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Also there will always be more players who don't want to live in China compared to those who wouldn't mind.
 

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It definitely seems like the South American players are more into it than the European players so far.
 

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Is it less travelling or something
 

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I think it's partly because the gap between China and S America is smaller than the gap between China and Europe, so S Americans are not missing out on as much. Also a player in for example a Belgian player might have a higher chance of making it to a top European league than a S American due to visa issues, agent networks, life adjustment, etc. So a S American might feel more compelled to cut losses and make big money.
 

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Some players know they're not going to make it big, but can still make a lot of moolah.
 

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Oscar has thrown what could be a promising career away by going to China :palm:

Hopefully, for his sake, he returns to a top club in Europe. The guys a great player and only 25.
 

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Oscar has thrown what could be a promising career away by going to China :palm:

Hopefully, for his sake, he returns to a top club in Europe. The guys a great player and only 25.

He's so young he could go there for the full length of his contract and still come back to Europe or Brazil and play. The difference is he will be WAY richer than his teammates no matter where he goes. I'm sure that is a nice feeling.

If I was in his position would I make the same call? Probably not, I would have gone to Spain or Italy if I was him but who knows. Once that money is in your face and you are talking about potentially no one in your family ever having to work again it's hard to say no. You can go from rich to wealthy.
 

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From a financial point of view, I'd do the same.. But it's a shame to see a talent like him move to China so young. He can still finish his contract and come back to Europe but it will definitely hinder his development.
 

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Discussion time!
Who is right?!England's leagues where a loaned player can't play against their parent club or Italy's leagues who allow this occurrence?!

Go FeeeF,go!
 

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Discussion time!
Who is right?!England's leagues where a loaned player can't play against their parent club or Italy's leagues who allow this occurrence?!

Go FeeeF,go!

There's clearly some conflict of interest with loaned out players playing against their parent clubs.

I can see two possible extremes - they underperform on purpose, be it arranged by the parent club or on their own (including subconsciously); the other being a super hyped player out to prove their worth making his parent club's life miserable.

I see no problem with the latter, but the former certainly could be a real problem. Especially in a league like Serie A, which is notoriously known for rigged fixtures, doping, corruption and all kinds of shady shit.

After all, it's just stopping a player from participating in 2 games out of 38. Negligible.
 

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You mean like Iago Falque's hattrick against Roma(he was on loan from Roma to Toro at the time)
But then you have Frog who gifted us a goal last season while playing for Samp...

I think Italian way is more fair than English
Ok they have a right to do so if they are the wage payers...
But Wilshere couldn't feature for Bournemouth the other day against his parent club Arsenal... that doesn't seem right to me
 

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I prefer the English way, removes the complete element of any bias between the player and parent club.
 

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Greatest ever Italian football team? Mate of mine saying Milan 89-90.
 

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Greatest ever Italian football team? Mate of mine saying Milan 89-90.
Depends who you ask I guess, depending on age and preference. We might say it's Inter 2010 or the Herrera team.
 

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LA GRANDE INTER! or maybe LA GRANDE TORO...who knows we are too young to judge tbh.

From what I remember TRIPLETE INTER!maybe BBILAN in...nah

DEFINITELY NO RUBE MAFIA
 

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I prefer the English way, removes the complete element of any bias between the player and parent club.

The best chance for a player to prove himself is playing his own club. If he throws the game, he's shown nothing to his parent club (and he has to show something; if he was already good enough, in most cases he would not be loaned out). And it deprives a club of a player that they should be able to otherwise call upon. This is especially important for clubs that sign players through loans, because they are often financially less able to sign sufficient cover. Not allowing Wilshere to play against Bournemouth, or Courtois against Chelsea for Atletico several years ago, disadvantages the match-up even more. The Italian way makes more sense.
 

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Why Asian player cant catch up with high level football such as top level European league? its physic? Mentality? Basic skill? Discipline? Football IQ? Passport issues? or else? Comparing other continent there is only few player had notable career on high level..
 
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