Hernanes

[Wings]

hernanes is 30x better then guarin at attacking mid. So that alone is a huge improvement looking at how many times we used guarin in that position. He has a very nice goal scoring record for his position, which hopefully can get us out of our "non scoring ways".

But I remember Hernanes himself doesn't like AM, he prefers playing CM.

....

I don't understand, are we giving away all of Mbaye?

 

[CafeCordoba]

Yeah. This again proves that it's useless for us fans to drool over our youngsters. They will fucking NEVER get the chance. No matter how promising. They will always be shipped somewhere so that the first team can get immediate help. Specially now this feels so silly when our season is doomed already.

edit. Wings, according to latest, we are giving away all of M'Baye.

 

[JJM]

yes let's leave Mbaye at Livorno and Hernanes in Lazio and be happy with 9th place again!

 

[CafeCordoba]

Honestly 4th and 9th place to me are the same. 4th place brings EL next season which means more games and distraction for that 3rd spot hunt.

 

[Pimpin]

Not only we are getting an old inconsistent overrated player, but we are letting go of one of our most promising youngsters.

I'm not against including youngsters in deals but not for such useless deals!


I just died a little inside..

hernanes is overrated? what the fuck are you smoking bro?

he is the MOST UNDERRATED AM in Europe.


also Mbaye is a head case, I never saw browha praise him tbh .

i'd be against selling duncan and bardi, the others id be glad to sell their halfs.

 

[Pajo]

hernanes is overrated? what the fuck are you smoking bro?

he is the MOST UNDERRATED AM in Europe.

He has quality, but is too inconsistent, kinda like Guarin. Has more quality, but is also even more iconsistent. 29 years old, big wage, expensive... You get what i mean. AND we lose WHOLE of Mbaye for him. I dont mind fiving half, but whole? Too much.

 

[Pajo]

However, Mazzarri wants Hernanes and wants D'Ambrosio. We give him those two. If we don't get significantly better the second half of the season, he should be stabbed, hanged and thrown in the water. And no more complaints about the management not supporting him.

 

[shingayi]

1) Lotito wants more money (not 11-12 m, but 15)
2) Still missing ok from Mbaye and his entourage
3) Hernanes agent is now in Brasil and he ain't talked with Inter yet.

In conclusion: the deal is still far from being done.

 

[Wings]

yes let's leave Mbaye at Livorno and Hernanes in Lazio and be happy with 9th place again!

Hernanes could help push us up a couple spots, but is it worth giving away Mbaye (a player with great potential and already seeing plenty of playing time)? In the long term, I would say not. And even with Hernanes, I don't think we'll make it to 3rd.

 

[Jerry]

Honestly 4th and 9th place to me are the same. 4th place brings EL next season which means more games and distraction for that 3rd spot hunt.

1) I'll take all the money we can get, even if it's just 3-4 Million Euro from EL
2) The morale of the players, coaches, directors, and fans will be crushed by another 9th place finish, this will only create more protests, tension, and difficulties for the club
3) 3rd place is not yet out of reach.

Hernanes will definitely help us this season. I think that's a good thing, even if it hurts to see Mbaye go.

 

[jmaster]

no Primavera is ever going to be regular in the first team, so don't act like you know a talent when you see one. it's great we can use them in deals like this, since we don't have enough money to spend anyway

 

[Johnny Ludlow]

The price isn't the problem for me, I'm also not very concerned about us giving Mbaye away. It's just that we have loads of players capable of playing his position. Can't see him, Kovacic and Alvarez co-existing. Oh, and then there is Botta. Not to mention we still have Guarin...

 

[Linege]

Mazza wants Hernanes and D'Ambrosio or he will quit Inter

in the summer we will push for Lavezzi, ROFL, Thohihihihir


what a great team they are MM, Thohir, Branca and Mazzarri, ROFL

 

[Jnr]

Hernanes valuation of 18-20M is madness though. He will be 29 in may.

But anything over Guarin at this point. Dude is without any motivation to play for us ever again it seems.

 

[youth projector]

Signing hernanes. is good but including mbaye makes the deal somehow gaga, mbaye will help us a lot atm we are short in the wb position and he can play there so it does not make a good sense. Why not give them Laxalt and half of livaja? .

 

[CafeCordoba]

Yeah 18-20m€ valuation is madness indeed. The guy is in his prime years, but isn't exactly shining, in Serie A.

 

[Hasan]

Someone said that we're leading club day by day and that's the only true. 29 yrs old player represent nothing but wild card for Mazzari in next (last) two years of his contract.

What after 2 years?

- we will have 31-32 yrs old player without re-sale value in our books
- how he looks now we can assume that he will have weigth problems
- M'Baye could easiliy become 10-15 milion player in that period

Cerci is much much better solution for us and for that money he would be easy pick.

 

[Pajo]

But mASSarri wants him, not Cerci. He wanted him in Napoli too.

 

[pencilpal]

Hernanes is talented, no one is denying that.

But there are a number of things to consider:

1. Age: 29, meaning that he has practically zero resale value. Economically speaking, it'd be a terrible deal, not to mention a slap in the face of the so called youth project Thohir has been constantly mentioning since his arrival (especially with the departure of Mbaye)

2. Position: CM. He really isn't a number 10 or a natural AM, having been pushed up front by Reja in 2011. Hell, he's had 1 assist this season in the EL (with 0 in Serie A so far), 7 the season before (including the EL, only having 4 in Serie A), and 4 even before that (with 2 in Serie A, and another two in EL). His passing isn't great, but he does have a casual eye for a final ball or a shot on goal.

3. Inconsistency. Candreva, Klose, and Lulic are probably Lazio's best players (you could maybe even include Radu there), and I'd say that Biglia (despite his poor start to the season), Biava, Dias, Cavanda, and Radu have all been much better than Hernanes this season. Out of 81 shots on goal over the entire season so far, only 32 have made it on target, and from those 32, he's only netted 5 goals (including performances with the Brazil NT as well as with Lazio), which means 6% of his shots have found the back of the net, and 16% of his shots on target have found the back of the net.

He has the technical capability to be performing week in and week out, but he can't manage to put in a string of consistently strong performances, and has undoubtedly been one of Lazio's worst and most inconsistent players this season. I would honestly not be surprised if he initially makes a positive impact at Inter, but even in financial terms it'd be a mistake.

And Cerci would be a MUCH better option for the SS role. Technically capable, entering the prime of his career, and a natural SS/AM/RW.

 

[JJM]

IF ET is really getting Mazzarri Hernanes...you know what that means don't ya?!



:trolldad:




yep....Mazzarri is staying for the longer run! :troll: