Inter - Hellas Verona (26 Oct 13)

[Shaun]

My thoughts
I was impressed with the confidence our wingbacks have in attack and clearly this is Mazzarri's doing. It's really the most important aspect of our attacking game along with Palacio's immense movement (which basically allows us to play with only one striker). I was impressed with Cambiasso and his reading of the game. He's still a liability in certain situations, but in a game like today where the opposition played to his strengths, or at least away from his weaknesses he was fantastic.

Guarin started well, but ended horribly. Kovacic looks lost, but as someone said - he needs the ball at his feet and he didn't get that. I thought Ricky looked rusty. Rolando is doing better than I ever expected and was probably the best of our defenders when it comes to defending, but I thought our defense looked shaky as a whole, and I thought the entire side struggled as soon as we were pressed tightly. I'd be interested to see us against an EPL side as I don't think it'd be pretty. Belfodil looked incredibly frustrated and I think that's completely understandable. He got very little service once he came on, but Palacio works with very little service too, but his constant movements means he gets into good positions anyway.

Overall it's a hard game to judge. I think Verona defended very badly and completely forgot to mark our wingbacks for a good portion of the game and we made the most of that. I feel the lack of good ball that Palacio, and later that Belfodil received is a worry, and also telling as our attack does seem very one dimensional. However, a win is a win.

I really would like to see Mazzarri show some balls and play with two strikers. I don't think Kovacic can contribute much playing the position he did today while we're playing our overloading the wings strategy

 

[Devious]

Why was Toni`s goal disallowed?

 

[JJM]

Why was Toni`s goal disallowed?

No players over 2 metres allowed in the box?! :trollol:

 

[homaru]

Why was Toni`s goal disallowed?

Ranocchia was supposedly fouled, but I didn't see any contact and neither did the commentators.

 

[Devious]

I really would like to see Mazzarri show some balls and play with two strikers.

You say this line in almost every post poor Shaun

I agree though, my thoughts on Mazzarri`s reasons is he might just craving more defensive security than risking a player to just stand upfront besides Palacio waiting for the ball which would barely come. Instead he`s crowding the midfield to help in defense. we might score more goals having 2 FWs as we would get more chances, but we might as well conceed more goals. maybe he would start trying the 2 FWs again when Campa gets back. Im sure he tried it twice when we had a stronger defense than this aka Campa was playing.

 

[thoriq_r9]

Not a very comfortable win. We were decent in the attacking area, but once again showed some sloppy defending.
I don't think I've ever watched a football team scored all 4 ugly goals in a match like we did tonight though.

 

[interista4]

Why was Toni`s goal disallowed?

Fouled Rano.
Not impressed by the game but 3 points is always nice. Awful defense as always and those kind of goals we scored are less likely to happen vs. teams with proper defense. Would like to see Kova goes back to DLP he was pretty bad as AM didn't manage to do anything. And Ricky should be our AM, we have enough CMs & need more creativity closer to Palacio.

 

[interindo]

it is understandable if mazza worries about the defense, just look at the score line for the last two games

 

[Wallace]

Then he should learn and upgrade himself. 1 dimensional player will go nowhere in today's football. Alvarez was average when he first arrived but he learnt his way and grabbed his talents through it.

That's hilarious.

That's exactly like when Sneijder was asked to play CM by Gasperini, or when Guarin was asked to play AM. Yeah, Sneijder is really finding it difficult surviving modern day's football.

Not every player has and needs the versatility that Alvarez has. It is obviously an advantage for having that with Alvarez, but it isn't highly consequential.

Kovacic can already play CM or pivotal DM, and that's not versatile enough? What next? Playing him as CB?

I have been saying ever since he arrived, he isn't suited for the AM role due to his current lack of attributes, and is far more comfortable playing deep.

Last time I checked, the likes of Verratti, Busquets, Xavi don't get shifted around the midfield. It isn't that modern day football needs players to be versatile, it is simply Mazzarri who needs his players to be more well rounded.

Simply put, If Mazzarri does not need a deep lying playmaker, we might as well just sell him.

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[Ed.]

