards Rumours Thread

Who would you prefer we sign as our striker?


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That wasn’t what your post was about, you criticised them for not taking risk on young players and only going after the experienced, however that just ain’t true, very, very far from it in fact.

As the names I put up shows, Inter continently bring in young players, also risky ones and has been doing so for more then a decade.

Lets make a list of under 24 years
Asllani 20 years
Bisseck 22 years
Frattesi 23 years
Bellanova 22 years
Vanheusden 21 years
Hakimi 21 years
Barella 22 years
Pinamonti 21 years
Salcedo 17 years
Brazao 18 years
Agoume 17 years
Lazaro 23 years
Radu 22 years
Gravillon 20 years
Martinez 20 years
Karamoh 19 years
Balde 23 years
Dimarco 20 years
Barbosa 20 years
Bastoni 18 years
Skriniar 21 years
Dalbert 23 years
Gagliardini 22 years
Cancelo 23 years
Mario 23 years
Brozovic 22 years
Kondogbia 22 years
Shaqiri 23 years
Murillo 23 years
Ljaljic 22 years
Dodo 22 years
Icardi 20 years
Taider 21 years
Belfodil 21 years
Laxalt 20 years
Wallace 19 years
Kovacic 18 years
Schelotto 23 years
Alvarez 23 years
Juan Jesus 20 years
Poli 21 years
Ranocchia 22 years
Biabiany 22 years
Coutinho 18 years

I might have missed some on the way, but that’s at least 44 players since summer 2010.
Count the primavera kids recruitment then to make the list to 1000. How many of them we do really care? Brazao, Vanheusden and such not even a single minute and you prove "we are taking the risk"???

We bring them but mostly never use them. We priotize Gagsi over Asllani or Arnautovic over Mulattieri. Coutinho a hundred million player, dont let me prolong the list.
 
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It was a fucking farce all along.

Just like 'spending' to replace lukaku after the scudetto.
Just like 'spending' to replace hakimi after the scudetto.
Just like 'spending' to replace onana after selling him this summer.
Just like 'spending' to rebuild the forward line after a deep CL run.

The reason some are surprised that we were 'committed' to spend $40m on lukaku and then turned around and spent less than $10m total on forwards for arnautovic is because we were never going to cough up the money. All the 'hung deals' and 'overpriced' players, blah blah blah.
 

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Count the primavera kids recruitment then to make the list to 1000. How many of them we do really care? Brazao, Vanheusden and such not even a single minute and you prove "we are taking the risk"???

We bring them but mostly never use them. We priotize Gagsi over Asllani or Arnautovic over Mulattieri. Coutinho a hundred million player, dont let me prolong the list.

Time to admit you where wrong. You thought Inter did’t take a chance in buying such players, now your just moving the goalpost to be about the coach.
 

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She's 37, still looks amazing. Last time I saw her was in White Lotus season 1
 

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The media just fed us shit for a while that we were happy to eat up. Last summer they were saying that we needed to make 60M. Guess it's the same now - we're after surplus, not strengthening. I'd go as far as to Lukaku knowing we wouldn't have bought him after his loan and that's why he contacted Juve. Dude just wanted to stay in Italy.
 

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Lol yes let’s make up excuses for Lukaku not taking the phone… Inter and Chelsea had already agreed on the fee. His former teammates even called him!

That one is entirely on Lukaku and no one else. His best shot at staying in Italy has always been at Inter, a club where he was appreciated.
 

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Time to admit you where wrong. You thought Inter did’t take a chance in buying such players, now your just moving the goalpost to be about the coach.
Seriously, you don't understand by "buying" ofc I mean for the sake of first team benefits?!? Every teams have their own academy. I mean respecting kids and willing to give them a chance. You are just proving my point, hundreds of kids but not even 10% are not being treated like bargaining chips. It happens for 13 years, so no coach is of alone responsibility.

That is a system. There have been teams like Dortmund or Ajax or Barca. There are the current Milan, they are buying good u25s for bargaining price. And here I emphasize again, "buy" I means "buy and use". Not spend the money then dump him on the bench or loan to freaking Basel or Troyes and you call that we are treating them properly.
 

