Frank de Boer

[.h.]

Yeah browha,you just want to get rid of FdB and have no clue who to get as a replacement(pretense it ain't your job) and how he would work out, just hoping he does.. great planning there, GG buddy,GG

yes, because its not fucking football manager, and any fan who thinks they can sit there and provide an in depth analysis of how a manager is going to run the team as if they know everything about the manager behind the scenes is so stuck up their own arse they need to promptly unfuck themselves.

The hiring process involves contacting dozens of candidates, interviewing them, getting them to present on their ideas of the team, speaking to past players managed by them....

So, yeah, I'm not going to suggest a replacement for FDB, because I'm not arrogant enough to think I can do the job of what a multi-hundred-thousand euro per year director of sport does. If you're arrogant enough to think you can, then go for it.

 

[KevinB]

Me when I see browa rant in this thread and DARiO in the Icardi one

Now, seriously. The results haven't been good, and yes without the Jube victory, Frank would be fired for sure. But is this the solution? No.

Despite the fucked up results, I've seen us play far better football than we have in the last 3-4 years. Then again, the arguments of us having better footballers is also correct, but then again, Mancio had better footballers than Mazzarri, yet we still hosted shitfest after shitfest. Now we clearly see an improvement of playstyle. The defense is just so very much fucked. Without Handanovic or Julio César, we would swallow so many goals, then people have the balls for 'praising' the defense whereas they just should praise the immense work these keepers do. Just look at the Europa League games of last season when Carrizo was the keeper

Let's just assume that De Boer gets fired and some 'poor' fucker gets the seat now. And once again the results are bad, we will again ask for time for the coach, give him till the end of the season and then see.

Step 1: Hire coach
Step 2: Bad results -> give him time
Step 3: Fire coach
Step 4: Hire new coach with basicly no introduction time, preseason, ...
Step 5: Bad results again
Step 6: Give new coach time and/or Fire him
Step 7: See Step 1

And so goes it on and on. Now De Boer isn't a bad coach, he has clear ideas but if the core of your team is beyond retarded then well.. Just give him time, he's not a Mancio, nor a Mazzarri.

 

[.h.]

How much time do you want to give him?

Seriously?

We wait until Jan? And if we're in the bottom 5 in November? Or December?


I absolutely agree he deserves time. But what other fucking club do you sign a new manager, and let him have shitty results for 6 months? Even at places like Tottenham where they had to give their manager time, they did a REASONABLE JOB in the first period.


His win ratio is the WORST WE'VE HAD since Gasperini! And who knows who since before that!?

 

[Harpsabu]

Me when I see browa rant in this thread and DARiO in the Icardi one

Now, seriously. The results haven't been good, and yes without the Jube victory, Frank would be fired for sure. But is this the solution? No.

Despite the fucked up results, I've seen us play far better football than we have in the last 3-4 years. Then again, the arguments of us having better footballers is also correct, but then again, Mancio had better footballers than Mazzarri, yet we still hosted shitfest after shitfest. Now we clearly see an improvement of playstyle. The defense is just so very much fucked. Without Handanovic or Julio César, we would swallow so many goals, then people have the balls for 'praising' the defense whereas they just should praise the immense work these keepers do. Just look at the Europa League games of last season when Carrizo was the keeper

Let's just assume that De Boer gets fired and some 'poor' fucker gets the seat now. And once again the results are bad, we will again ask for time for the coach, give him till the end of the season and then see.

Step 1: Hire coach
Step 2: Bad results -> give him time
Step 3: Fire coach
Step 4: Hire new coach with basicly no introduction time, preseason, ...
Step 5: Bad results again
Step 6: Give new coach time and/or Fire him
Step 7: See Step 1

And so goes it on and on. Now De Boer isn't a bad coach, he has clear ideas but if the core of your team is beyond retarded then well.. Just give him time, he's not a Mancio, nor a Mazzarri.

what have we done better?? We've kept the ball a bit better. How many clear chance goal scoring opportunities have we created? we keep the ball then at the final third we done have a clue, usually end up putting in a cross. There is a style of play yes, but not a good one, so far.

Also, this core is not beyond retarded. jesus, just look at our first 11. its amazing!

I dont want to fire FDB, yet, but im seriously running out of patience. If we had of created 4 or 5 clear chances at the weekend and got hit on the counter ok. but we did nothing! Honestly, I'd give him 5 more games. Unless there is an improvement by then, Cya FDB

 

[Niarc]

just curious question, is de boer has italian assistant? like bergomi before he get fired by mancini?

