Chelsea - Inter (16 Mar 10)

[Besnik]

I think Pandev can dribble well.

Yes he can.

But in the first leg he was so poor.. almost invisible the whole minutes that he played since he was included in the match.. but I was expecting more from him since I belive that he has enough experience to play in the CL. But not so he didn't played well in the first leg, I wouldn't start him in the second leg, he would be nice sub I think.

Our partnership in the attack would be good with Milito - Eto'o, yes I know that Eto'o is in the horrible form right now, but his SHOT can be gold for us, he may finish the match just for 2-3 minutes, like he did against ManUtd last year..

I belive in his experience in CL, so I'm gonna belive him starting formation in the second leg against Chelski, so I hope that he'll prove us with his great performance.

If and in the second leg wouldn't function Eto'o, then I would include firstly Balotelli in his place, then and Pandev so maybe we can improve our attack with these additions in the formation.

 

[Dario]

They were missing important players??? We didn't have Sneijder. Barcelona have the quality to fill in for Messi and Ibrahimovic, but our midfield without Sneijder gets us exactly what we saw against Barcelona, nothing!


I know we shouldn't care about who is on the field in 2 weeks, but you cannot deny that seeing Hilario, Malouda, Ivanovic, Mikel would be better than seeing Cech, Cole, Bosingwa, Essien....

Agreed, thats like us having Toldo, Cordoba, Motta (as solo DM), Quaresma on the start up (or SOMTHING like that), if that was the case, we'd be having a fit right now :doh: and dont lie and say you wouldnt lol...

 

[pazzainteramala]

anyone know if cech will be back

 

[dynasty27]

cesar - maicon, lucio, samuel, santon - motta/stanko, cambiasso, zanetti, sneijder - balotelli, milito
would be my formation.

 

[Saihan]

cesar - maicon, lucio, samuel, santon - motta/stanko, cambiasso, zanetti, sneijder - balotelli, milito
would be my formation.

id rather have eto'o onrather than balo... ilike balo as a 2nd half sub where he can just burst out with all that drive hehas.. rather than slumping throughout 2nd half.. he can change the game when he gets subbed in 2nd half.

 

[tinoi]

They were missing important players??? We didn't have Sneijder. Barcelona have the quality to fill in for Messi and Ibrahimovic, but our midfield without Sneijder gets us exactly what we saw against Barcelona, nothing!


I know we shouldn't care about who is on the field in 2 weeks, but you cannot deny that seeing Hilario, Malouda, Ivanovic, Mikel would be better than seeing Cech, Cole, Bosingwa, Essien....

Vito is 1000% bang on there.

No-one can deny - not even Inter players themselves will deny - that it gives them extra confidence when coming up against weaker opponents. Even Mou came out and says it gives Inter an advantage if Cech doesn't play. It is only normal to think that. I believe vs Barca it was different because they have more than 5 or 6 players that can harm you at any given time, on the other hand i don't think chelsea do.

P.S. is cech or essien gonna make it? Essien hasn't kicked a ball since Mid-Jan so i'm thinking surely he won't be match fit?

 

[Hammoudi]

I think Pandev can dribble well.

Yes he can, but he is a bit slow. In fact his dribbling is better than Balotelli's, but Balotelli can advance the ball faster, not to mention his ball-holding abilities.

That's how Man city triumphed over Chelsea last weekend.

 

[interista12]

I think that Mou, Might surprise us by playing with 3 strikers (maybe eto'o and balloteli a bit more like attacing wingers)... This might get us an early goal and its GAME OVER 4 chelsea...
My formation (assuming that Chivu won't make it):
J.Cesar; Maicon,Lucio,Samuel,Zanetti;Cambiasso, Stankovic; Sneijder, Balloteli, Eto'o; Milito...

 

[Dario]

i think if we play with more midfielders then we have a good chance to take control of the game. like man-u did last year, the played a 4-5-1 formation, the 5 midfielders were in a V shape.. and they RAPED us in the midfield, couldnt get the ball off them. If anyone could agree? :rollani:

 

[darsez]

i think if we play with more midfielders then we have a good chance to take control of the game. like man-u did last year, the played a 4-5-1 formation, the 5 midfielders were in a V shape.. and they RAPED us in the midfield, couldnt get the ball off them. If anyone could agree? :rollani:

We might not be very good at keeping possession though. Is there a game where we have 60%+ possession? I think we always have close to 40%.

 

[skeet]

4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 would be suicide in a situation like this, a 4 or 5 man inter midfield can't get more than 50% possession over a 3 man chelsea midfield, if we play sneijder cambiasso and motta/muntari/stankovic as the only midfielders in this game we would be schooled

anyone hoping that we will play 4-2-3-1 or a similar attacking formation will be disappointed, either before the game starts or after it has finished

 

[dynasty27]

id rather have eto'o onrather than balo... ilike balo as a 2nd half sub where he can just burst out with all that drive hehas.. rather than slumping throughout 2nd half.. he can change the game when he gets subbed in 2nd half.

i just noticed that balotelli has convinced as a sub only 3 times this season (twice against parma and the other one against chelsea). apart from that he really has played well mostly when he has started.

 

[Pajo]

i don't care who we play with, i just wanna win ffs !!

 

[vitomins]

4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 would be suicide in a situation like this, a 4 or 5 man inter midfield can't get more than 50% possession over a 3 man chelsea midfield, if we play sneijder cambiasso and motta/muntari/stankovic as the only midfielders in this game we would be schooled

anyone hoping that we will play 4-2-3-1 or a similar attacking formation will be disappointed, either before the game starts or after it has finished

Well the majority of their chances and the goal they scored came against the 4-3-1-2, so I am not so sure we can say that we are guaranteed to be better defensively with the 4-3-1-2. On paper, it should work that way, but if everything were based on paper, we wouldn't have struggled in CL as much as we have in the past.