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Seriously, you don't understand by "buying" ofc I mean for the sake of first team benefits?!? Every teams have their own academy. I mean respecting kids and willing to give them a chance. You are just proving my point, hundreds of kids but not even 10% are not being treated like bargaining chips. It happens for 13 years, so no coach is of alone responsibility.

That is a system. There have been teams like Dortmund or Ajax or Barca. There are the current Milan, they are buying good u25s for bargaining price. And here I emphasize again, "buy" I means "buy and use". Not spend the money then dump him on the bench or loan to freaking Basel or Troyes and you call that we are treating them properly.

Those players where at large bought to the first team in those 13 years. A few was bought as long term investments and send out on loan to gather experience and playing time. Others ended up like that because the coach refused to use them to any large extent of one reason or another, or they simply failed to make a mark.

Very few of those where in fact academy players, if I included those players the list would have have been endless.

The directors can do nothing about it if a coach decides not to use said players, it’s the coach who selects the team to play the game not the directors. They can buy several every single season as they done the past 13 years, but if the coach refuses to use them they can do nothing about it, other then fire him and hope the next one will.

The directors have bought plenty of under 24 players, they taken sufficient chances on the market and are not focusing only on old experienced players as you indicated that they are… They have for years tried to make a balance of both experience and talent. Zhang even gave a guideline for average age at some point, but it’s out of their power if a coach refuses to put those players into action. They can try convincing and speak to the coach about it, but at the end of day it’s the coach who select the team..

Inzaghi is well known for showing little trust to none experienced players, Conte was a little better but not all that much and the list of coaches Inter had in those years with a similar attitude is extensive.

Milan basically at large only bought young players with a few exceptions, the coach had no real other choice then to field them. But Inter try a more balanced approach those it can have the effect that young players entirely end on the bench, however that has not been the case for years, it gotten loads better. But it’s still a challenge because of the conservative attitude and valuation of youth still precent among Italian coaches and in fact the country as whole.

But Inter directors brought in more then 40 players in that age, you can not realistically expect them to do more then they do, they have done plenty. The issue is entirely on the coach now and in the past it was also on not being good enough at selecting the right ones.
 

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It's a fact that last season we had the highest average age in the league - 28.5. It's probably a bit better now but still.

I'm neither a fan of relying on kids only, nor of exclusively buying players close to retirement. What I'm a fan of is lowering this age by 1-1.5 years.
 

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It's a fact that last season we had the highest average age in the league - 28.5. It's probably a bit better now but still.

I'm neither a fan of relying on kids only, nor of exclusively buying players close to retirement. What I'm a fan of is lowering this age by 1-1.5 years.

It was only that high because we had one at 40, one at 38 and one at 37.

Average age is borderline useless number because if you have players at a very high age or very low it’s going to massively screw with it.
 

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Those players where at large bought to the first team in those 13 years. A few was bought as long term investments and send out on loan to gather experience and playing time. Others ended up like that because the coach refused to use them to any large extent of one reason or another, or they simply failed to make a mark.

Very few of those where in fact academy players, if I included those players the list would have have been endless.

The directors can do nothing about it if a coach decides not to use said players, it’s the coach who selects the team to play the game not the directors. They can buy several every single season as they done the past 13 years, but if the coach refuses to use them they can do nothing about it, other then fire him and hope the next one will.

The directors have bought plenty of under 24 players, they taken sufficient chances on the market and are not focusing only on old experienced players as you indicated that they are… They have for years tried to make a balance of both experience and talent. Zhang even gave a guideline for average age at some point, but it’s out of their power if a coach refuses to put those players into action. They can try convincing and speak to the coach about it, but at the end of day it’s the coach who select the team..

Inzaghi is well known for showing little trust to none experienced players, Conte was a little better but not all that much and the list of coaches Inter had in those years with a similar attitude is extensive.