Carrizo: ZZzz... if Toni's disallowed goals were included, we conceded 4 stupid goals. He only made 1 save in the game.. When is Handa coming back?
Juan: has some good performances but loss focus here and there. Could have done better against Romulo's goal.
Ranocchia: lost Toni from his eyes couple time and didn't seem comfortable after Cambiasso off.
Rolando: fluke goal.. but who cares?? although NeonBlade won't celebrate.. defensively he didn't have much to do tbh and able to keep composure.
Jonathan: one of his good games. stayed focus. did what was necessary. ofc, that maicon's quality goal.
Guarin: some brainfarts but he wasn't bad tbh. He kept tracking the ball and moving up down left right. Some unfortunate circumstances.
Cambiasso: 2 corners lead to goals and he was the right man at the right time for the goal. After he was subbed off we suffered defensively a lot. His traffic-copping was great today overall.
Alvarez: played deeper than usual but his teamwork with Naga and Palacio is really good. They need someone to poach the ball tho. However, he disappeared late in the second half.
Nagatomo: Good attacking movements with Alvarez and Palacio, defensively he wasn't bad either. He deserved a goal tbh. denied 2x by the post.
Kovacic: a more advance role today but he still has a lot to learn how to be a good footballer not just a talented one. Lost possessions few times, mispassed few times. Physically he needs a bit more build up. He is not strong at all, when he got body checked, he fell. This reminds me of Alvarez and Alvarez ended missing a lot of games from injuries because of these fouls. So, Kovacic has a lot of homework.
Palacio: just a typical his average game.

Kuzmanovic: he is head-to-head with Pereira to leave the club. I would even choose him on top of Pereira to leave. useless defensively. Played as a DM but didn't cover the defense. There was a flat pass from left to mid just in front of him and he let it passed.. The second goal was also part of his poor positioning, he should have helped to cover that secondary attack. Cuchu would be in the box by that time. Kuzmanovic was walking back from midline. plis, just fuck off in january.
Taider: didn't have much to say
Belfodil: poor performance. a lot of poor passes with poor decision and fouls. I said it last week and I'll say it again, he needs to learn his first touch. One of them today cost us a counter attack and luckily didn't end up as a goal. That last chance he got and went retarded to go straight to the defender instead of shooting it at the very last second of game.. was just a poorly stupid decision.

Mazzarri: learnt his mistakes in Torino and didn't stupidly subbed in Wallace for Palacio.

 

[Devious]

Simply put, If Mazzarri does not need a deep lying playmaker, we might as well just sell him.

 

[Wobblz]

I want more.

Countdown to Atalanta - Inter: 02 Days, 22 Hours, 31 Minutes, 36

Good. :megusta:

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IMO after Cambiasso [Pirlo style passing FTW] left we were missing the anchor in the middle.

 

[Shaun]

I can see Belfodil's frustration at everything. He likes to have long through balls played to him. The only time that he got a decent ball was when Taider passed it to him and he could make his run. If I were Belfo, I would have gone to MAzzari and say, Either start me in matches like this, Tell Guarin to actually pass the fuking ball instead of taking idiotic, selfish shots all game wonce we are winning, or I am leaving come winter. He was Parma's star, and now can't even get the respect of his team to actually give him a god damn pass. No wonder he is so pissed at everything that he yells at the dude who barreled him over. It was his only play all game.

Search my posts and you'll see I'm one of Belfodil's biggest supporters around here, but I disagree. Belfodil has to just make the best of whatever he gets and keep calm. Palacio gets crap service game after game, but he finds a way to get involved through his movement. We don't play to Palacio's strengths, we don't play to Kovacic's strength, and we're not going to play to Belfodil's strengths either probably. Belfodil should work on becoming more of a threat from crosses by actually playing as a CF and that's clearly how we're playing right now

I will admit that I was completely frustrated by the lack of passes he received too as I'm dying to see him in our side as I feel he brings skills that none of other forwards have.

 

[Black&Blue]

Why was Toni`s goal disallowed?

it wasn't a disallowed goat though,the game was stopped before toni shot.

 

[Ed.]

That's hilarious.

That's exactly like when Sneijder was asked to play CM by Gasperini, or when Guarin was asked to play AM. Yeah, Sneijder is really finding it difficult surviving modern day's football.

Not every player has and needs the versatility that Alvarez has. It is obviously an advantage for having that with Alvarez, but it isn't highly consequential.

Kovacic can already play CM or pivotal DM, and that's not versatile enough? What next? Playing him as CB?

I have been saying ever since he arrived, he isn't suited for the AM role due to his current lack of attributes, and is far more comfortable playing deep.

Last time I checked, the likes of Verratti, Busquets, Xavi don't get shifted around the midfield. It isn't that modern day football needs players to be versatile, it is simply Mazzarri who needs his players to be more well rounded.

Simply put, If Mazzarri does not need a deep lying playmaker, we might as well just sell him.

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We know that Kovacic has the talent to play in 2-3 different roles. He doesn't need to be perfect in those but he should be capable of playing. Sneijder does play in more than 1 roles throughout his career but he refused to play. Busquets has too much talent in 1 position that he must be kept in that diving post, but I can see that Busquets has more than 1 role in Barcelona. So does Xavi. But, versatility isn't the problem for Kovacic. Kovacic has played in 2-3 different roles and his problem is not his position but his own game. The main thing about being a footballer is to be part of the game and for this reason Mazzarri doesn't need to sell him. The point is that keeping Kovacic in one position will not solve the problem because it is not the problem.

Football is not played according to player's best position but how the 11 players can communicate each other through their football. You can have 11 superstar in the expertise position, if they don't gel and understand how the system or tactic works, they would fail terribly.

So, yeah, it's hilarious.

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it is understandable if mazza worries about the defense, just look at the score line for the last two games

the last 3.

 

[Bzzlightyear]

All i hear is bla bla we play bad but still scored 4 goal, i dont care if the goals come out of nowhere, what i care is we scored 4 goals, and you cant say 4 goals are lucky scored, its called Determination and we had it this game, we stick to the plan we fought and we won the game, so what if we did conside 2 goals. What i care we have 3 point from todays match. I remember last year we lost this kind of games we suffered a lot, and i knew when we where 2-0 op that this game is won.

 

[Ed.]

If I were Belfo, I would have gone to MAzzari and say, Either start me in matches like this, Tell Guarin to actually pass the fuking ball instead of taking idiotic, selfish shots all game wonce we are winning, or I am leaving come winter.

He can leave if his performance was like today, had a lob pass coming then he kicked it back to Verona players in our third? Had 1 on 1 with defender in the box, decided to kiss the defender? hell yeah.. he can go fuck himself with that performance. He had shown some glimpse of brilliance but he is still not a star, could be for Parma but still not good enough for Inter.

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All i hear is bla bla we play bad but still scored 4 goal, i dont care if the goals come out of nowhere, what i care is we scored 4 goals, and you cant say 4 goals are lucky scored, its called Determination and we had it this game, we stick to the plan we fought and we won the game, so what if we did conside 2 goals. What i care we have 3 point from todays match. I remember last year we lost this kind of games we suffered a lot, and i knew when we where 2-0 op that this game is won.

nobody said we played bad I believe. but for obvious reason there are players need some criticism.

 

[Shaun]

He can leave if his performance was like today, had a lob pass coming then he kicked it back to Verona players in our third? Had 1 on 1 with defender in the box, decided to kiss the defender? hell yeah.. he can go fuck himself with that performance. He had shown some glimpse of brilliance but he is still not a star, could be for Parma but still not good enough for Inter.

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He was on during a time when Hellas were dominating. Also, it's hard to play as a lone striker. He's not cut out for it. Nor is Icardi, or even Milito. Palacio can do it because he runs all day and gets into fantastic positions which allows him to bring others into play. Belfodil was playing with his back to goal with no teammates around him while being marked by three opposition players.

nobody said we played bad I believe. but for obvious reason there are players need some criticism.

This. What's with people lately. Criticism is different from claiming someone is a bad player, or in this case claiming that we played badly.

 

[Bzzlightyear]

To be honest to much criticism IMO even when we won the game and we did well this game, the last 2 games we have shown great determination, if we didnt get a red card from last game right now we would have 20 points. I Really do believe that this year we will manage to do much better then the last 2 years and with decent reinforcment at Winter transfer, we will make it to CL

 

[Shaun]

Too much criticism? What is the right amount of criticism? What do you disagree with exactly?