Gabriel 'Gabigol' Barbosa

[diamen]

I would rather take Barbosa back than sell him for "well below 22m". I have gut feeling that Flameno is already in touch with european clubs for selling Barbosa right away after his redemption.

Flamengo have money - they have just sold Paqueta and Vinicius for about 80-100 mln euro... and it makes me angry that they demand bunch of money for every new prospect, but are unwilling to pay decent money for their absolutely star player.

 

[brehme1989]

#InterBalls!

 

[diamen]

no "balls", I just don't see a reason to sell the player so cheaply. I don't like Barbosa, but as far I remember he costed us 30 mln euro, 3 years ago, he signed 5 year contract, so we have to sell him for above 12 mln euro to get capital gain. Selling him for just 15-16 mln euro would give us minimal plusvalenza.
Selling him for 25-30 mln is doable, so why would we sell him to Flamengo for "well below 22 mln euro"?

 

[.h.]

A star player is dictated by how much commercial value they can add to their new club. Someone like Real Madrid, Barca, PSG, etc, can easily afford 40/50mil per annum amortisation+contract fees for a player because, if that player substantially helps them getting further in the CL, brings more fans to the stadium, or brings lots of commercials, then it easily pays for it.

In Brazil, I assume the commercial angle is MUCH more limited - so the rate of return on the investment doesnt make sense to have very expensive players - this is why Man Utd, as Brehme? articulated a while ago quite well - dont really buy big players anymore tbh.

Those big players leaving are because of both ceiling and commercial potential.

Gabigol has failed in Europe twice, his 'upside' is far more limited than if he hadnt failed in Europe tbh.

 

[vasilios]

If they can't/won't spend the money then they can give us Reinier. Otherwise they can fuck off and Barbaso can be a San Siro janitor.

 

[Il Drago]

They're not even willing to give us an option on Reinier, let alone swap him with Barbosa.

 

[CafeCordoba]

We really should not let him stay there if Flamengo act like they own the player.

 

[DARi0]

Flamengo president, Rodolfo Landim, speaks to Fox Sports about the future of Gabriel Barbosa.

“Is he staying? I can say this: as it has been reported several times, Flamengo have been in contact with Inter for a while now. About three months ago, if I’m not mistaken, we reached a pre-agreement with Inter in relation to the player’s evaluation. Once that was done, we tried to speak to the player and his agent. At that moment, he told us that he would prefer to finalize everything at the end of the season. We didn’t see any issue with that because Gabriel just wanted to stay focused on the competitions to be played. We waited until Copa Liberatores and we won that, hopefully it happens again in the Club World Cup final. Then, we are ready to talk to him.”

I would rather take Barbosa back than sell him for "well below 22m". I have gut feeling that Flameno is already in touch with european clubs for selling Barbosa right away after his redemption.

Flamengo have money - they have just sold Paqueta and Vinicius for about 80-100 mln euro... and it makes me angry that they demand bunch of money for every new prospect, but are unwilling to pay decent money for their absolutely star player.

I totally agree with this approach, they are not poor and Barbosa is top goalscorer. Evaluations are usually adjusted according to latest developments. Would be utterly stupid to sell him cheaply.

 

[YoramG]

He was trash against Liverpool, who were not particularly good themselves. We're not getting any more than 20m for this guy.

 

[brehme1989]

I totally agree with this approach, they are not poor and Barbosa is top goalscorer. Evaluations are usually adjusted according to latest developments. Would be utterly stupid to sell him cheaply.

The only clause that I'm aware of was that we'd pay them a 5% of any transfer fee that was made done in the summer in case we decided to sell him then. Back then it was said that there's an 18m euro clause but it was merely a rumour apparently.

Either way, Flamengo has 8 days to complete this deal and I doubt either club is willing to discuss matters in the next couple of days due to holiday. So it's probably going to be yet another last minute deal and watch us get 18-20m at best. I'd still take it.

Anything over 18m + a 10% clause for a future sale (to any European club and perhaps a 15-20% clause if he's sold to another Italian club) would be a good enough deal for us. Their club record is 13m and it was done in the last 1-2 seasons along with another 12m deal. They should still be wealthy enough to go top of that but I'm not sure if they are willing to. Gerson was their most recent big one and it was barely 11m. Maybe we could be looking at a 15m deal here, maybe 25m. Who knows? There's the issue that the player may want to stay in Brazil or prove he can play at Inter [if we cannot reach a deal with Flamengo] even if we have shit teams like West Ham and Crystal Palace knocking on our doors flashing 30m offers.

 

[DARi0]

Inter are awaiting offers to arrive from the Premier League for striker Gabriel ‘Gabigol’ Barbosa

FCIN: As things stand, Inter have only received one offer for the 23-year-old striker, who will almost definitely be sold in the upcoming January transfer window. That offer has come from Brazilian side Flamengo, where Gabigol has spent the past year on loan.

As per the report, Flamengo have made an offer of €16 million to take 80% of Gabigol’s registration rights, an offer which currently puts them in pole position to land him.

Both West Ham United and Crystal Palace are reportedly interested in the five time Brazilian international but have yet to make offers.

 

[CafeCordoba]

So he would be valued at 20m€ in that deal, and we would have the asset still in our books with a reduced value (20% stake).

I so hope we can sell him to EPL with a direct sale without any staking bullshit. Those Flamengo bastards are cheap fucks, this guy has scored immense amount of goals for you in one year, and you're still asking for such a shitty deal? Get the FUCK OUT.

 

[K.I.]

So he would be valued at 20m€ in that deal, and we would have the asset still in our books with a reduced value (20% stake).

I so hope we can sell him to EPL with a direct sale without any staking bullshit. Those Flamengo bastards are cheap fucks, this guy has scored immense amount of goals for you in one year, and you're still asking for such a shitty deal? Get the FUCK OUT.

They are not swimming in money, in general players when sold from there don't come back a year or two later because a club overpaid for him and then never used him.

 

[crzdcolombian]

Was just named the best player in South America

Let’s not fk this up and get some money or use him in a trade for a good player. No way he is another coutinho. Tho if Liverpool ask for him tell the
To fk off!

 

[.h.]

See my point about player valuations...

 

[CafeCordoba]

So with this deal, we would get 16m€. Isn't that close to his book value at the moment so we wouldn't make even any plusvalenza, only get his amortized value for this year. I think the 20% stake would be structured as resale-%, so that if he's sold later by Flamengo, we get 20% of the fee.

I feel we're not handling this very well, we should aggressively promote him to those EPL clubs who have cash.

 

[.h.]

You might get an offer frmo a small to medium sized UK club, but it's gonna be on the sort of Cutrone/Puscas level. The price for a Brazilian who has failed twice in Europe is a LOT lower than the price of a 18-20 year old who hasn't failed.

 

[brehme1989]

And Gabriel Barbosa DOES NOT WANT TO go to such a club.

He belongs to Inter and plays for the champions of South America which he helped crown. There's no reason he'd accept to play for a shitty team when he's already in the top 10-20 level in his mind.

 

[vasilios]

Depends on how badly he wants to play in Europe.

 

[Pimpin]

like he gets a say, either watford or a bench at inter for 2 more years.