 

[ElDuccio]

Are you serious?!!! Mancini was shit and his tactics were 11 people behind the ball and hoping someone to score. He gave us the most creative midfield ever - Melo - Medel - KOndogbia. Lajijc mediocre?! Ljajic is better than Mancini's wet dream - Eder, but he was banished because of Mancini. The matter of fact is that the only good player brought up here from Mancini is Perisic. All of his other wishes are mediocre - Melo, Eder, KOndogbia, Erkin. Shaquiri and Santon also came after his request but soon after then they were benched with no reason?!

Maybe yes but there was still team spirit and they fighted every game, even if someone Handanovic saved our ass. But still not like against Cagliari were we got dominanted by them. Dominated by a Serie B team!! Of course after January we loosed a lot of games but like i said if we already had Banega and Candreva, it would be much better and maybe we dont loosed the motivation to continue winning.

Mancini only buyed without giving up to much money. Eder was not in form. Kondogbia and Eder mediocre? Wtf??? Shaqiri had hes story. But youre lovely and much better Coach, De Boer, already has benched 60 milions in 2 weeks. At last Shaqiri was only on loan.

And if you like our new players (How you dont, we have basicly the best Team in italy after juve) then you also have to say thanks to Mancini because Banega specialy Candreva was buyed because of him!

 

[firmino]

just curious question, is de boer has italian assistant? like bergomi before he get fired by mancini?

this is the staff page, in English: http://www.inter.it/en/staff

all of these people, the one that certainly knows both Italian and Dutch is Michele Santoni, who is Italian, has a Dutch mother and worked for five years in the Netherlands.

 

[Wings]

How much time do you want to give him?

Seriously?

We wait until Jan? And if we're in the bottom 5 in November? Or December?


I absolutely agree he deserves time. But what other fucking club do you sign a new manager, and let him have shitty results for 6 months? Even at places like Tottenham where they had to give their manager time, they did a REASONABLE JOB in the first period.


His win ratio is the WORST WE'VE HAD since Gasperini! And who knows who since before that!?

I assume when you refer to Tottenham, you're referring to how Pochettino took 11 points in his first 8 PL games.

You keep talking about these extreme hypotheticals. If we are still 11th come January. If we end up in bottom five. And yes, if any of those happen FdB needs to go. No question. But those haven't happened yet. Why act like they have? You're taking a fairly small sample size of games and extrapolating massively.

 

[.h.]

And so are the people who are assuming he will come good.

'He sucks now but will come good' is much more of an extrapolation than 'He sucks now and will remain bad'

 

[KevinB]

what have we done better?? We've kept the ball a bit better. How many clear chance goal scoring opportunities have we created? we keep the ball then at the final third we done have a clue, usually end up putting in a cross. There is a style of play yes, but not a good one, so far.

Also, this core is not beyond retarded. jesus, just look at our first 11. its amazing!

I dont want to fire FDB, yet, but im seriously running out of patience. If we had of created 4 or 5 clear chances at the weekend and got hit on the counter ok. but we did nothing! Honestly, I'd give him 5 more games. Unless there is an improvement by then, Cya FDB

We keep the ball better, play better together, aren't completely fucking everything up. Yes the Cagliari game and the Europa ones were absolutely terrible, but all the other ones were decent. Or would you rather have the Mancio-let's defend the 0-1 loss- method?

The idea is there, now the players have to follow. And like I said, the core is retarded. The fullbacks, Murillo/Rano, Kondogbia, Medel (despite being not so horrible, his defensive positioning is ), Candreva with his constant crossing, Icardi (when he doesn't score, he contributes shit), Eder.

I'd just give De Boer time till new year IF things are still bad like they are now. For same matter we are praising De Boer when we win 5 games in a row by next months.

 

[CoolMan44]

Maybe yes but there was still team spirit and they fighted every game, even if someone Handanovic saved our ass. But still not like against Cagliari were we got dominanted by them. Dominated by a Serie B team!! Of course after January we loosed a lot of games but like i said if we already had Banega and Candreva, it would be much better and maybe we dont loosed the motivation to continue winning.

Mancini only buyed without giving up to much money. Eder was not in form. Kondogbia and Eder mediocre? Wtf??? Shaqiri had hes story. But youre lovely and much better Coach, De Boer, already has benched 60 milions in 2 weeks. At last Shaqiri was only on loan.

And if you like our new players (How you dont, we have basicly the best Team in italy after juve) then you also have to say thanks to Mancini because Banega specialy Candreva was buyed because of him!

Are you saying Mancini times were not like against Cagliari where we got dominated? With Mancini, we were dominated by almost every team. The only match I remember us dominating was perhaps against Sassuolo where we missed dozens of changes.

With Mancini, we even managed to defend at home against a Carpi that had 10 men, who managed to equalize in the last minute, that was even worse than Cagliari as Carpi are a much worse team. Don't forget, Carpi also dominated us in the first match.

I do agree that results right now are crap and should be better.

However, one difference I notice between De Boer and Mancini is that currently we at least try to take the game to our opponents. Can there be improvements in the attacking phase? For sure, I think we rely too much on crosses. However, with Mancini we would never try to take the game to the opponent, even if that opponent was Carpi or Chievo. We would sit back against almost every team, and even then concede chances throughout the game.

Why is it an issue that De Boer is benching Kondogbia? I like Kondogbia and I want him to do well, but he has been quite disappointing to the extend that I don't think he offers more than Medel. De Boer has also given more chances to Gnoukouri than Mancini has all of last season. Eder is mediocre, and has been for the past year, not sure why that's a surprise. Unfortunately he just doesn't seem to fit in with this team. I assume that the 60 million on the bench refers to Gabriel Barbosa. Let's not forget he wasn't available for the first 4 matches and probably doesn't have good fitness levels. He probably should have come on last match though instead of Eder, who really doesn't offer us anything.

I refuse to believe Banega was bought because of Mancini and I would honestly see Mancini benching him. From our current 3 midfield starters (Medel, Joao Mario, and Banega), there is no way Mancini would leave out both Melo and Kondogbia, so one of them would most likely be in the place of Banega/Joao Mario, if we are thinking of a Mancini team.

 

[Wings]

And so are the people who are assuming he will come good.

'He sucks now but will come good' is much more of an extrapolation than 'He sucks now and will remain bad'

But that's not what I'm arguing. Your argument is results are bad and will stay bad. I'm arguing that it's too early to tell and that you're basing your assessment entirely off results rather than how well we play.

 

[JJM]

FdB is absolutely not the reason for this mess...It's the mgmt/club who thought replacing coach 8 August is a good idea
We are behind because of that,anyone else thinking otherwise,well sorry you know very little about the sport then
He should have been brought in back in June...not 2 weeks before the start of the campionato ffs,he had no time for preseason
And yes preseason is crucial to get the squad behind your ideas, to understand them and get ready for a marathon,if you say otherwise you know very little...
De Boer is nothing like Mancini or Mazzarri or...
I can see his ideas in rough scale and they intrigue me,because I can see a promising atractive football behind that mess we are currently still at
Unfortunately for him the players are not learning those plans very fast because of also said reasons...
Also this is not a squad build for FdB in principle tbh....it was meant for Mancini who fucked us over
Deciding in August he had enough...turd
What a cunt of a person
Yes the players are not bad but maybe not the players FdB would need
Ok he got Mario and Gabigol but the defenders are not good at what he wants
Maybe he needs to be more flexible to what he has though
However no coach is rly that flexible tbh
Mancini finished 8th when he took over in November...
It's never a good idea to change coach mid season,especially at Inter when things are more critical in other departments,like the leadership
The mgmt has no clear ideas!
Sense of direction is lacking since... forever
We have no technical director,Inter that really understands football...
JZ is too diplomatic...
Ausilio is just a glorified mercato guy
We have no one rly leading the organization
ET and Bolingbroke know shit about the game
Who is FdB's supervisor?!
Ausilio?! He never played the game
JZ?! doing a poor job if he is
Who?! i dunno tbh,I rly don't!

We need a strong link between the technical stafg and the mgmt
There is no one competent here!

 

[uzhang]

SH
CA JM GM DS
AC JM EB IP
GB SJ

Pls Do it., Fuc de bor





Sent from my HTC One_E8 dual sim using Tapatalk

 

[ElDuccio]

Are you saying Mancini times were not like against Cagliari where we got dominated? With Mancini, we were dominated by almost every team. The only match I remember us dominating was perhaps against Sassuolo where we missed dozens of changes.

With Mancini, we even managed to defend at home against a Carpi that had 10 men, who managed to equalize in the last minute, that was even worse than Cagliari as Carpi are a much worse team. Don't forget, Carpi also dominated us in the first match.

