Carlos Alberto Tévez

[jmaster]

If I'm not mistaken, You were the one who quoted only a part of my post, taking it slightly out of context and issuing a very concise reply that leaves little room for discussion.
Perhaps calling others ignorant pricks is a bit too much!

As for the matter about Moratti, even someone unfamiliar with Inter can notice that something has changed in his attitude towards the club since we won the treble. The reasons for that are debatable.

I will talk a little about facts , and not words.

1) It is a fact IMO that our lack of spending last summer has brought us in the position where we had to make miracles to challenge for the title, which has eventually eluded us.
If we would've reinforced the team in that summer, instead of weakening it, our chances would have been surely much higher.

2)It is also a fact that today, the 26th august 2011, the Inter squad is, quality-wise, miles away from our competition in Europe.
Again, until today we have only weakened the squad, while the reinforcements are either players for the future or players of questionable quality.
We can discuss until next year the reasons behind this, the long-term strategies, if they exist, and so on, but THE FACTS remain valid.

I wonder if it is someone, at least one person on this board, who says that he is content with our current squad and quality as of today.
If so, I would really like to hear his opinion, because it seems that, at least in the eyes of the press, the management is quite happy with our squad so far. Perhaps there is something I do not understand....

I want Carlito Tevez here, because signing such a quality player would mean that Moratti hasn't given up on making the necessary financial sacrifices for this team to be competitive. That is what I ment through my post, perhaps I have explained it clearer now.

First of all, sorry for my attitude.

Second of all, you could have responded in the way you just did, and not completely ignore and ridicule the post.

I respect your opinion and I was just trying to add something useful to that discussion.

 

[Nyall]

fact we have no money
fact we are in debt
fact our squad is old as fuck
fact mm is doing his best
fact a lot of fans on this forum forgot the old days and are too used to trophies every year
fact we are rebuilding

Bull Shit - The sale of Eto'o and the pursuing of Kucka begs to differ.
Bull Shit - We do not owe any banks.
True - So why the fuck are we even looking at Forlan or Palacios? Why the fuck are we once again going to be paying a 32 year old, up to 4 million euros a year? Is it really that hard to find a young striker?
Bull Shit - Not even close.. Moratti isn't even trying..
Bull Shit - A lot of fans are looking at the future which looks bleak as fuck
Bull Shit - We have shown no signs of that.. Selling a superstar and replacing him with old dead beats is not rebuilding.. Unless your idea of rebuilding means us becoming significantly worse once the process is done, because certainly we're not becoming better..

 

[Rain]

First of all, sorry for my attitude.

Second of all, you could have responded in the way you just did, and not completely ignore and ridicule the post.

I respect your opinion and I was just trying to add something useful to that discussion.

It was not in my intention to ridicule your post, mate.

Your reply was so concise and straightforward that Imo it gave little space for any other opinion.
It's your opinion and I respect it,That is why I replied with "ok".

I would like nothing more than what You say to be true, but this team needs more than good wishes from Moratti's part, it desperately needs quality players.

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btw @rain that wasnt personal its just a lot harder to get tevez then it sounds i would love him at the club and i hope we can afford a deal for him but its tough

Mate, I have no idea what you're talking about, i was just replying to a post of jmaster

 

[Inter7]

Bull Shit - The sale of Eto'o and the pursuing of Kucka begs to differ.
Bull Shit - We do not owe any banks.
True - So why the fuck are we even looking at Forlan or Palacios? Why the fuck are we once again going to be paying a 32 year old, up to 4 million euros a year? Is it really that hard to find a young striker?
Bull Shit - Not even close.. Moratti isn't even trying..
Bull Shit - A lot of fans are looking at the future which looks bleak as fuck
Bull Shit - We have shown no signs of that.. Selling a superstar and replacing him with old dead beats is not rebuilding.. Unless your idea of rebuilding means us becoming significantly worse once the process is done, because certainly we're not becoming better..

lol so just the forlan signing right bro? cmon young players: alvarez, castanaigos, naga, rano, were trying to get kucka

everyone is pissed off about etto but forlan is cheap as fuck it goes into we need to fix the fucking budget

secondly on the whole kucka thing we are giving half of viviano so we would only pay like 4mil for the other half idk if those are the exact details on the deal but i doubt you know them either

so if the future looks bleak you rebuild no team in history can win every year

 

[Doffy]

fact a lot of fans on this forum forgot the old days and are too used to trophies every year

the old days you mean the time we played with likes of recoba, baggio, zamorano? the times when we had vieri and ronaldo as strikepair. we even had fucking roberto carlos playing for our team.
it was awesome, i loved those days, those where the times i fell in love with inter. its not about the trophies its about the style of footbal, the to the imagination speaking players we had back then, the craziest goals...

inter back then and the way its going now is uncomparable imo.

back then we had the cashflow so inter was much more likeable. and i wonder how much 'real fans' will stay to follow this team as hardcore then as they doing now, especially when we are in decline. its easy right now after they won the tripleta and stuff but a drought of 3 - 4 years... a lot of hypocrites if you ask me...

 

[Nyall]

lol so just the forlan signing right bro? cmon young players: alvarez, castanaigos, naga, rano, were trying to get kucka

Compare our "youth policy" to that of United's.. They won't even touch a 30 year old with a 10 foot ski poll, opting to use their own youngsters instead.. Us on the other hand do the exact opposite.. And just because we buy youngsters all of which are going to head straight to our bench and stands, doesn't change the "fact" you yourself wrote.. You said we are old as fuck, complaining about, yet you are now justifying the fact that we are going to buy a 32 year old..

everyone is pissed off about etto but forlan is cheap as fuck it goes into we need to fix the fucking budget

This hardly fixes our budget or even makes a dent.. According to the rumored figures we will be saving what 35 million euros or so over the next years from this deal.. Minus all the bonuses and quality Eto'o has over Forlan..

secondly on the whole kucka thing we are giving half of viviano so we would only pay like 4mil for the other half idk if those are the exact details on the deal but i doubt you know them either

Fantastic! Half of Viviano cost us 4.1 million euros.. So we're going to spend 8.1 million euros for half of a Kucka blvious: and 5 million on a 32 year old.. 13.1 million euros or Kucka + Forlan + 8 million euros = Eto'o..

so if the future looks bleak you rebuild no team in history can win every year

They say we are rebuilding, but so far this summer, we've rarely show that, except when we constantly use the FFP as an excuse to not buy a young player..

 

[Inter7]

we arent united we dont have the team they have now we are much older but where are we gonna find a young striker with class to fill the void left from etto all while balancing the book... you wont..

if we run with the attitude of that doesnt save enough so fuck it we go deeper in the shits and i enjoy watching inter so its good we are starting to try to balance it now even tho this should have been happening before

yes but that is two players plus one more (for 8mil) who knows maybe kucka will be fucking incredible maybe he will suck nuts its better to get these new guys then not get anyone and have eto. id just like to say no doubting his abilities top 5 forwards in the world but depth is important if he gets injured then what we didnt buy kukca and forlan and whoever else we can buy now so we would be fucked

buying young players and putting them with old experienced players while trying to balance the books and getting forlan to make us still somewhat competitive are signs of it imo

 

[DIN011]

we arent united we dont have the team they have now we are much older but where are we gonna find a young striker with class to fill the void left from etto all while balancing the book... you wont..

if we run with the attitude of that doesnt save enough so fuck it we go deeper in the shits and i enjoy watching inter so its good we are starting to try to balance it now even tho this should have been happening before

yes but that is two players plus one more (for 8mil) who knows maybe kucka will be fucking incredible maybe he will suck nuts its better to get these new guys then not get anyone and have eto. id just like to say no doubting his abilities top 5 forwards in the world but depth is important if he gets injured then what we didnt buy kukca and forlan and whoever else we can buy now so we would be fucked

buying young players and putting them with old experienced players while trying to balance the books and getting forlan to make us still somewhat competitive are signs of it imo

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[Pimpin]

this thread is for tevez ffs ..

 

[Nyall]

we arent united we dont have the team they have now we are much older but where are we gonna find a young striker with class to fill the void left from etto all while balancing the book... you wont..

I am not a scout who has sources or is paid to find players young players around the world.. Perhaps maybe, just maybe, we could task those who are paid to find young talents all over the world.. But that's ridiculous right?

if we run with the attitude of that doesnt save enough so fuck it we go deeper in the shits and i enjoy watching inter so its good we are starting to try to balance it now even tho this should have been happening before

Save for what? You do realize that us preparing for this FFP will be in complete vain, if we don't fucking make the Champions League, right? Also, I'd hardly call what we're doing saving.. This summer will be done in less than 4 days and we'll have nothing but a significantly weaker squad a a couple million euros worth of "savings" to show for it.. Depth is useless, if the depth is shit. Biabiany was considered depth last season..

yes but that is two players plus one more (for 8mil) who knows maybe kucka will be fucking incredible maybe he will suck nuts its better to get these new guys then not get anyone and have eto. id just like to say no doubting his abilities top 5 forwards in the world but depth is important if he gets injured then what we didnt buy kukca and forlan and whoever else we can buy now so we would be fucked

Dude, quantity will never be better than quality! And don't ever, ever, ever try to defend the notion of otherwise.. If we want depth, fuck signing players, we should simply use our Primavera..

buying young players and putting them with old experienced players while trying to balance the books and getting forlan to make us still somewhat competitive are signs of it imo

Exactly what is the point of rebuilding if we end up worse than before?

 

[Inter7]

no and neither am i but if you are saying there is better out their we can afford let me know and ill agree with you bro

but we did save euros thats the point wether its one million or more thats what we have to do its not gonna happen overnight

here is where it gets tough both sides of the argument are plausible depth is very important in soccer but quality depth is different then regular depth how many team can afford quality depth aka the player that goes off gets replaced with one at the same level... man city thats it kucka is a proven serie a player hes not a top player but hes great for depth like i said we kept eto instead and he gets a season long injury then what!!!!! we will be literally fucked maybe he doesnt have a great season he gets into a slump same shit you need depth thats one of the biggest differences from top teams and mid table teams

because rebuilding is process no team just gets better and better and better and better

i understand everything you are saying and yea i would rather not have forlan or polacio or whatever the fuck his name is but as of right now this is whats best for inter as a club

 

[Handoyo]

Great posts Nyall! :star:

 

[Choppin Onions]

Sooooooo......... any news on Tevez?