Milan basically at large only bought young players with a few exceptions, the coach had no real other choice then to field them. But Inter try a more balanced approach those it can have the effect that young players entirely end on the bench, however that has not been the case for years, it gotten loads better. But it’s still a challenge because of the conservative attitude and valuation of youth still precent among Italian coaches and in fact the country as whole.

But Inter directors brought in more then 40 players in that age, you can not realistically expect them to do more then they do, they have done plenty. The issue is entirely on the coach now and in the past it was also on not being good enough at selecting the right ones.
You are reacting as if directors and coaches are sitting on two different islands and they dont care each others work lol. Buying and selling players are under mutual agreement.

Again, buy a player =/= trust. It could be on pure financial purpose. We acquire a cheap one to make plusvalenza in the future. We dont have a single thought of using most of them. It is proven on the field and on the average age.

We made a big dump mistake last summer by priotizing Lukaku over Dybala. We only thought "hey, Lukaku is safer this year so lets LOAN him instead of OWNING Dybala". Now we are stepping on the same footstep again "hey Arnautovic is more proven THIS YEAR so lets not overpay for Balogun ONCE".

See the point? The management (notice, I blame the whole, coach is part of a problem) too short-fucking-sighted as if they do not think more than two years. Next year, let me tell you the forecast that we are stucking to the same shit again, getting robbed by Atalanta on e.g. Duvan Zapata the third time because Arnautovic is already expired, despite a newcomer. Eventually we can never feel safe with our finance.
 

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It was only that high because we had one at 40, one at 38 and one at 37.

Average age is borderline useless number because if you have players at a very high age or very low it’s going to massively screw with it.
We had 3 players close to 40, yet average age is a useless stat for showing the average age of the squad... Makes sense.
 

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You are reacting as if directors and coaches are sitting on two different islands and they dont care each others work lol. Buying and selling players are under mutual agreement.

Again, buy a player =/= trust. It could be on pure financial purpose. We acquire a cheap one to make plusvalenza in the future. We dont have a single thought of using most of them. It is proven on the field and on the average age.

We made a big dump mistake last summer by priotizing Lukaku over Dybala. We only thought "hey, Lukaku is safer this year so lets LOAN him instead of OWNING Dybala". Now we are stepping on the same footstep again "hey Arnautovic is more proven THIS YEAR so lets not overpay for Balogun ONCE".

See the point? The management (notice, I blame the whole, coach is part of a problem) too short-fucking-sighted as if they do not think more than two years. Next year, let me tell you the forecast that we are stucking to the same shit again, getting robbed by Atalanta on e.g. Duvan Zapata the third time because Arnautovic is already expired, despite a newcomer. Eventually we can never feel safe with our finance.
Your just so wrong, majority of those 40 was bought to be used by the first team and not as you write some sort of cheap plusvalenza or bargain chip. Several in fact gotten plenty of playing time but just didn’t make a sufficient mark, others where simple put ill suited to the team, and others where just little used by the coach. Very few was bought because of a direct request by the coach, they where just the type he requested or close to it.

Also you having too high thoughts on the influence the coach has on the market in Italy… mutually agreement is definitely stretching the definition longer then the actual reality. They can put forward a list of players or type the want and what players they want too keep, but it’s not like they have a final word and can block ingoing or outgoing transfers or the club doesn’t go forward with it if the coach isn’t on board with it, just ask Conte it’s more listening too input, information of intent and accepting their decision in some cases they might meet midway but it’s not like they won’t sell a player or buy a prospect because the coach is against it.

It wasn’t a mistake not getting Dybala , it was a mistake getting Lukaku. Both players where in reality to expensive in wages that finances of the club really should be able too allow.
 

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We had 3 players close to 40, yet average age is a useless stat for showing the average age of the squad... Makes sense.

When you have only about 20-25 players having 3 at a very high or low age is enough to screw with an average.

The only thing that is worth looking at is the percentage of players within a given age group. Average age is an utter useless number because of the incredibly small numbers of individuals we are dealing with. One player alone is 4-5%
 
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