I do agree that results right now are crap and should be better.

However, one difference I notice between De Boer and Mancini is that currently we at least try to take the game to our opponents. Can there be improvements in the attacking phase? For sure, I think we rely too much on crosses. However, with Mancini we would never try to take the game to the opponent, even if that opponent was Carpi or Chievo. We would sit back against almost every team, and even then concede chances throughout the game.

Why is it an issue that De Boer is benching Kondogbia? I like Kondogbia and I want him to do well, but he has been quite disappointing to the extend that I don't think he offers more than Medel. De Boer has also given more chances to Gnoukouri than Mancini has all of last season. Eder is mediocre, and has been for the past year, not sure why that's a surprise. Unfortunately he just doesn't seem to fit in with this team. I assume that the 60 million on the bench refers to Gabriel Barbosa. Let's not forget he wasn't available for the first 4 matches and probably doesn't have good fitness levels. He probably should have come on last match though instead of Eder, who really doesn't offer us anything.

I refuse to believe Banega was bought because of Mancini and I would honestly see Mancini benching him. From our current 3 midfield starters (Medel, Joao Mario, and Banega), there is no way Mancini would leave out both Melo and Kondogbia, so one of them would most likely be in the place of Banega/Joao Mario, if we are thinking of a Mancini team.

Most of your examples are from Jan - May. My post was talking about the first months were we really did good. After that, everyone loosed motivation. And im saying with a better team like from this year, we would made better after January. Maybe even first place with some points away from Juve and Napoli.

With 60 Milions i mean Brozo and Kondo who got banned for nothing. If a bad game is the problem then Icardi should be gived gratis to Napoli, now.

 

[Harpsabu]

We keep the ball better, play better together, aren't completely fucking everything up. Yes the Cagliari game and the Europa ones were absolutely terrible, but all the other ones were decent. Or would you rather have the Mancio-let's defend the 0-1 loss- method?

The idea is there, now the players have to follow. And like I said, the core is retarded. The fullbacks, Murillo/Rano, Kondogbia, Medel (despite being not so horrible, his defensive positioning is ), Candreva with his constant crossing, Icardi (when he doesn't score, he contributes shit), Eder.

I'd just give De Boer time till new year IF things are still bad like they are now. For same matter we are praising De Boer when we win 5 games in a row by next months.

I'd rather have wins or at least decent performances. And its not as if we're improving. Had it not been for Handa and Salahs shit finishing Roma would have destroyed us! Chievo was a shit show. Bologna also. We've kept the ball but can't do anything. Interesting you highlight Candrevas crossing. Can't you see that that is FDB's game plan. Get crosses in. He wants to play on the wings and get crosses in. So what you've complained about is an FDB tactic.

So are you telling me, if we kept up FDB type of form, you'd want him to the new year? As i said, if we were creating lots of chances i'd be fine with with it, but we aren't! He doesn't deserve to the new year at this rate.

 

[Joker]

Most of your examples are from Jan - May. My post was talking about the first months were we really lucky.

fixed.

 

[tanorini]

De Boer meets the squad: "It's time to run and play, who doesn't want to remain can ask to leave in january"

Idk I am also observing some tension between the players in the field, like when persic argues with icardi about his movement inside the box. They don't seem united at all especially at matches vs smaller teams, they only become united in big matches. very weird mentality.

 

[CoolMan44]

Most of your examples are from Jan - May. My post was talking about the first months were we really did good. After that, everyone loosed motivation. And im saying with a better team like from this year, we would made better after January. Maybe even first place with some points away from Juve and Napoli.

With 60 Milions i mean Brozo and Kondo who got banned for nothing. If a bad game is the problem then Icardi should be gived gratis to Napoli, now.

In the first months we were really lucky with the majority of games as well. As an example against both Chievo and Verona, we had about one shot on target and won both of those games 1-0. The second game against Carpi, they dominated us for large parts of the game. In terms of results, yes we were really good, but everyone felt the luck would run out and we'd start losing the games, which is exactly what happened from January onwards.

It's not just that we lost motivation, you don't lose motivation after being 1st on the table, but more of that we were playing the exact same at the beginning, except Handanovic wasn't making super-human saves at that point, so we saw the true nature of our team. I don't think our actual game-play was any different in the 2 halves of the season.

 

[DaPeaceDisturber]

He's a great coach. With him we're seeing a whole new, reborn Inter. Some of you may dissagree with me because of the recent bad results but i have faith in him.