 

[Mad Biscione]

I lost all hope

 

[KevinB]

I hope that MM's plan was to ditch Eto'o and Pandev because of their salaries in order to get Tevez. C'mon MM !

 

[Johnny Ludlow]

Frankly, I don't think Nyall is offering much here. Nothing one can't read here every day. All I can see is overtly negative attitude that is called being realistic around here, and empty phrases about quality and quantity. Don't you think, Nyall, that we do all we can to stay truly competitive? It's not some abstract decision between quality and quantity. In fact, we need both. Thus we have to take risks; Castaignos, Coutinho, Obi, Nagatomo, Jonathan and Alvarez are in line with the only strategy we can stay on top with. That is, finding talent with a tight budget.

 

[Edward]

Frankly, I don't think Nyall is offering much here. Nothing one can't read here every day. All I can see is overtly negative attitude that is called being realistic around here, and empty phrases about quality and quantity. Don't you think, Nyall, that we do all we can to stay truly competitive? It's not some abstract decision between quality and quantity. In fact, we need both. Thus we have to take risks; Castaignos, Coutinho, Obi, Nagatomo, Jonathan and Alvarez are in line with the only strategy we can stay on top with. That is, finding talent with a tight budget.

but doing things like pay 12m for alvarez and half of kucka making him 15m overall do not fall into a "tight budget" way of doing things. with decisions like that we either don't have a tight budget or we are making bad decisions on players we buy

 

[Johnny Ludlow]

Alvarez could turn out to be a bargain or total waste of money. Too early to judge. Our board obviously tried to make a good signing for relatively good price; you must admit that 12m isn't all that huge figure nowadays. About Kucka, no deal have been made, right?

 

[JJM]

Fine del sogno Tevez? Mancini: "La sua famiglia è qui, ora può restare"

Mancini has once again ruled out Tevez leaving and said his family joined him in Manchester.

Bye bye Tevez

 

[CityFanInPeace]

Looks like this saga is over

Inter Milan's proposed Carlos Tevez swap deal for Wesley Sneijder fails to tempt Manchester City

Manchester City have rejected a renewed attempt by Inter Milan to swap Wesley Sneijder for Carlos Tévez with Roberto Mancini revealing that the Argentine forward is ready to stay at the club after moving his family from Buenos Aires to Manchester.

Manchester City, who could hand £23 million signing Samir Nasri a debut at Tottenham on Sunday, were approached by Inter officials 10 days ago as the Italians attempted to capitalise on the delay in completing Nasri's move from Arsenal by offering Sneijder in exchange for Tévez.

While neighbours Manchester United have been engaged in a lengthy pursuit of Sneijder, City rejected the chance to sign the £35 million-rated Dutch midfielder.

Inter's offer underlines the widely-held perception that they are keen to cash in on Sneijder, but it is understood that United will not renew their interest ahead of Wednesday's transfer deadline unless the player drastically reduces his salary demands.

Tévez's decision to move his family to Manchester is regarded as significant by City, however, due to his repeated insistence that his attempt to leave the club was in order to be closer to his two daughters.

And Mancini believes the 27 year-old can now look forward to bolstering City's attempt to win the Premier League. "For Carlos, it has always been about family reasons, but his family is here now," Mancini said. "If his family is here, I think he can stay.

"This is a good moment for this club because Carlos is one of the best players that we have. If Carlos stays, we have four strikers and we can use Nasri like a midfielder. We can choose between these players if we have four strikers. It is better."

Mancini believes the acquisitions of Nasri and Sergio Agüero will help convince Tévez to remain for at least one more year. "I think that for a player who sees these good players arriving in this good team, after we won the FA Cup last year, he can think maybe we will win a title this year."

Nasri, meanwhile, insists that the pursuit of glory is his sole motivation for moving. "Money is not a factor," Nasri said. "People can think what they like. It was a choice about football and we will see that at the end of the season when we lift a trophy and talk about my choice again.

"People who talk about money will see that they are wrong. Money does not buy happiness, that's for sure. I am 24 and everyone says I am a good player, but I haven't won anything.

''I loved my time with Arsenal but I have never won anything with them. Sometimes you have to bring in big players to win. Arsenal always relied on experienced players, but since they moved to the Emirates Stadium, their transfer policy has been a little bit different."

Despite being urged by France team-mate Patrice Evra to join United, Nasri insists he made the right choice. "Patrice likes to tease people. He likes to make jokes, it's fine, and we will see about it at the end.

"At City, I want to be part of history and win titles over the next few years. It is a bigger achievement if we can do it (than United) and I prefer to be part of history than just another player."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-Sneijder-fails-to-tempt-Manchester-City.html


I honestly have no idea what you're going to do for a striker with Eto'o gone. Moratti is really screwing Inter into the ground. Tevez was available and would have torn apart Serie A.