Goran Pandev

[mournickio]

Inter youth product, yeah right. He played one season in Inter Primavera.

We want to get him on January, partly because Eto'o is out so Mourinho wants so insurance to attacking department, partly because we want to maintain good relationship with Lazio and Lotito. So we pay little sum to them so that we can get Pandev little earlier.

I'm content with this as long as Krhin isn't involved in the deal. Co-ownerships are also pretty stupid for Inter so we should avoid them. Pandev's value is not too high on January so we should be able to do the deal with cash + loans.

I think it would have been a good idea to give couple of millions plus the loan of Arnautovic till the end of the season. Of course,by january we need to assess whether we gonna actually buy him,if yes then his loan to lazio will be perfect for both.

 

[Handoyo]

I used to think that getting him is a bad deal, considering that he seems redundant.

But come to think about it, Arnautovic has gotten 0 minutes so far (Looks like Mou is not gonna accept a player forced on to him) and Balotelli has been very unstable. And considering how often Mou uses 4-3-3 and how freaking useless RQ and Mancini are PLUS his contract situation, I think getting Pandev would be huge for us. Besides, Milito isn't gonna be a starter for long and who knows, he can play the Cruz+Crespo role starting for next season or something.

 

[Lombardiamia]

I used to think that getting him is a bad deal, considering that he seems redundant.

But come to think about it, Arnautovic has gotten 0 minutes so far (Looks like Mou is not gonna accept a player forced on to him) and Balotelli has been very unstable. And considering how often Mou uses 4-3-3 and how freaking useless RQ and Mancini are PLUS his contract situation, I think getting Pandev would be huge for us. Besides, Milito isn't gonna be a starter for long and who knows, he can play the Cruz+Crespo role starting for next season or something.

Man, you really think Milito is worthy of such a low role? Right now he's been more fundamental than Eto'o and though he's not getting younger, surely at the age of 30-31, he's far from finished. He is actually surprising me, since he seems to be getting better each year.
Pandev would be a very good deal, considering the age, the value & wage of the guy. The fact that he was a primavera product is a bonus for our CL list too. Having said that, I really hope that Arnautovic gets a decent shot this year in order to prove himself. I would hate us to simply refuse the transfe by not giving him time to adapt & settle himself. He has long been considered one of the most promising youngsters in Europe..He needs time and patience, especially after such a long lay-off due to his first ever bad injury.

 

[Handoyo]

I know, I have no idea why I don't rate Milito that highly, despite his very encouraging performances this season. It's just that, it's very rare that a striker can still lead a major European club to glory after he hits 32-33.

wrt to Arnautovic, realistically speaking he has less that 10% chance of staying with Inter. His performances has been disappointing, Jose was against his arrival; nothing has pointed towards the scenario of him staying with us.

 

[Xoonky]

I know, I have no idea why I don't rate Milito that highly, despite his very encouraging performances this season. It's just that, it's very rare that a striker can still lead a major European club to glory after he hits 32-33.

Two words: Didier Drogba.

 

[Suneet]

How about a few more words, Andriy Shevchenko, Gabriel Batistuta, Christian Vieri, Hernan Crespo, Luca Toni......

 

[alvaro]

And how many of those names have led a major European club to glory as aged 32-33? Thats right, no-one.

 

[Xoonky]

And how many of those names have led a major European club to glory as aged 32-33? Thats right, no-one.

Didier Drogba - 2008
Filippo Inzaghi - 2007
Hernan Crespo - 2005
Derlei - 2004


That's just finalist strikers from the past 5 years of 30+, not to mention that CL is always the team hitting form on February, having a great team to back you up and most importantly being lucky to reach the finals, so yeah 30+ strikers can still do the job just as well, if they are of good material.

 

[CafeCordoba]

I know, I have no idea why I don't rate Milito that highly, despite his very encouraging performances this season. It's just that, it's very rare that a striker can still lead a major European club to glory after he hits 32-33.

wrt to Arnautovic, realistically speaking he has less that 10% chance of staying with Inter. His performances has been disappointing, Jose was against his arrival; nothing has pointed towards the scenario of him staying with us.