It's hard to base the 4-2-3-1 on our last game, because we had a midfielder as a center back, and I feel that the chemistry is very string between Lucio and Samuel, that they know how to move based on each others movements. When you take a pair that work so well defensively and break it up, it not only effects Motta, who is a midfielder playing out of position, but it also throws Lucio off.

If we played Maicon-Lucio-Samuel-Zanetti(Santon) at the back against Udinese, I can bet that the early goal they scored would have never happened.

I am not saying we should definitely not use the 4-3-1-2, I am just saying that Chelsea had more opportunities and scored a goal when we were in that formation. Although our chances to score lessened a bit when we switched to the 4-2-3-1, I feel that Chelsea's chances lessened as well.

Either way, we really need the match to pan out like it did in the first leg. We cannot concede early and if it is possible, we must bury any early chnaces we get. I feel the reason we won that match against Chelsea, was because we had quick goals. One inside the first 5 minutes, and then 1 inside 5 minutes of their equalizer.

The quicker we can deflate Chelsea, the better!

 

[skeet]

Well the majority of their chances and the goal they scored came against the 4-3-1-2, so I am not so sure we can say that we are guaranteed to be better defensively with the 4-3-1-2. On paper, it should work that way, but if everything were based on paper, we wouldn't have struggled in CL as much as we have in the past.

It's hard to base the 4-2-3-1 on our last game, because we had a midfielder as a center back, and I feel that the chemistry is very string between Lucio and Samuel, that they know how to move based on each others movements. When you take a pair that work so well defensively and break it up, it not only effects Motta, who is a midfielder playing out of position, but it also throws Lucio off.

If we played Maicon-Lucio-Samuel-Zanetti(Santon) at the back against Udinese, I can bet that the early goal they scored would have never happened.

I am not saying we should definitely not use the 4-3-1-2, I am just saying that Chelsea had more opportunities and scored a goal when we were in that formation. Although our chances to score lessened a bit when we switched to the 4-2-3-1, I feel that Chelsea's chances lessened as well.

Either way, we really need the match to pan out like it did in the first leg. We cannot concede early and if it is possible, we must bury any early chnaces we get. I feel the reason we won that match against Chelsea, was because we had quick goals. One inside the first 5 minutes, and then 1 inside 5 minutes of their equalizer.

The quicker we can deflate Chelsea, the better!

the reason chelsea didn't create chances after we switched to 4-2-3-1 was because mourinho switched formations after cambiasso's goal which completely took the wind out of chelsea's sails

i wasn't basing the formation on our last game, we were missing all but 1 defender and half of our midfield, i don't think we should use it because we would be playing right into chelsea's hands because they have fast wingers and midfielders who can maintain possession

parking the bus should be the order of the day and early goals in this game will be the key, the longer the game goes on scoreless the more confident our players get, so scoring first should take a back seat to not conceding first

 

[vitomins]

the reason chelsea didn't create chances after we switched to 4-2-3-1 was because mourinho switched formations after cambiasso's goal which completely took the wind out of chelsea's sails

i wasn't basing the formation on our last game, we were missing all but 1 defender and half of our midfield, i don't think we should use it because we would be playing right into chelsea's hands because they have fast wingers and midfielders who can maintain possession

parking the bus should be the order of the day and early goals in this game will be the key, the longer the game goes on scoreless the more confident our players get, so scoring first should take a back seat to not conceding first

This is the exact strategy we had going into Barcelona...

 

[rockball]

The longer the game goes on scoreless, the more tense we will get. It would also mean that a late goal for Chelsea would do the trick. We definitely need to score in this game. Their defence hasn't looked the strongest recently. I see no reason why we shouldn't go for that goal.

 

[vitomins]

The longer the game goes on scoreless, the more tense we will get. It would also mean that a late goal for Chelsea would do the trick. We definitely need to score in this game. Their defence hasn't looked the strongest recently. I see no reason why we shouldn't go for that goal.

:thumbsup: Seems to make much more sense to me than parking the bus from the first minute...

 

[n4l]

This is the exact strategy we had going into Barcelona...

and this means what?

your argument with me before the first leg was that we used 4-3-1-2 for years in the CL, didn't win a game and couldn't score a single goal, thus, we shouldn't use it anymore..

consequently, we played 4-3-1-2 for 57min against Chelsea, scored 2 goals and won the game...



in this game, i would also start with 4-3-1-2...
i won't "park the bus" but i certainly will be defending deep...

the first 20minutes of this game are crucial and our priorities should be (in order):

(1) do not concede within the first 20min
(2) do not get any red cards within the first 20min
(3) score a goal within the first 20min

from there, we have the right platform and can make the necessary adjustments (offensive or defensive) from the 4-3-1-2 with only 1 sub; and reserve the other 2 subs in the event we have an injury or need to switch back (ex. we score early and go defensive, then chelsea score and we need to go back to offense)

 

[vitomins]

(1) do not concede within the first 20min
(2) do not get any red cards within the first 20min
(3) score a goal within the first 20min

This was not the order of our priorities in the first leg, and that is why we won. If we went in thinking "we cannot concede, we cannot concede", we would not have scored so early.

It is fine to use the 4-3-1-2, but if we have the mindset of defense - 80%, offense 20% from the start of the match, Chelsea will barrage us and may even pop in an early goal like Rubin, Dynamo and Barcelona did.

I think we should approach this match as if we tied 0-0 in the first leg, meaning if we want to go through, we have to score. I have always felt that playing for a draw is the most unsafe way to approach a match...