Yep. Milito indeed looks great at the moment. But people here can't see the big picture. His age shows more and more when he gets older. Generally strikers are behind their prime after 30-31. Players become more injury prone as they get older, when they get injured it takes longer times to recover etc. etc. It might be hard to thing that Milito actually might not be that great after year or two but that's the most possible scenario, you like it or not (not to you Han).

Xoonky your examples are not valid. Drogba is 31 now, he was 30 in the year 2008. Crespo was 31 when he was last time good at Inter (2006), Derlei wtf? There just have not been strikers who would have been leading players in their teams (big clubs) at the age of 32-33.

Injuries take their toll and Milito has already started his cycle with them at Inter, and he has been here couple of months.

Pandev can be good addition game-wise, but economically yet again big risk. It's rumored we're gonna offer him 3m€ per year. It would be okay, if we got rid of Suazo, Mancini and Quaresma for sure. But it ain't sure. Probably we still have to pay for them even if they're not at Inter after next summer.

 

[Xoonky]

Xoonky your examples are not valid. Drogba is 31 now, he was 30 in the year 2008. Crespo was 31 when he was last time good at Inter (2006), Derlei wtf? There just have not been strikers who would have been leading players in their teams (big clubs) at the age of 32-33.

Derlei was the goal poacher for Mourinho in his champions league triumph with Porto, and he was 31 years of age i think at the time.
Milito is not expected to be a LEADER, he is expected to do what he has done so far this season, and it has been PERFECT. I also think he will do that for at least 2 years, because he is very constant and professional.

 

[Lombardiamia]

I think no one denies the fact that a player gets worse with age, especially a forward like Milito who's main attribute is his movement into spaces. Having said that, he is 30 and I do expect him to keep this level for another 2 years before we can start to use him as a Cruz type of player. A club like Inter has to have more than 1 option and that is good, but let's not jump onto easy conclusions before we actually see a decline. He's been good and unless he proves me otherwise, I wont be complaining. He is giving Balotelli the chance to mature, cause he should be our future. If next year our forward line would be Eto'o, Milito, Balotelli, Pandev & Arnautovic, I'd be more than satisfied. We should deploy our energies on a quality midfielder and a younger CB next year, not a striker. With regards to Arna, I dont believe the media BS. Mourinho might not be 100% happy with the club getting him, but I believe that even other players were brought in without his full blessing. He wanted Carvalho, yet the club got him Lucio. He wanted Deco and the club got him Sneijder. He wanted to keep Ibra and the club sold him. Last year he wanted Lampard, but the club gave him Muntari. The fact that the club is inventing friendlies just to get Arna some playing time, gives me the idea that there is quite some confidence on the kid. And before we say that he had mediocre performances, shouldnt we at least wait till he is fully recovered and got some decent playing time? He's been out for some 5 months, new club, new country, new everything for a 20 year old. Apart from that, he is not a central striker and in the last friendly, he had to play as a striker with none other than Mancini & Quaresma on the wings. I believe that even the best Ibra would have struggled with that sort of aid...

 

[Handoyo]

How about a few more words, Andriy Shevchenko, Gabriel Batistuta, Christian Vieri, Hernan Crespo, Luca Toni......

Sorry but were you being sarcastic or serious and are backing up my point?

But anyways Suneet, whether you were sarcastic or serious, thanks for bringing up the names since I can do a little research to back up my points. These strikers' last good seasons:

1. Sheva: 05/06, was 29 at the start of the season
2. Batigol: 00/01, was 31 at the start of the season
3. Vieri: 02/03, was 29 at the start of the season
4. Crespo: 06/07, was 31 at the start of the season
5. Toni: 07/08, was 30 at the start of the season

See a trend going on here? Even legendary goal-scorers never performed world-class-ly beyond the age 32. But of course, strikers like Vieri or Cruz can still perfectly complete the duty as a 3rd choice striker. D.Milito can play the role that Crespo & Cruz did so perfectly well for us in the last 3 seasons but he's 30 now and by the latest, we need to get a world class replacement in the summer of 2011.

 

[Xoonky]

See a trend going on here? Even legendary goal-scorers never performed world-class-ly beyond the age 32. But of course, strikers like Vieri or Cruz can still perfectly complete the duty as a 3rd choice striker. D.Milito can play the role that Crespo & Cruz did so perfectly well for us in the last 3 seasons but he's 30 now and by the latest, we need to get a world class replacement in the summer of 2011.

Agreed.

 

[Suneet]

I was backing you up and your post basically closes the matter.

 

[shahz_nerazzurri]

Lets enjoy the current moment with Milito rather than looking at the big picture. If we wanna look at the big picture, than Pandev's face definetely does not need to be on it.

I dont mind Pandev, he is cheap, different from most of our strikers, hard worker, can run. He will be good as a third striker. But I just cant imagine Pandev as a long term Milito replacement. He is not a world beater, and is limited in his skills. He is already 26, cant really improve much.

We should get him though, even for this season. Suazo is crap, Arnautovic doesnt seem like doing anything, the less its said about Quaresma and Mancini, the better it is. With Eto gone for ACN, and Balotelli's mental stability a big question mark, getting Pandev doesnt seem so bad.

 

[Stefan]

Derlei was the goal poacher for Mourinho in his champions league triumph with Porto, and he was 31 years of age i think at the time.
Milito is not expected to be a LEADER, he is expected to do what he has done so far this season, and it has been PERFECT. I also think he will do that for at least 2 years, because he is very constant and professional.

Pretty sure it was Benni McCarthy who was mou's main striker for that triumph and not derlei.

 

[vassago]

Lets enjoy the current moment with Milito rather than looking at the big picture. If we wanna look at the big picture, than Pandev's face definetely does not need to be on it.

I dont mind Pandev, he is cheap, different from most of our strikers, hard worker, can run. He will be good as a third striker. But I just cant imagine Pandev as a long term Milito replacement. He is not a world beater, and is limited in his skills. He is already 26, cant really improve much.

Limited skills? hahaha...good one...maybe you should chek some youtube moments from pandev and talk..and for milito the guy is great whereever he played scoring loads of goals but talking like pandev wont manage in inter thats insane...he adapts great...just look at Macedonias performance whit and whitout him on the field...scored 2 more goals whit taht team BTW...but i guess he has no skills...just ask puyol about that and reina too...maybe you could find the juBe clip where he made the whole deffence wonder where he is at that time the "best" defense in the world

 

[shahz_nerazzurri]

Limited skills? hahaha...good one...maybe you should chek some youtube moments from pandev and talk..

:dielaugh:

Maybe you can make a youtube clip on pandev, and make him look better than C.Ronaldo, put in a nice song in the background as well. You will probably manage to get a few idiots on this froum to support your cause.

Jesus, looks like its time for dumb Macedonian fanboys.

Also if you can give me Puyol's number to ask about Pandev, that would be really awesome. :drunk:

 

[n4l]

wrt to Arnautovic, realistically speaking he has less that 10% chance of staying with Inter. His performances has been disappointing, Jose was against his arrival; nothing has pointed towards the scenario of him staying with us.

really?
how many games have YOU SEEN him play in?
i am going to venture out and say you saw HIGHLIGHTS of ONE game with the primavera

he's played 2 games (months apart) with sub-standard support players...
lmao



no wonder serie A is suffering....
the bar for success for a 20 year old is absurdly high




ps...just a thought
if zlatan complained that the 'support' was not good enough (and these were the Inter starters), you have to wonder how good the support is with the primavera squad....

 

[vassago]

:dielaugh:

Maybe you can make a youtube clip on pandev, and make him look better than C.Ronaldo, put in a nice song in the background as well. You will probably manage to get a few idiots on this froum to support your cause.

Jesus, looks like its time for dumb Macedonian fanboys.

i guess you feel proud of your self dont you..bravo..bravo...hahaha "nice" comeback...a bit short sided but didnt expect anythign more from you...
FORZA PANDEV!!! FORZA INTER!!!